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Ura Zelda has indeed been released - it is the Zelda Master Quest available on the Wind Waker bonus disc. - Kwekubo
Would a plot description/chronology be useful? Zarggg
Has anyone noticed how in most of the paired Zelda games on the same console (excluding the Oracle titles, which are directly connected), the second title is radically different in either story, placing or gameplay? Setokaiba 22:01, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
Are you sure Tolkienian legend was the inspiration for LoZ?(Could you then say that for any medieval fantasy story?) I saw in a Discovery channel interview that Shigeru Miyamoto was heavily inspired by his explorations as a boy in the forests surrounding his childhood home in Kyoto, he even mentions one of his inspirations, a beautiful lake he suddenly found in the middle of the woods, and which according to him, in one way or another is always present in the Zelda games. Kreachure 20:34, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Glad you're interested. As I see no opposition or more reliable sources than Miyamoto himself, I'll go ahead and make the changes I mentioned. Also, I noticed it's under Plot, which is a little bit awkward, as well as those japanese culture references, which are mainly unfounded, so for clarity's sake, I will remove them until somebody has enough interest to insert it properly again. Kreachure 23:33, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Too much information was stripped in these edits - there is a chronology that can be assembled from the Zelda developers' quotes and such. Andre ( talk) 01:31, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, this is the first time I'm using a talk page on wikipedia, and I like to join in on the chronology discussion. I personally think chronology is pretty unimportant for an article about the Zelda games because there seems to be a lack of it. To me, it seems more of a discussion that ultimately doesn't affect future games. I'm suggesting that "Chronology" be removed from the main page and into a seperate article. Another option would be moving chronology to a later part of the article. I consider the history of the Zelda series more important than possible chronologies. - Reyontoyeny
Considering, without hesistation, I would say I know the most about Zelda than any other person on earth, I removed stuff that was unfounded and based in questionable materials.
The purpose of Wiki is to give out fact, not fiction. We do not need ANY timeline theories here, the only point we should get across is:
1) There is some form of a timeline 2) It is a source of controversy 3) There are issues over what counts as canon
Getting into the details will just confused the average person. We simply need to focus on Miyamoto's quote that there is a master document for the timeline, Eiji Aonuma saying he will make the timeline "fixed", the argument of fans over what the timeline is, and whether or not there is only one, and finally, what sources should fans use when constructing the timeline.
As for the other stuff I edited - I fixed up dates and official credits to certain titles. I also went through the character entries and fixed some inaccuracies and wording. For example, Ganon is just the nickname of Ganondorf according to Miyamoto, the two names can be interchangeable.
The OoT entry had this crap about some Race War. That does not need to be in that entry. I changed it to be "The Fierce War", as called by the in-game text, and simply said it took place before OoT and the King unified the country, that's all.
There are others, but I'm not done yet. Some morons made a GANNON-BANNED entry, then it was merged with this, then they tried to make another one and the entry got locked...so I just made sure the one put here was accurate...but whatever, it's not important.
If you have any questions about edits or things that may need editing, IM me at SolidTSASnake. Whoever did the new Zelda and The Minish Cap entry, great job. I didn't find one thing wrong with them (when I checked).
Also, to that Ura Zelda question: The original Zeruda no Densetsu: The Hyrule Fantasy Famicom Disk has two sides, and ther 2nd side is called "Ura-Zelda". It's just the generic name for "Another Zelda". There were two 64 DD Zelda titles - Ura-Zelda which we got as Master Quest, and another one that never came out that had totally new dungeons, new overworld, etc. Some of it can still be access with the GameShark Beta codes for Ocarina of Time, such as the demolished Hyrule Field after a Tornado hits. - TSA) 04:46, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah - Some guy made the article, then he made the sub-section. I had to register this name cuz somebody was posing as me, so now this is me, no questions. Anyway, I found it odd, too, you could just turn over the famicom disk and play the 2nd Quest. It actually says "SIDE A" and "SIDE B" in English. The manual refers to SIDE B as "Ura Zelda".
