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... that The Hidden People by
Alison Littlewood is based on the 1895 incident in Ireland where
Bridget Cleary was burnt alive by her husband who believed she was a
fairy changeling? Sources:
[1] "A young woman named Bridget Cleary of ... County Tipperary, who was tortured and burned to death because her husband believed the fairies had spirited her away and substituted in her place a witch changeling";
[2] "... their stories are based around true events: The Hidden People on the case of Bridget Cleary, who was burned to death by her husband in Tipperary in 1896". Note that the correct date of the incident is 1895, see
[3][4].
New enough, long enough, QPQ done. While Earwig picks up several things, they all appear to be attributed quotes, so that is fine. The article is neutral and has reasonable citations. I have a slight issue with the hook and the
WP:LEDE: the lede is the only place where "based on the Bridget Cleary incident" is clearly stated (
MOS:INTRO says "Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article."), and the majority of the citations are about this incident, not about whether the book was based on the incident. I would prefer not to see so many citations in the lede section.
Bruce1ee, could you perhaps cover the incident itself more in the Background section and just summarise it in the lede? —
Kusma (
talk)
14:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"He does not see or hear from her again, until 1862 when Albie's father tells him that Lizzie had been burnt to death by her husband." -- He doesn't see or hear from her in 1862, either. I'm inclined to change "until 1862 when" to "and in 1862", but am open to better ideas. --
Jibal (
talk)
20:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
You're right, he doesn't see her in 1862; 1851 was the last time he saw her. Thanks for fixing that, and for the couple of other changes you made. —
Bruce1eetalk21:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
DYK hits
Just out of interest, two of the secondary links in this article's DYK on the Main page yesterday attracted more hits than the primary DYK link.
A fact from The Hidden People appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 July 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to
novels,
novellas,
novelettes and
short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
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film,
literature and other media on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.HorrorWikipedia:WikiProject HorrorTemplate:WikiProject Horrorhorror articles
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women writers on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that The Hidden People by
Alison Littlewood is based on the 1895 incident in Ireland where
Bridget Cleary was burnt alive by her husband who believed she was a
fairy changeling? Sources:
[1] "A young woman named Bridget Cleary of ... County Tipperary, who was tortured and burned to death because her husband believed the fairies had spirited her away and substituted in her place a witch changeling";
[2] "... their stories are based around true events: The Hidden People on the case of Bridget Cleary, who was burned to death by her husband in Tipperary in 1896". Note that the correct date of the incident is 1895, see
[3][4].
New enough, long enough, QPQ done. While Earwig picks up several things, they all appear to be attributed quotes, so that is fine. The article is neutral and has reasonable citations. I have a slight issue with the hook and the
WP:LEDE: the lede is the only place where "based on the Bridget Cleary incident" is clearly stated (
MOS:INTRO says "Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article."), and the majority of the citations are about this incident, not about whether the book was based on the incident. I would prefer not to see so many citations in the lede section.
Bruce1ee, could you perhaps cover the incident itself more in the Background section and just summarise it in the lede? —
Kusma (
talk)
14:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"He does not see or hear from her again, until 1862 when Albie's father tells him that Lizzie had been burnt to death by her husband." -- He doesn't see or hear from her in 1862, either. I'm inclined to change "until 1862 when" to "and in 1862", but am open to better ideas. --
Jibal (
talk)
20:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
You're right, he doesn't see her in 1862; 1851 was the last time he saw her. Thanks for fixing that, and for the couple of other changes you made. —
Bruce1eetalk21:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)reply
DYK hits
Just out of interest, two of the secondary links in this article's DYK on the Main page yesterday attracted more hits than the primary DYK link.