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It's not really correct to call it an adaptation of the novel (or movie), as it occurs 10 years after the events in those. I made it "sequel" in the lede as that seems more accurate. Barsoomian ( talk) 06:27, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
There should be a better description of what the show is about in the intro. Background section should be re-named and put earlier in the article CrocodilesAreForWimps ( talk) 19:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
I started going through reviews. However, the ratings were so bad for the first two episodes, that I am holding off on spending any more time with this franchise. The following are the reviews that I have found and not incorporated:
-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:03, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Is there a chance that this is renewed in Canada and or AXN but not on NBC; that it is renewed and NBC moves it down to USA, Bravo or A&E; or that it is renewed but picked up by a non-affiliated cable network in the USA.?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to The Firm (2012 TV series) Mike Cline ( talk) 14:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
The Firm (Canadian TV series) →
The Firm (2012 TV series) – The series aired in the U.S. & Canada for the first time on the same day. It should be named by year now (
WP:TV-NAME).
68.44.179.54 (
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15:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I know that Global is showing The Firm on Saturday the 10th of March, due to the launch of new series Awake, but I can't find anything other than my "TV Guide" and their web "schedule" to confirm that it is a permanent move. The "official" Global site still lists Thursday as the air time. If they move this show to Saturday, then Showcase and all will probably re-arrange also?-- UnQuébécois ( talk) 18:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Are you kidding me? You’re cancelling this show? It is so much better than any other show on TV now! I can’t believe ya’ll are doing this. This is why I don’t get into shows sometimes because as soon as you get into something, they cut it off. This show would have done much better on ABC…..where they have the worst shows on TV yet. Why do you cut off all the good stuff??? And leave the crummy stuff alone??? Now we’ll never find out if the family is going to be okay from the mob….we’ll never find out if the advisory guy actually killed the girl or if it was a set up. So many questions left unanswered. The reason the rating were so bad is because they handled this show incorrectly, changing times, etc. Whoever made this decision is really lame. Signed KD & upset, USA
Under cast we have:
Is "blue-blood wife" a regular expression? Thought at first it meant that she was of a police family, but found this in the background section of the character article. Is this correct? Or is it to depict that she comes from a wealthy family?
It has been too long since I read the book, and the book is lost for me so I can't look it up as of now, but can't recall this.
If it is a word-play by Mike Hale in NYT, to make his article more picturesque, I do not quite agree it should be used in an encyclopedic article – at least not without a more concrete clarification.
(Worth noticing: English is not my native tongue, so I can have missed something here.) Blue Blood in this context does mean a family that has money and probably social position also. (The term "Blue Blood" is
Warumwarum ( talk) 05:54, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
In both the book and the movie, Abby McDeere has come from a well-off Eastern US family. Mitch McDeere seems driven to prove to her parents that he indeed is worthy of her. She does not care that his family has less money and lower social standing than her family, but that difference sometimes matters to Mitch...and to Abby's parents. Some of the later episodes of THE FIRM (TV series) deals with her parents and their attitudes towards Mitch are discussed...The term "blue blood" was correctly used here to denote Abby's family as having both money and social position as contrasted to Mitch's lower class and poor family. Lindisfarnelibrary ( talk) 06:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I have great issue with the intro saying the show was cancelled by NBC. Sure those are the words used by The Futon Critic in the reference but it grossly misrepresents reality. Most American media outlets treat The Firm as if it is an NBC original series and it couldn't be further from the truth. Sony commissioned the show for their AXN channels around the world. NBC bought broadcast rights to The Firm much like ABC does with Rookie Blue or BBC America does with Law & Order | UK, Being Human, Twenty Twelve, Bedlam, The Hour, and Whitechapel or Sci Fi Australia does with Lost Girl, The Almighty Johnsons, Alphas, and Face Off. A rights-buyer can drop a show from their schedule, much like NBC did with The Listener, but if the commissioning broadcaster hasn't decided to end it then it isn't cancelled. So far Sony has not indicated they don't want more. Do we even have any indication of how The Firm is doing in any of the AXN markets? delirious & lost ☯ ~hugs~ 13:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: TonyTheTiger ( talk · contribs)
Reviewer: Generalissima ( talk · contribs) 00:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
This article is a long way from meeting the GA criteria on broadness and images, as well as having some sourcing and writing issues.