As for Beta OoT...it would be awesome go get development notes from Late 1997-summer 1998 for Ocarina of Time. A lot of things could be revealed if such a resource were made avaiable. -- TSA 07:02, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I don't get why so many people think it is obscure. It is a common use at Zelda Universe, Zelda Legends, Ganon's Tower, Nintendo.com' Nsider Forums, GameFAQs, my own forum, and numerous other sites.
Some sites abhor it. Some fans abhor it. But it doesn't make it irrelevant. At the very least, it's a term used by NOA folks to talk about Zelda mistakes now. So I don't get how that is obscure. Go to IGN forums - some dude just made a new GANNON-BANNED thread. Seriously, more people know about it than don't. The only people who want it gone are 1) People I offended with it or 2) People who are jealous.
If you think it should go cuz you're "elitist" or something, ha. You don't get much more elitist in Zelda than me, so take a seat. And yes, I meant to be rude to the person who edited out my stuff. Vote all you want, NOA will send an e-mail to Wiki admins to perma-keep the article if you keep erasing it.
Thanks
(NOTE: This interview has since been revealed to have been mistranslated. Nintendo of America, Inc no longer endorses the quote and Shigeru Miyamoto says it is not the timeline nor was this the timeline he meant to convey)
Does anyone have a source for this? I sent it in to the www.zeldalegends.com mailbag and got two responses that pretty much anything can be on Wikipedia. I figured that if TSA watches this page he wouldn't leave anything false here, and I'd love to know that this is true because it fits ever so well into a logical Zelda timeline (>_<).
We already went through this with the chronology section. While we must agree to disagree, this is no place for fan theories. We all know there are multiple Links, until proven which is the right explanation, we don't care about people's theories here at Wiki. I removed those theories because it is confusing and it has no place here - go to a Zelda Forum on a site.
The only thing in this section should be info on Link's nature, like his characteristics, why he doesn't speak, and why Miyamoto named him Link - which is what I did in the edit.
I also fixed up some of history stuff, it was a little rigid and some stuf was outdated (We don't need to know Twilight Princess was unveiled at E3 2004 anymore...what is important is it comes out in November and it has a title and what we know so far about the gameplay and the development.
I added a bit about Hot Topic in the pop culture, since the SoaD thing is a bit off the radar.
I also added a holder for the Comics/Manga/Doujinshi. I don't have time now to write it all up, but it should be mentioned on this page, not its own (it has its own page now). ~ TSA, July 1, 2005
Dude, it's totally ridiculous. It's only a private joke, as said here. I've been a Zelda fan for years and never ever heard about this thing. I'm not removing it again since I know someone's gonna rv it, but someone's gotta do something on that. A private joke doesn't add any info at all, and I can't see how that could ever be useful in an encyclopedia. There are so many facts about the game, what's with this Gannon-Banned guy who wants to promote his own site/forum/whatever? - Imperator 01:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious when the person doesn't sign with a digital signature that it's not the person they claim to be. I personally do not care if G-B stays on the Zelda entry. I thought it should have its own small page and not cramp the Zelda page. I also, personally, think the majority of the Chronology section is point less. Having quotes and stuff is going to confuse more people, just simplify it to there is a timeline, we don't know what it is, stay tuned, though some fans still live in denial and believe they control the timeline themselves (people who say no timeline exists).
As for most of the pages, I spent about 20 hours on Wiki 3 weeks ago fixing up a lot of stuff, and I used the Japanese games/manuals to correct everything. I actually personally ran some stuff by some NOAs to make sure it was acceptable, and it got the nod. Zelda.com's Encyclopedia should also be updated SOMETIME as I totally redid all the entries for them to be accurate.
Anyway, back to G-B, I thought it was funny somebody made an article for me, but now its getting me in trouble, so I'd rather it just end. Leave it or delete it...but let it be final. I don't need GANNON-BANNED to be my legacy or something, when all it was, to me, was a short fad and now just a historical piece for those who cared about it. I don't even use it anymore. I only care about being known as a fan who tried to further truth in the community, as well as tried to promote the Legend of Zelda name to expand its popularity, through my site, speed runs and other stuff.
