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This article is essentially a brief description of the Gideons and a list of critiques against them. It needs the organisation's history, quotes from those who support it, and it needs to be placed within a broader context. This is truly only a stub now. However, some useful information may still be derived from this.
The French texts refer to the Christ as "CHRIST" (without a definite article, and in capitals), which is a characteristic trait of U.S.-based fundamentalist Christian organisation.
Is it ok to take the bibles from hotels? If so, do they contain a message encouraging this or is it implied? 202.78.240.7 ( talk) 00:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I know, I know, necro-posting, but its a valid question. Technically the bibles are property of The Gideons, not the hotel, and are left to be distributed. It stands to reason that taking them is entirely up to the guest and the hotel is given a handful of extras to replace them, while new copies are requested. -- Axslayer33 ( talk) 13:27, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I have never heard that it is all right to take Bibles from hotels, any more than it is all right to take Bibles from hospitals. Vorbee ( talk) 07:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Aș dori să îmi trimiteți niște bibli pentru a ajuta pe alții să cunoască pe Dumnezeu Steopananton ( talk) 12:05, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
I replaced the back-translation from the French preface to the Gideon Bible with what appears to be its English original. There seem to be a few differences.
I would question whether anyone seeing a Gideon Bible, with any familiarity at all with the structure of the Bible at least, could mistake this text for a passage of Scripture. In the Gideon New Testament I am looking at, the text is followed by a brief index of passages for those who "need help" or are "in trouble," the famous translations of John 3:16 into multiple languages, and finally, the table of contents for the New Testament.
There are legitimate questions that can be asked about Gideon Bibles. I'm not at all sure that their densely printed Bibles with minimal apparatus are the best way to introduce people to the reading of Scripture. Without context and helps, a new Bible reader is apt to become bored or confused; at a very minimum, where the New Testament quotes the Old, a cross reference should be given. Gideon Bibles are hard to read, and not very good for serious Bible students. The accusation that they are misleading readers by mixing their own commentary into Scripture seems fairly wide of the mark, though. -- Smerdis of Tlön 03:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What else to say ? I'm glad to find that reference to a Beatles'one. And the habit of opening haphazard a book like a Bible to find an answer to any question or to no question in particular is not so bad. Especially when you're alone in a hotel room and your gal has gone. -- Harvestman 20:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Could we at least provide a notice that there is a dispute? Enough people believe this and try to change it that it deserves some discussion instead of blind, ignorant removal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.169.32.114 ( talk • contribs) 02:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Seconded. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.30.189.203 ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
There are at least 50 people who believe this is fully plausable and possible, two of which are christian who read from the books given out by Gideons International. Give us at least a dispute, or you are going against god's word and punishing those who follow him. Peace bee with you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.146.19.236 ( talk • contribs) 13:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
It occurs to me that one could simply add this in as a "references in popular culture" thingy. "A popular internet meme suggests that holding the doorknob blah blah blah", something like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.76.80 ( talk • contribs) 05:35, 22 July 2006
It looked like blatant trolling to me when I first saw it, I think it should be left out entirely. Amusing, but inappropriate for Wikipedia. Uncyclopedia on the other hand... ;) Good to see the page is protected now. -- 70.17.45.238 22:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Thought the bit added to the trivia section was more BS, but some research proved otherwise: http://www.astronautix.com/flights/apollo8.htm Shanada 08:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps some information should be given about the Auxiliary as well. 68.113.47.82 17:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, this is maybe a little American-centric, because i got my copy of the New Testament on the sidewalk before my school (which should be, according to the article, orange), but it is dark-blue. DavidSpanel ( talk) 14:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Very good point; not being able to read the handbook in other languages, I'm not sure if there are different color codes. I do know that local camps sometimes will hand out the "wrong" color for expediency/budget reasons. Delfeye ( talk) 22:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, every hotel I've been in has had a dark red cover. I've never seen a school edition so I can't attest if it's the same red, a dark red, or the burgundy one. I can provide a picture if requested.-- Axslayer33 ( talk) 13:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)Italic text
It turns out that our only reference backing up a statement about translations used is a website devoted to proving the authority of the KJV and the corruption of all other versions. Removing the reference necessitated removing the statements based on it. DJ Clayworth ( talk) 15:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
This section as previously written asserted without source that the Gideons Constitution Article 3 specifically excluded members of specific faiths from Gideons membership or attendance. A reading of (and link to) the actual text in question provides a more nuanced set of requirements which mentions no specific denomination by name.