Like your other recent nominations, I am puzzled at the decision to seemingly throw this at GAN and see if it sticks. I'm no stranger to making lots of GANs at once, but please make sure they actually meet the criteria first. Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 00:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
The Firm (2012 TV series) was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
June 4, 2011. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the
2011–12 season's television adaptation of
The Firm is a sequel to a
1991 novel that sold 7 million copies and a
1993 film that grossed $270 million worldwide? |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
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It's not really correct to call it an adaptation of the novel (or movie), as it occurs 10 years after the events in those. I made it "sequel" in the lede as that seems more accurate. Barsoomian ( talk) 06:27, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
There should be a better description of what the show is about in the intro. Background section should be re-named and put earlier in the article CrocodilesAreForWimps ( talk) 19:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
I started going through reviews. However, the ratings were so bad for the first two episodes, that I am holding off on spending any more time with this franchise. The following are the reviews that I have found and not incorporated:
-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:03, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Is there a chance that this is renewed in Canada and or AXN but not on NBC; that it is renewed and NBC moves it down to USA, Bravo or A&E; or that it is renewed but picked up by a non-affiliated cable network in the USA.?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to The Firm (2012 TV series) Mike Cline ( talk) 14:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
The Firm (Canadian TV series) →
The Firm (2012 TV series) – The series aired in the U.S. & Canada for the first time on the same day. It should be named by year now (
WP:TV-NAME).
68.44.179.54 (
talk)
15:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I know that Global is showing The Firm on Saturday the 10th of March, due to the launch of new series Awake, but I can't find anything other than my "TV Guide" and their web "schedule" to confirm that it is a permanent move. The "official" Global site still lists Thursday as the air time. If they move this show to Saturday, then Showcase and all will probably re-arrange also?-- UnQuébécois ( talk) 18:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Are you kidding me? You’re cancelling this show? It is so much better than any other show on TV now! I can’t believe ya’ll are doing this. This is why I don’t get into shows sometimes because as soon as you get into something, they cut it off. This show would have done much better on ABC…..where they have the worst shows on TV yet. Why do you cut off all the good stuff??? And leave the crummy stuff alone??? Now we’ll never find out if the family is going to be okay from the mob….we’ll never find out if the advisory guy actually killed the girl or if it was a set up. So many questions left unanswered. The reason the rating were so bad is because they handled this show incorrectly, changing times, etc. Whoever made this decision is really lame. Signed KD & upset, USA
Under cast we have:
Is "blue-blood wife" a regular expression? Thought at first it meant that she was of a police family, but found this in the background section of the character article. Is this correct? Or is it to depict that she comes from a wealthy family?
It has been too long since I read the book, and the book is lost for me so I can't look it up as of now, but can't recall this.
If it is a word-play by Mike Hale in NYT, to make his article more picturesque, I do not quite agree it should be used in an encyclopedic article – at least not without a more concrete clarification.
(Worth noticing: English is not my native tongue, so I can have missed something here.) Blue Blood in this context does mean a family that has money and probably social position also. (The term "Blue Blood" is
Warumwarum ( talk) 05:54, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
In both the book and the movie, Abby McDeere has come from a well-off Eastern US family. Mitch McDeere seems driven to prove to her parents that he indeed is worthy of her. She does not care that his family has less money and lower social standing than her family, but that difference sometimes matters to Mitch...and to Abby's parents. Some of the later episodes of THE FIRM (TV series) deals with her parents and their attitudes towards Mitch are discussed...The term "blue blood" was correctly used here to denote Abby's family as having both money and social position as contrasted to Mitch's lower class and poor family. Lindisfarnelibrary ( talk) 06:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I have great issue with the intro saying the show was cancelled by NBC. Sure those are the words used by The Futon Critic in the reference but it grossly misrepresents reality. Most American media outlets treat The Firm as if it is an NBC original series and it couldn't be further from the truth. Sony commissioned the show for their AXN channels around the world. NBC bought broadcast rights to The Firm much like ABC does with Rookie Blue or BBC America does with Law & Order | UK, Being Human, Twenty Twelve, Bedlam, The Hour, and Whitechapel or Sci Fi Australia does with Lost Girl, The Almighty Johnsons, Alphas, and Face Off. A rights-buyer can drop a show from their schedule, much like NBC did with The Listener, but if the commissioning broadcaster hasn't decided to end it then it isn't cancelled. So far Sony has not indicated they don't want more. Do we even have any indication of how The Firm is doing in any of the AXN markets? delirious & lost ☯ ~hugs~ 13:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: TonyTheTiger ( talk · contribs)
Reviewer: Generalissima ( talk · contribs) 00:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
This article is a long way from meeting the GA criteria on broadness and images, as well as having some sourcing and writing issues.
Like your other recent nominations, I am puzzled at the decision to seemingly throw this at GAN and see if it sticks. I'm no stranger to making lots of GANs at once, but please make sure they actually meet the criteria first. Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 00:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)