Anyway, if I ever find out who really tried to post as me, I'll deal with them. -- TSA 20:51, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The Legend of Zelda doesn't fit the standard role-playing game genre. I'd consider it more of an action-adventure game. It's missing the crucial character creation aspect (in all the Zelda games I've played, at least). Thoughts? -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 11:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
THe legend of zelda is not and RPG, because RPG's include level gaining. - Abhorsen123 00:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
One could go on and on about the individual RPG elements that Zelda does or does not have, but that is not how you classify art into a genre. Genre classification is a matter of subtle nuances like what previous works influenced the work in question, what its most comparable works are classified as, etc. You normally cannot include or exclude a work to a genre based on just one characteristic. There is a lot of "gray area," but the idea is that you are striving for a best-fit classification. In other words, simply "having RPG elements" does not make a game an RPG; but when RPG elements are the dominant characteristics of the game, above and beyond any other non-RPG characteristics, then it is an RPG. Since Zelda is the absolute archetype of an action/adventure game, and its action/adventure elements are the dominant characteristics of the game above and beyond any RPG elements, it seems that calling it an RPG simply because it also has some of those elements is rather misleading and defeats the point of genre classification to begin with. Nintendo's "Adventure Series" began with Zelda, IIRC, so again, trying to call it an RPG is clear case of missing the forest for the trees. Genre classification is about the overall focus or theme of gameplay mechanics, not any one specific detail. -- The Yar 06:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Another suggestion: move The Legend of Zelda series to The Legend of Zelda, and move The Legend of Zelda to The Legend of Zelda (game) (edit: maybe (1986 game)). I think the series overview would be what most users expect when they type in "The Legend of Zelda". -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 00:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Could someone provide a reference for this paragraph?
I can't find anything on Google relating this particular experience of his. This biography [8] tells of his discovery of a cave, and that's all I've been able to dig up. -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 10:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to give this a week or so before replacing it with the cave story. -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 14:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the GANNON-BANNED section to the Camp Hyrule article. I realise this was perhaps a little too bold with the current wars over it, but I hope everyone finds it to be an acceptable compromise. -- Deco 23:35, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Altough it has been confirmed a DS Zelda Four Swords is in development, apparently it has also been confirmed that a non-Four Swords DS Zelda game is in development. Also, Nintendo have said that Capcom are not developing it like games like the Minish Cap, and it is being developed by Nintendo itself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zooba ( talk • contribs) 09:00, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
I'm very sorry, Nintendo is not inclined toward making Zelda games for the Nintendo DS, because the Nintendo DS does not have enough buttons in order to use three items equipped. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.119.56.136 ( talk • contribs) 21:46, November 25, 2005 (UTC)
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is the name of the new Zelda game for DS. It will be released in 2006! This info is from the GDC. -- Michael Ray 19:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Anyone remember when you fight the Nightmares at the very end of Links Awakening? The final Nightmare, Dethl, bears a resemblence to Vaati. If this takes place after Four Swords, then it is possible that this is a shadow of Vaati or that Vaati wanders the realm of dreams, haunting Link and his descendents for all time. Of course, he would have been defeated at the end of Link's Awakening, so he wouldn't be haunting the future generation of Links. But then again...What happened to the Wind Fish after Link's Awakening?
I justed merged content from Multiple Links Theory as a result of the VfD there. -- Death phoenix 17:48, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Am I correct in believing that we can all agree that the majority of the external links for this article are fansites? I would hope so. Is it fair, though, that only large, "super-sites" can get links in the external links sections? Sure, you would say that you have to put a hold on the number eventually, but I never saw the list grow too large. In my opinion, either everyone should have a chance for a link, or no one. However, you may say that the article links to the best/most helpful fansites on the Web. Suprisingly enough, the largest sites aren't always the best, and hits don't mean everything. Just some thoughts... (Ah, and one last thing. Even if the majority of the sites on the list are some of the best, "Zelda Elements" is on there, which hasn't been active in a long time! I can hardly see that site as being wonderfully useful!) ~ Akira~ 12 June 2005
I was reading this article, and found a mistake. The thing about the System of a Down song is that it's not by them. The song was used in a flash animation by Legendary Frog, and is apparently by The Rabbit Joint. For some reason a lot of people file share this song as a SoaD song, but you can check on Legendary Frog's website and the SoaD website, at least their message board. Just thought I'd point this out.