The original section also mentioned as support of the Gideons' membership policy a school-prayer suit filed by a Mormon family and a Catholic family, along with a link to the relevant article; I reviewed that article, found that it referred to the Gideons only in passing and did not support the contentions claimed, and removed the link and reference. Wilsonchas ( talk) 05:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Anyone know how these are printed? I have a green I got back in college. I love the cover/binding. It's leatherette (plastic) and done quite nicely. Other than some military manuals, I've never seen that. It just says Gideon Society or something on the inside and doesn't list the publisher. Do they publish in-house? Anyone know anything further about the Gideon Bible as a material object? It really is a nice book. It's fairly odd, too considering most everything lately is published in 5 1/2 X 8 or larger. Guinness4life ( talk) 19:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Article describes the preface as giving the Biblical view of salvation. This is subjective, recommend that it be clarified to reflect that this is the organization's view of salvation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.68.189 ( talk) 16:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
The intro sentence says, "Gideons International (also known as Gideon's Bible)" ... Is the organization itself actually known as "Gideon's Bible", or is that what they're best known for distributing? Caduon ( talk) 07:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Federales deleted a whole section with this edit. Placing a link at talk page per WP:PRESERVE. Diego ( talk) 21:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I removed the tag because, quite frankly, I didn't see anything that came across as unfairly presenting any opinion on the issue of distribution in schools toward one side or another. I also didn't see any relevant discussions about it on this talk page to explain why it had been tagged since 2011. 74.219.76.162 ( talk) 23:35, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
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This article could point out that some Gideon Bibles, as well as the Bible, have suggested prayers in. I remember the copy of the Gideon Bible I was given as a student and that had a section of recommended prayers for different situations. Vorbee ( talk) 06:39, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
This article could point out that the Gideons give out New Testaments in schools, with one request - that people read the New Testament every day. Vorbee ( talk) 06:50, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
This article as written is entirely U.S.-focused and lacks any coverage of Gideons' national associations in many countries, with activities in Central and South America, Europe, Mozambique, Kenya, Indonesia, Philippines, India, etc. Gideons is a worldwide organization but the reader wouldn't know it by reading this article, except for the title. JGHowes talk 13:38, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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I can't place the source, but I remember stories that prostitutes wrote their names and numbers in Gideon Bibles in hotel rooms, hoping to drum up business. I thought that was the reference the Beatles meant. Does anyone else remember this? RussellBell ( talk) 04:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Now Rocky Raccoon, he fell back in his room Only to find Gideon's Bible Gideon checked out, and he left it, no doubt To help with good Rocky's revival Flight Risk ( talk) 05:09, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello sir can I take a bible 2409:4064:258C:9402:EC08:E590:A7E5:470C ( talk) 18:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Donation of Bibles for someone who passed away 2601:402:400:FC50:31B5:CB81:E8BF:FAE2 ( talk) 18:15, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Giddeon's also produce a "New Testament Psalms and Proverbs" size 118mm x 80mm x 16mm (roughly A6). It has a white cover. Inside it says "This Book is not to be sold."
A tiny dark blue New Testament with Psalms and Proverbs is also available.
The normal size of the dark green New Testament with psalms is 226mm x 153mm x 17mm (roughly A5).
See http://gideons.bible.is . MountVic127 ( talk) 20:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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The French texts refer to the Christ as "CHRIST" (without a definite article, and in capitals), which is a characteristic trait of U.S.-based fundamentalist Christian organisation.
Is it ok to take the bibles from hotels? If so, do they contain a message encouraging this or is it implied? 202.78.240.7 ( talk) 00:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I know, I know, necro-posting, but its a valid question. Technically the bibles are property of The Gideons, not the hotel, and are left to be distributed. It stands to reason that taking them is entirely up to the guest and the hotel is given a handful of extras to replace them, while new copies are requested. -- Axslayer33 ( talk) 13:27, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
I have never heard that it is all right to take Bibles from hotels, any more than it is all right to take Bibles from hospitals. Vorbee ( talk) 07:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Aș dori să îmi trimiteți niște bibli pentru a ajuta pe alții să cunoască pe Dumnezeu Steopananton ( talk) 12:05, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
I replaced the back-translation from the French preface to the Gideon Bible with what appears to be its English original. There seem to be a few differences.
I would question whether anyone seeing a Gideon Bible, with any familiarity at all with the structure of the Bible at least, could mistake this text for a passage of Scripture. In the Gideon New Testament I am looking at, the text is followed by a brief index of passages for those who "need help" or are "in trouble," the famous translations of John 3:16 into multiple languages, and finally, the table of contents for the New Testament.
