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+The letter was actually written by wayne carson thompson, not by the box tops. if you go to the box tops wikipedia page, you will see that informatin on there as well. 155.212.97.18 21:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
This is a pop song that utilizes the techniqes of Music concrete, not an example of the genre. Tapered ( talk) 06:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
If there is a question regarding using an infobox for Joe Cocker's version of the song, there is no need to revert dozens of other copy edits that brought the article into compliance with various formally adopted WP:Manual of Style guidelines and policies. There remain several glaring problems with the article: large sections (including those with quotes) have no inline citations, the chart info is mostly unreferenced and the table doesn't follow the MOS:CHARTS guideline. The article has been tagged "This article needs additional citations for verification" for eight years. — Ojorojo ( talk) 13:54, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
There are 25+ unreferenced chart peak positions in the "History" section. These should be moved to the "Chart performance" section, if citations are added. The additional sentence after the charts (specifying number of weeks) is an unneeded detail and not given for the other charts (also unneeded in the History section). The "Joe Cocker cover" section contains a large blank white space and looks awkward. Until more is written about Cocker's version, the charts should not be formatted as two columns, which is causing the problem. The mention of the Mindbenders' cover in the History section should be moved to "Other cover versions" and the unreferenced trivia "the song appears as ...[3x]" should be removed. — Ojorojo ( talk) 17:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
@ Ojorojo:
... four-piece whose way with a sunny melody and a lovelorn lyric is enough to breathe life into the seemingly exhausted genre of guitar pop" The Times
The band are experts at crafting the kind of jangly, catchy guitar pop that have endeared them to fans of that genre," The Young Folks
a summery, lilting jam that perfectly straddles the line between fuzzy, lo-fi guitar pop and nostalgic doo-wop" DIY Mag
... I have a segment called “Indie Landfill”, where I rescue a song from the mid ‘00s guitar-pop scenePopMatters
Wikipedia does not decide what is a genre and what isn't based on whether the term has its own dedicated article. There are countless examples of the term guitar pop being used to refer to a specific category of music. -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 06:15, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
ILIL: The "also reached the top 10 in several other countries" chart positions are taken from Billboard's "Hits of the World" sections for the dates indicated. The November 4, 1967, issue on page 70 includes "THE LETTER" and "Box Tops" or "The Box Tops" under Britain: #6, France: #7, and Holland: #8; the one for November 18 p. 59 includes Malaysia: #10; and the rest should also check out as well. If it were done today, I'd use a different citation format, but the info is valid and verifiable. Rather than just re-add the sentence, maybe the section could be re-done to make it more reader friendly. Any ideas? — Ojorojo ( talk) 13:43, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Interesting example of an American use of 'aeroplane' (rather than airplane) in this song. Acorrector ( talk) 18:56, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello JGabbard: One of your recent additions was removed a couple of times before, one in 2018 with the summary "removed NZ Listener/Flavour of New Zealand: doesn't meet WP:CHART guidelines". [3] The guideline includes: "A chart is normally considered suitable for inclusion if it meets all of the following characteristics: ... 2. It covers sales or broadcast outlets from multiple sources." However, Listener does not cover either, but is based only on voting by its readers (subscribers?).
The Listener info page includes: [4]
Between 1961 and 1975, there were (to my knowledge) no sales-based music charts in New Zealand. In an attempt to depict what pop music was in vogue in NZ in the period 1966 to 1975, I have used the weekly music charts published in the NZ Listener. These weekly charts were compiled from voting coupons sent in by readers of the NZ Listener. Only Listener readers would vote. The charts underwent a few name changes during this decade, but were always published weekly in the Listener.
Since it doesn't meet the guideline criteria, it should be removed from the article. It should also be listed on WP:BADCHARTS "Deprecated charts" or "Websites to avoid" so others will be advised of its unsuitability.
— Ojorojo ( talk) 15:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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+The letter was actually written by wayne carson thompson, not by the box tops. if you go to the box tops wikipedia page, you will see that informatin on there as well. 155.212.97.18 21:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
This is a pop song that utilizes the techniqes of Music concrete, not an example of the genre. Tapered ( talk) 06:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
If there is a question regarding using an infobox for Joe Cocker's version of the song, there is no need to revert dozens of other copy edits that brought the article into compliance with various formally adopted WP:Manual of Style guidelines and policies. There remain several glaring problems with the article: large sections (including those with quotes) have no inline citations, the chart info is mostly unreferenced and the table doesn't follow the MOS:CHARTS guideline. The article has been tagged "This article needs additional citations for verification" for eight years. — Ojorojo ( talk) 13:54, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
There are 25+ unreferenced chart peak positions in the "History" section. These should be moved to the "Chart performance" section, if citations are added. The additional sentence after the charts (specifying number of weeks) is an unneeded detail and not given for the other charts (also unneeded in the History section). The "Joe Cocker cover" section contains a large blank white space and looks awkward. Until more is written about Cocker's version, the charts should not be formatted as two columns, which is causing the problem. The mention of the Mindbenders' cover in the History section should be moved to "Other cover versions" and the unreferenced trivia "the song appears as ...[3x]" should be removed. — Ojorojo ( talk) 17:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
@ Ojorojo:
... four-piece whose way with a sunny melody and a lovelorn lyric is enough to breathe life into the seemingly exhausted genre of guitar pop" The Times
The band are experts at crafting the kind of jangly, catchy guitar pop that have endeared them to fans of that genre," The Young Folks
a summery, lilting jam that perfectly straddles the line between fuzzy, lo-fi guitar pop and nostalgic doo-wop" DIY Mag
... I have a segment called “Indie Landfill”, where I rescue a song from the mid ‘00s guitar-pop scenePopMatters
Wikipedia does not decide what is a genre and what isn't based on whether the term has its own dedicated article. There are countless examples of the term guitar pop being used to refer to a specific category of music. -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 06:15, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
ILIL: The "also reached the top 10 in several other countries" chart positions are taken from Billboard's "Hits of the World" sections for the dates indicated. The November 4, 1967, issue on page 70 includes "THE LETTER" and "Box Tops" or "The Box Tops" under Britain: #6, France: #7, and Holland: #8; the one for November 18 p. 59 includes Malaysia: #10; and the rest should also check out as well. If it were done today, I'd use a different citation format, but the info is valid and verifiable. Rather than just re-add the sentence, maybe the section could be re-done to make it more reader friendly. Any ideas? — Ojorojo ( talk) 13:43, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Interesting example of an American use of 'aeroplane' (rather than airplane) in this song. Acorrector ( talk) 18:56, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello JGabbard: One of your recent additions was removed a couple of times before, one in 2018 with the summary "removed NZ Listener/Flavour of New Zealand: doesn't meet WP:CHART guidelines". [3] The guideline includes: "A chart is normally considered suitable for inclusion if it meets all of the following characteristics: ... 2. It covers sales or broadcast outlets from multiple sources." However, Listener does not cover either, but is based only on voting by its readers (subscribers?).
The Listener info page includes: [4]
Between 1961 and 1975, there were (to my knowledge) no sales-based music charts in New Zealand. In an attempt to depict what pop music was in vogue in NZ in the period 1966 to 1975, I have used the weekly music charts published in the NZ Listener. These weekly charts were compiled from voting coupons sent in by readers of the NZ Listener. Only Listener readers would vote. The charts underwent a few name changes during this decade, but were always published weekly in the Listener.
Since it doesn't meet the guideline criteria, it should be removed from the article. It should also be listed on WP:BADCHARTS "Deprecated charts" or "Websites to avoid" so others will be advised of its unsuitability.
— Ojorojo ( talk) 15:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)