Two tidbits:
I'll put these two by tomorrow if there are no objections.
As part of the present proposal to expand the criteria for speedy deletion, it has been suggested that all RPG characters that do not have a basis for existence in a book or other offline medium should be deleted. I suspect this was well-intentioned effort but seems unreasonably broad. Since this would seem to call for the elimination of all or nearly all articles in Legend of Zelda characters, I figure that this community needs to be made aware of the impact of this proposal. Voting is also up for this proposal.
See: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/7. -- ZeWrestler 03:22, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
It's probably just me, but I think the image at the beginning of the article looks a bit... well, old. Maybe it could be the logo of the most recent Zelda game released, and each time a new one is released, the image could be updated? Link 05:28, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
This should be removed from all articles. It is factually inaccurate, and created pointless debates with its poor translations (like the Miyamoto interview) and the terrible timeline. I'm going to take the liberty of removing crap from the Zelda articles right now. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:15, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
When did the chronology section become so bloated? I know there's a lot to cover, but a lot of it is speculation, and a lot of it is rehashing plot points described elsewhere. I propose that we move the bulk of the section to a new article, say, The Legend of Zelda (timeline), and provide a short summary of the issues here (there is a timeline, we don't know exactly what the timeline is although there are clues, it has been promised that the timeline will be cleared up). The new article could also present a sample timeline (the ZHQ timeline being the most well known amongst fans, if I'm not mistaken)... or two sample timelines, to show how they differ and exemplify the controversy.
I won't make such a major change without first seeing what you guys think. So, what do you think? Fieari 20:39, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
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Ura Zelda has indeed been released - it is the Zelda Master Quest available on the Wind Waker bonus disc. - Kwekubo
Would a plot description/chronology be useful? Zarggg
Has anyone noticed how in most of the paired Zelda games on the same console (excluding the Oracle titles, which are directly connected), the second title is radically different in either story, placing or gameplay? Setokaiba 22:01, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
Are you sure Tolkienian legend was the inspiration for LoZ?(Could you then say that for any medieval fantasy story?) I saw in a Discovery channel interview that Shigeru Miyamoto was heavily inspired by his explorations as a boy in the forests surrounding his childhood home in Kyoto, he even mentions one of his inspirations, a beautiful lake he suddenly found in the middle of the woods, and which according to him, in one way or another is always present in the Zelda games. Kreachure 20:34, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Glad you're interested. As I see no opposition or more reliable sources than Miyamoto himself, I'll go ahead and make the changes I mentioned. Also, I noticed it's under Plot, which is a little bit awkward, as well as those japanese culture references, which are mainly unfounded, so for clarity's sake, I will remove them until somebody has enough interest to insert it properly again. Kreachure 23:33, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Too much information was stripped in these edits - there is a chronology that can be assembled from the Zelda developers' quotes and such. Andre ( talk) 01:31, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
Hey, this is the first time I'm using a talk page on wikipedia, and I like to join in on the chronology discussion. I personally think chronology is pretty unimportant for an article about the Zelda games because there seems to be a lack of it. To me, it seems more of a discussion that ultimately doesn't affect future games. I'm suggesting that "Chronology" be removed from the main page and into a seperate article. Another option would be moving chronology to a later part of the article. I consider the history of the Zelda series more important than possible chronologies. - Reyontoyeny
Considering, without hesistation, I would say I know the most about Zelda than any other person on earth, I removed stuff that was unfounded and based in questionable materials.