There are legitimate questions that can be asked about Gideon Bibles. I'm not at all sure that their densely printed Bibles with minimal apparatus are the best way to introduce people to the reading of Scripture. Without context and helps, a new Bible reader is apt to become bored or confused; at a very minimum, where the New Testament quotes the Old, a cross reference should be given. Gideon Bibles are hard to read, and not very good for serious Bible students. The accusation that they are misleading readers by mixing their own commentary into Scripture seems fairly wide of the mark, though. -- Smerdis of Tlön 03:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What else to say ? I'm glad to find that reference to a Beatles'one. And the habit of opening haphazard a book like a Bible to find an answer to any question or to no question in particular is not so bad. Especially when you're alone in a hotel room and your gal has gone. -- Harvestman 20:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Could we at least provide a notice that there is a dispute? Enough people believe this and try to change it that it deserves some discussion instead of blind, ignorant removal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.169.32.114 ( talk • contribs) 02:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Seconded. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.30.189.203 ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
There are at least 50 people who believe this is fully plausable and possible, two of which are christian who read from the books given out by Gideons International. Give us at least a dispute, or you are going against god's word and punishing those who follow him. Peace bee with you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.146.19.236 ( talk • contribs) 13:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
It occurs to me that one could simply add this in as a "references in popular culture" thingy. "A popular internet meme suggests that holding the doorknob blah blah blah", something like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.76.80 ( talk • contribs) 05:35, 22 July 2006
It looked like blatant trolling to me when I first saw it, I think it should be left out entirely. Amusing, but inappropriate for Wikipedia. Uncyclopedia on the other hand... ;) Good to see the page is protected now. -- 70.17.45.238 22:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Thought the bit added to the trivia section was more BS, but some research proved otherwise: http://www.astronautix.com/flights/apollo8.htm Shanada 08:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps some information should be given about the Auxiliary as well. 68.113.47.82 17:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, this is maybe a little American-centric, because i got my copy of the New Testament on the sidewalk before my school (which should be, according to the article, orange), but it is dark-blue. DavidSpanel ( talk) 14:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Very good point; not being able to read the handbook in other languages, I'm not sure if there are different color codes. I do know that local camps sometimes will hand out the "wrong" color for expediency/budget reasons. Delfeye ( talk) 22:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, every hotel I've been in has had a dark red cover. I've never seen a school edition so I can't attest if it's the same red, a dark red, or the burgundy one. I can provide a picture if requested.-- Axslayer33 ( talk) 13:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)Italic text
It turns out that our only reference backing up a statement about translations used is a website devoted to proving the authority of the KJV and the corruption of all other versions. Removing the reference necessitated removing the statements based on it. DJ Clayworth ( talk) 15:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
This section as previously written asserted without source that the Gideons Constitution Article 3 specifically excluded members of specific faiths from Gideons membership or attendance. A reading of (and link to) the actual text in question provides a more nuanced set of requirements which mentions no specific denomination by name.
The original section also mentioned as support of the Gideons' membership policy a school-prayer suit filed by a Mormon family and a Catholic family, along with a link to the relevant article; I reviewed that article, found that it referred to the Gideons only in passing and did not support the contentions claimed, and removed the link and reference. Wilsonchas ( talk) 05:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Anyone know how these are printed? I have a green I got back in college. I love the cover/binding. It's leatherette (plastic) and done quite nicely. Other than some military manuals, I've never seen that. It just says Gideon Society or something on the inside and doesn't list the publisher. Do they publish in-house? Anyone know anything further about the Gideon Bible as a material object? It really is a nice book. It's fairly odd, too considering most everything lately is published in 5 1/2 X 8 or larger. Guinness4life ( talk) 19:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Article describes the preface as giving the Biblical view of salvation. This is subjective, recommend that it be clarified to reflect that this is the organization's view of salvation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.68.189 ( talk) 16:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
The intro sentence says, "Gideons International (also known as Gideon's Bible)" ... Is the organization itself actually known as "Gideon's Bible", or is that what they're best known for distributing? Caduon ( talk) 07:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Federales deleted a whole section with this edit. Placing a link at talk page per WP:PRESERVE. Diego ( talk) 21:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I removed the tag because, quite frankly, I didn't see anything that came across as unfairly presenting any opinion on the issue of distribution in schools toward one side or another. I also didn't see any relevant discussions about it on this talk page to explain why it had been tagged since 2011. 74.219.76.162 ( talk) 23:35, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
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This article could point out that some Gideon Bibles, as well as the Bible, have suggested prayers in. I remember the copy of the Gideon Bible I was given as a student and that had a section of recommended prayers for different situations. Vorbee ( talk) 06:39, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
This article could point out that the Gideons give out New Testaments in schools, with one request - that people read the New Testament every day. Vorbee ( talk) 06:50, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
This article as written is entirely U.S.-focused and lacks any coverage of Gideons' national associations in many countries, with activities in Central and South America, Europe, Mozambique, Kenya, Indonesia, Philippines, India, etc. Gideons is a worldwide organization but the reader wouldn't know it by reading this article, except for the title. JGHowes talk 13:38, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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I can't place the source, but I remember stories that prostitutes wrote their names and numbers in Gideon Bibles in hotel rooms, hoping to drum up business. I thought that was the reference the Beatles meant. Does anyone else remember this? RussellBell ( talk) 04:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Now Rocky Raccoon, he fell back in his room Only to find Gideon's Bible Gideon checked out, and he left it, no doubt To help with good Rocky's revival Flight Risk ( talk) 05:09, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello sir can I take a bible 2409:4064:258C:9402:EC08:E590:A7E5:470C ( talk) 18:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Donation of Bibles for someone who passed away 2601:402:400:FC50:31B5:CB81:E8BF:FAE2 ( talk) 18:15, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Giddeon's also produce a "New Testament Psalms and Proverbs" size 118mm x 80mm x 16mm (roughly A6). It has a white cover. Inside it says "This Book is not to be sold."
A tiny dark blue New Testament with Psalms and Proverbs is also available.
The normal size of the dark green New Testament with psalms is 226mm x 153mm x 17mm (roughly A5).
See http://gideons.bible.is . MountVic127 ( talk) 20:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)