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I have re-created the disambiguation page and references to "The Hitchers" from Teesside, as there is a significant potential for confusion as the Teeside Hitchers have an album for sale on Amazon, and are releasing another album in January. Cpmartin 12:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
If The Hitchers (band from Teesside) is to be deleted, then this page should be deleted too, as this band does not count as noteworthy as it does not have "multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble". If The Hitchers (band from Teesside) is deleted, I will move to have this page deleted as well, as the two bands are no less noteworthy than each other. Cpmartin 10:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Please do not delete this article. There appears to be some confusion with this band (from Ireland and in existence since 1989) and a band in the UK who are illegally operating under the same name; ‘The Hitchers’. I have added more release information and a link to the BBC John Peel Hitchers page and an NME review to help assuage any doubt as to the bone fides of the band. Airwave 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
As you removed the PROD tag, this counts as contesting the deletion. I have therefore added an AFD tag. Let's see what happens next. Cpmartin 16:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
This page looks like it was written by a band member, and there are no verifiable links to back-up any of the statements in the "History" section. The end of this section is practically a gig list, and the last statement is a rumour generator placed by a band member to try and generate excitement. Simple mentions of "fantastic reviews" that are not backed-up cannot count as verifiable unless someone can show otherwise. This also goes for the "Limerick Event Guide" that is quoted, which could easily have been written by the band themselves, and cannot count as verifiable. Cpmartin 10:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree, some of the language and entries are rather 'fluffy', I will edit the less encyclopedic statements and make them 'drier'. I am not a member of this band. Airwave 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I have worked with this band, amongst others, over the years as a sound engineer in Xeric studios, Limerick. The name, 'The Hitchers', is copyright and is a trademark like in any other business. Whether or not the facts represented in the article can be considered vain or not is of no consequence, as they are simply facts. My intention with this article was to recount the exploits of what I consider to be a noteworthy band. With respect, please do not make this a personal issue. I do not assume to know you and I regard being accused a liar as rather offensive. Airwave 15:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I would like to know why are you attacking this article (and me) in such an agressive manner. I know of nothing that I have done to personally offend you and warrant this behaviour. Airwave 17:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. The only reason offered for opposing is potential confusion with the Rutger Hauer movie, but the dab notice at the top of the page should be sufficient, and at least not any worse than the previous status quo, in which The Hitchers was already a redirect to the band page. - GTBacchus( talk) 10:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
The Hitchers (band from Limerick) → The Hitchers — This page ( The Hitchers) originally contained the article now at The Hitchers (band from Limerick). Another article was created, "The Hitchers (band from Teeside)", and "The Hitchers" changed to a disambig between the two. The Teeside band article was successfully prodded, and the Limerick band article survived an AfD. The information on the Teeside band has been merged with the Limerick band article. I think that it would be more sensible to rename the only current article ("band from Limerick") back to "The Hitchers", but we need to retain the edit history, and we can't do a move while the redirect exists. As I see it, the ideal state of things will be to have the article at The Hitchers with the edit history that's now at "band from Limerick", with "band from Limerick" and perhaps "band from Teeside" as redirects. Tevildo 03:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
In my newspaper listing on upcoming movies they have the movie (mistakenly) listed as The Hitchers--and this is a major metropolitan newspaper with a copy edit staff. There is going to be confusion between the singular/plural usage. The movie series is way more notable then the band so you are going to have more people searching for it. The band should some disambiguation to it. 205.157.110.11 02:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
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I have re-created the disambiguation page and references to "The Hitchers" from Teesside, as there is a significant potential for confusion as the Teeside Hitchers have an album for sale on Amazon, and are releasing another album in January. Cpmartin 12:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
If The Hitchers (band from Teesside) is to be deleted, then this page should be deleted too, as this band does not count as noteworthy as it does not have "multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble". If The Hitchers (band from Teesside) is deleted, I will move to have this page deleted as well, as the two bands are no less noteworthy than each other. Cpmartin 10:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Please do not delete this article. There appears to be some confusion with this band (from Ireland and in existence since 1989) and a band in the UK who are illegally operating under the same name; ‘The Hitchers’. I have added more release information and a link to the BBC John Peel Hitchers page and an NME review to help assuage any doubt as to the bone fides of the band. Airwave 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
As you removed the PROD tag, this counts as contesting the deletion. I have therefore added an AFD tag. Let's see what happens next. Cpmartin 16:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
This page looks like it was written by a band member, and there are no verifiable links to back-up any of the statements in the "History" section. The end of this section is practically a gig list, and the last statement is a rumour generator placed by a band member to try and generate excitement. Simple mentions of "fantastic reviews" that are not backed-up cannot count as verifiable unless someone can show otherwise. This also goes for the "Limerick Event Guide" that is quoted, which could easily have been written by the band themselves, and cannot count as verifiable. Cpmartin 10:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree, some of the language and entries are rather 'fluffy', I will edit the less encyclopedic statements and make them 'drier'. I am not a member of this band. Airwave 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I have worked with this band, amongst others, over the years as a sound engineer in Xeric studios, Limerick. The name, 'The Hitchers', is copyright and is a trademark like in any other business. Whether or not the facts represented in the article can be considered vain or not is of no consequence, as they are simply facts. My intention with this article was to recount the exploits of what I consider to be a noteworthy band. With respect, please do not make this a personal issue. I do not assume to know you and I regard being accused a liar as rather offensive. Airwave 15:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I would like to know why are you attacking this article (and me) in such an agressive manner. I know of nothing that I have done to personally offend you and warrant this behaviour. Airwave 17:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. The only reason offered for opposing is potential confusion with the Rutger Hauer movie, but the dab notice at the top of the page should be sufficient, and at least not any worse than the previous status quo, in which The Hitchers was already a redirect to the band page. - GTBacchus( talk) 10:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
The Hitchers (band from Limerick) → The Hitchers — This page ( The Hitchers) originally contained the article now at The Hitchers (band from Limerick). Another article was created, "The Hitchers (band from Teeside)", and "The Hitchers" changed to a disambig between the two. The Teeside band article was successfully prodded, and the Limerick band article survived an AfD. The information on the Teeside band has been merged with the Limerick band article. I think that it would be more sensible to rename the only current article ("band from Limerick") back to "The Hitchers", but we need to retain the edit history, and we can't do a move while the redirect exists. As I see it, the ideal state of things will be to have the article at The Hitchers with the edit history that's now at "band from Limerick", with "band from Limerick" and perhaps "band from Teeside" as redirects. Tevildo 03:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
In my newspaper listing on upcoming movies they have the movie (mistakenly) listed as The Hitchers--and this is a major metropolitan newspaper with a copy edit staff. There is going to be confusion between the singular/plural usage. The movie series is way more notable then the band so you are going to have more people searching for it. The band should some disambiguation to it. 205.157.110.11 02:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
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