The purpose of Wiki is to give out fact, not fiction. We do not need ANY timeline theories here, the only point we should get across is:
1) There is some form of a timeline 2) It is a source of controversy 3) There are issues over what counts as canon
Getting into the details will just confused the average person. We simply need to focus on Miyamoto's quote that there is a master document for the timeline, Eiji Aonuma saying he will make the timeline "fixed", the argument of fans over what the timeline is, and whether or not there is only one, and finally, what sources should fans use when constructing the timeline.
As for the other stuff I edited - I fixed up dates and official credits to certain titles. I also went through the character entries and fixed some inaccuracies and wording. For example, Ganon is just the nickname of Ganondorf according to Miyamoto, the two names can be interchangeable.
The OoT entry had this crap about some Race War. That does not need to be in that entry. I changed it to be "The Fierce War", as called by the in-game text, and simply said it took place before OoT and the King unified the country, that's all.
There are others, but I'm not done yet. Some morons made a GANNON-BANNED entry, then it was merged with this, then they tried to make another one and the entry got locked...so I just made sure the one put here was accurate...but whatever, it's not important.
If you have any questions about edits or things that may need editing, IM me at SolidTSASnake. Whoever did the new Zelda and The Minish Cap entry, great job. I didn't find one thing wrong with them (when I checked).
Also, to that Ura Zelda question: The original Zeruda no Densetsu: The Hyrule Fantasy Famicom Disk has two sides, and ther 2nd side is called "Ura-Zelda". It's just the generic name for "Another Zelda". There were two 64 DD Zelda titles - Ura-Zelda which we got as Master Quest, and another one that never came out that had totally new dungeons, new overworld, etc. Some of it can still be access with the GameShark Beta codes for Ocarina of Time, such as the demolished Hyrule Field after a Tornado hits. - TSA) 04:46, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah - Some guy made the article, then he made the sub-section. I had to register this name cuz somebody was posing as me, so now this is me, no questions. Anyway, I found it odd, too, you could just turn over the famicom disk and play the 2nd Quest. It actually says "SIDE A" and "SIDE B" in English. The manual refers to SIDE B as "Ura Zelda".
As for Beta OoT...it would be awesome go get development notes from Late 1997-summer 1998 for Ocarina of Time. A lot of things could be revealed if such a resource were made avaiable. -- TSA 07:02, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I don't get why so many people think it is obscure. It is a common use at Zelda Universe, Zelda Legends, Ganon's Tower, Nintendo.com' Nsider Forums, GameFAQs, my own forum, and numerous other sites.
Some sites abhor it. Some fans abhor it. But it doesn't make it irrelevant. At the very least, it's a term used by NOA folks to talk about Zelda mistakes now. So I don't get how that is obscure. Go to IGN forums - some dude just made a new GANNON-BANNED thread. Seriously, more people know about it than don't. The only people who want it gone are 1) People I offended with it or 2) People who are jealous.
If you think it should go cuz you're "elitist" or something, ha. You don't get much more elitist in Zelda than me, so take a seat. And yes, I meant to be rude to the person who edited out my stuff. Vote all you want, NOA will send an e-mail to Wiki admins to perma-keep the article if you keep erasing it.
Thanks
(NOTE: This interview has since been revealed to have been mistranslated. Nintendo of America, Inc no longer endorses the quote and Shigeru Miyamoto says it is not the timeline nor was this the timeline he meant to convey)
Does anyone have a source for this? I sent it in to the www.zeldalegends.com mailbag and got two responses that pretty much anything can be on Wikipedia. I figured that if TSA watches this page he wouldn't leave anything false here, and I'd love to know that this is true because it fits ever so well into a logical Zelda timeline (>_<).
We already went through this with the chronology section. While we must agree to disagree, this is no place for fan theories. We all know there are multiple Links, until proven which is the right explanation, we don't care about people's theories here at Wiki. I removed those theories because it is confusing and it has no place here - go to a Zelda Forum on a site.
The only thing in this section should be info on Link's nature, like his characteristics, why he doesn't speak, and why Miyamoto named him Link - which is what I did in the edit.
I also fixed up some of history stuff, it was a little rigid and some stuf was outdated (We don't need to know Twilight Princess was unveiled at E3 2004 anymore...what is important is it comes out in November and it has a title and what we know so far about the gameplay and the development.
I added a bit about Hot Topic in the pop culture, since the SoaD thing is a bit off the radar.
I also added a holder for the Comics/Manga/Doujinshi. I don't have time now to write it all up, but it should be mentioned on this page, not its own (it has its own page now). ~ TSA, July 1, 2005
Dude, it's totally ridiculous. It's only a private joke, as said here. I've been a Zelda fan for years and never ever heard about this thing. I'm not removing it again since I know someone's gonna rv it, but someone's gotta do something on that. A private joke doesn't add any info at all, and I can't see how that could ever be useful in an encyclopedia. There are so many facts about the game, what's with this Gannon-Banned guy who wants to promote his own site/forum/whatever? - Imperator 01:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious when the person doesn't sign with a digital signature that it's not the person they claim to be. I personally do not care if G-B stays on the Zelda entry. I thought it should have its own small page and not cramp the Zelda page. I also, personally, think the majority of the Chronology section is point less. Having quotes and stuff is going to confuse more people, just simplify it to there is a timeline, we don't know what it is, stay tuned, though some fans still live in denial and believe they control the timeline themselves (people who say no timeline exists).
As for most of the pages, I spent about 20 hours on Wiki 3 weeks ago fixing up a lot of stuff, and I used the Japanese games/manuals to correct everything. I actually personally ran some stuff by some NOAs to make sure it was acceptable, and it got the nod. Zelda.com's Encyclopedia should also be updated SOMETIME as I totally redid all the entries for them to be accurate.
Anyway, back to G-B, I thought it was funny somebody made an article for me, but now its getting me in trouble, so I'd rather it just end. Leave it or delete it...but let it be final. I don't need GANNON-BANNED to be my legacy or something, when all it was, to me, was a short fad and now just a historical piece for those who cared about it. I don't even use it anymore. I only care about being known as a fan who tried to further truth in the community, as well as tried to promote the Legend of Zelda name to expand its popularity, through my site, speed runs and other stuff.
Anyway, if I ever find out who really tried to post as me, I'll deal with them. -- TSA 20:51, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The Legend of Zelda doesn't fit the standard role-playing game genre. I'd consider it more of an action-adventure game. It's missing the crucial character creation aspect (in all the Zelda games I've played, at least). Thoughts? -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 11:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
THe legend of zelda is not and RPG, because RPG's include level gaining. - Abhorsen123 00:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
One could go on and on about the individual RPG elements that Zelda does or does not have, but that is not how you classify art into a genre. Genre classification is a matter of subtle nuances like what previous works influenced the work in question, what its most comparable works are classified as, etc. You normally cannot include or exclude a work to a genre based on just one characteristic. There is a lot of "gray area," but the idea is that you are striving for a best-fit classification. In other words, simply "having RPG elements" does not make a game an RPG; but when RPG elements are the dominant characteristics of the game, above and beyond any other non-RPG characteristics, then it is an RPG. Since Zelda is the absolute archetype of an action/adventure game, and its action/adventure elements are the dominant characteristics of the game above and beyond any RPG elements, it seems that calling it an RPG simply because it also has some of those elements is rather misleading and defeats the point of genre classification to begin with. Nintendo's "Adventure Series" began with Zelda, IIRC, so again, trying to call it an RPG is clear case of missing the forest for the trees. Genre classification is about the overall focus or theme of gameplay mechanics, not any one specific detail. -- The Yar 06:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Another suggestion: move The Legend of Zelda series to The Legend of Zelda, and move The Legend of Zelda to The Legend of Zelda (game) (edit: maybe (1986 game)). I think the series overview would be what most users expect when they type in "The Legend of Zelda". -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 00:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Could someone provide a reference for this paragraph?
I can't find anything on Google relating this particular experience of his. This biography [8] tells of his discovery of a cave, and that's all I've been able to dig up. -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 10:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to give this a week or so before replacing it with the cave story. -- Poiuyt Man ( talk) 14:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the GANNON-BANNED section to the Camp Hyrule article. I realise this was perhaps a little too bold with the current wars over it, but I hope everyone finds it to be an acceptable compromise. -- Deco 23:35, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Altough it has been confirmed a DS Zelda Four Swords is in development, apparently it has also been confirmed that a non-Four Swords DS Zelda game is in development. Also, Nintendo have said that Capcom are not developing it like games like the Minish Cap, and it is being developed by Nintendo itself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zooba ( talk • contribs) 09:00, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
I'm very sorry, Nintendo is not inclined toward making Zelda games for the Nintendo DS, because the Nintendo DS does not have enough buttons in order to use three items equipped. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.119.56.136 ( talk • contribs) 21:46, November 25, 2005 (UTC)
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is the name of the new Zelda game for DS. It will be released in 2006! This info is from the GDC. -- Michael Ray 19:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Anyone remember when you fight the Nightmares at the very end of Links Awakening? The final Nightmare, Dethl, bears a resemblence to Vaati. If this takes place after Four Swords, then it is possible that this is a shadow of Vaati or that Vaati wanders the realm of dreams, haunting Link and his descendents for all time. Of course, he would have been defeated at the end of Link's Awakening, so he wouldn't be haunting the future generation of Links. But then again...What happened to the Wind Fish after Link's Awakening?
I justed merged content from Multiple Links Theory as a result of the VfD there. -- Death phoenix 17:48, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Am I correct in believing that we can all agree that the majority of the external links for this article are fansites? I would hope so. Is it fair, though, that only large, "super-sites" can get links in the external links sections? Sure, you would say that you have to put a hold on the number eventually, but I never saw the list grow too large. In my opinion, either everyone should have a chance for a link, or no one. However, you may say that the article links to the best/most helpful fansites on the Web. Suprisingly enough, the largest sites aren't always the best, and hits don't mean everything. Just some thoughts... (Ah, and one last thing. Even if the majority of the sites on the list are some of the best, "Zelda Elements" is on there, which hasn't been active in a long time! I can hardly see that site as being wonderfully useful!) ~ Akira~ 12 June 2005
I was reading this article, and found a mistake. The thing about the System of a Down song is that it's not by them. The song was used in a flash animation by Legendary Frog, and is apparently by The Rabbit Joint. For some reason a lot of people file share this song as a SoaD song, but you can check on Legendary Frog's website and the SoaD website, at least their message board. Just thought I'd point this out.
Two tidbits:
I'll put these two by tomorrow if there are no objections.
As part of the present proposal to expand the criteria for speedy deletion, it has been suggested that all RPG characters that do not have a basis for existence in a book or other offline medium should be deleted. I suspect this was well-intentioned effort but seems unreasonably broad. Since this would seem to call for the elimination of all or nearly all articles in Legend of Zelda characters, I figure that this community needs to be made aware of the impact of this proposal. Voting is also up for this proposal.
See: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/7. -- ZeWrestler 03:22, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
It's probably just me, but I think the image at the beginning of the article looks a bit... well, old. Maybe it could be the logo of the most recent Zelda game released, and each time a new one is released, the image could be updated? Link 05:28, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
This should be removed from all articles. It is factually inaccurate, and created pointless debates with its poor translations (like the Miyamoto interview) and the terrible timeline. I'm going to take the liberty of removing crap from the Zelda articles right now. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:15, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
When did the chronology section become so bloated? I know there's a lot to cover, but a lot of it is speculation, and a lot of it is rehashing plot points described elsewhere. I propose that we move the bulk of the section to a new article, say, The Legend of Zelda (timeline), and provide a short summary of the issues here (there is a timeline, we don't know exactly what the timeline is although there are clues, it has been promised that the timeline will be cleared up). The new article could also present a sample timeline (the ZHQ timeline being the most well known amongst fans, if I'm not mistaken)... or two sample timelines, to show how they differ and exemplify the controversy.
I won't make such a major change without first seeing what you guys think. So, what do you think? Fieari 20:39, September 9, 2005 (UTC)