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This section states "Blatty, Schrader and von Sydow have all discounted such tales as nonsense". However Blatty is recorded on videotape talking about the on screen activities on the set. This has been edited when I put it on this website, even though it's Blatty's own words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6n0pgaYJVg
The "Responses" section could be expanded. This film was incredibly controversial in the canada, and the media speculated that it had driven viewers to suicide, etc. Certainly the reaction from some quarters bordered on the hysterical. I don't think the existing section really conveys how taboo the film was while banned. McPhail 00:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
>> I would also say that the 'mass hysteria' that this film produced is grossly under-rated in this article. It (the audience reaction) was a major news-story locally (was it covered in the national news?). I believe that this is a major gap in the article. The audience reaction was (and remains) a notable/unique cultural-event in and of itself.
The "Goofs" section seems lifted from IMDB, complete with "incorrectly regarded as goofs." 72.147.108.21 05:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
As well, the "trivia" section is word for word copied from IMDB. Should probably be rewritten. ~~Flora.
WOW! This article is pretty long, yet is lacks some good pictures from the film. Anyone want to consider adding some? Kill-bill-93 11:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Would you like to consider adding some? Yojimbo501 ( talk) 15:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Epecially considering that both the prequel films have their own articles here (which are linked within this article) there is entirely too much space devoted to the discussion of them here. That entire part of the "Sequels" section needs trimming. 12.22.250.4 20:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Dana Plato was never offered the role of Regan. Near the end of her life, Plato claimed she had been offered this role, but this is highly doubtful. She was about 7 years old when casting was taking place (several years younger than Linda Blair), and had no film, or television credits at the time. Until Plato herself made her claims, there was no documentation of her having any involvement with the film. William Peter Blatty himself has said that this was not true, and that he had never heard of her prior to these rumors, rumors perpetuated by herself.
Erin Moran from Happy Days also claims that she was up for the part, but her parents took her out of the running because of their religious beliefs.
I've also heard that the actress who played Buffy on Family Affair turned down the part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.242.34.129 ( talk) 22:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
From the Casting" section: "Anissa Jones, known for her role as Buffy in Family Affair, auditioned for the role, but she too was rejected, for much the same reason as Ferdin".
Since the article doesn't say for what reason Ferdin was rejected, that sentence doesn't make any sense.-- CRConrad ( talk) 23:57, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
The trivia sections (notably the Production and casting details and Reactions ones) needs to be moved out and integrated into new secions or existing section in the article (like Production and Reception). Also, this article needs to be written according to the WP:Films Style guidelines. Cbrown1023 21:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
The movie never specifically says "who" possessed Linda Blair.
So is there any source that says which specific demon possessed her? Anker99 04:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I’m not sure of the source, since I read it many years ago, but the demon possessing young Regan is called "Pazuzu". The description that I read described Pazuzu as a Demon of the “desert wind”. The desert wind is a pernicious thing, if you live in the desert. It dries you out, in a
land with sparse water. --
John richard leonard
06:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC)John_Richard_Leonard
"Pazuzu" or "Padzuzu" is a god of wind, and since he has a "banana" name, probably predates Babylonian myothology, but was adopted from an earlier culture (that's anthropological speculation). Pazusu is a god of wind, as others have stated, but more as a curse- a deity of foul winds and pestilence, a bringer of disease and desolation. [D. Sanders] —Preceding
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Additionally, Pazuzu can be seen both at the beginning and end of the film. First, Father Merrin recovers the remains of an idol of Pazuzu during the excavation scene at the beginning of the film, (many ancient Sumerian households kept such idols, believing that doing so would protect their women and children). At the end of the film, Pazuzu can again be scene when Regan breaks free of her restraints during the exorcism. Also, in the exteded version of the film, the image of Pazuzu can be seen when Regan's mother comes home and the lights are flickering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.31.23.32 ( talk) 15:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Exorcist&diff=prev&oldid=51702734
Hi, does the trivia section contain any info added by the edit above? I find some of the bits difficult to believe. (Rome?) -- Kjoon lee 04:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
The one-paragraph plot section was simply cut and pasted from the Internet Movie Database. While IMDB has been cited in the references as being the source, wikipedia guidelines clearly state: "Do not copy text from other websites without permission. It will be deleted." Somebody familiar with the film's narrative needs to rewrite/expand the plot section.- Hal Raglan 14:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Looks like somebody tried to address this, but the result was a mess. I've cleaned it up some. Minaker 10:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The article claims that "following a successful re-release in cinemas in 1998, the film was resubmitted and was passed uncut with an 18 certificate rating in 1999, signifying a relaxation of the censorship rules with relation to home video in the UK. The movie was shown on UK television for the first time in 2001, on Channel 4. This led to Exorcist Bus Trips where enterprising travel companies organized buses to take groups to the nearest town where the film was showing." This is highly unlikely to be true, since Channel 4 is a free-to-air terrestrial channel broadcast throughout England and Scotland. I suppose there may be a few parts of Wales that couldn't see it, due to Channel 4 being replaced there by S4C. However, it would seem more likely that the Exorcist Bus Trips are a reference to the cinema re-release. - 86.146.46.45 14:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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"Both the film and novel took inspirations from a documented exorcism in 1949, performed on a 12 year old boy." That is an extremely intriguing sentence, but would be better with a fact citation. It would actually considerably enhance the article if more information about this reported exorcism could be included (see for example Jaws (film) and Jersey Shore Shark Attacks of 1916). -- Legis ( talk - contribs) 14:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
There are no facts, other than the claims of the bishops, who performed the "exorcism" over the little boy. The movie, "Exorcist", played an unfortunate role in the case of Anneliese Michel, who eventually died as a result of the efforts to exorcise a demon that was not there. Check the wikipedia site for Anneliese Michel. The case of Anneliese Michel was used as inspiration for the movie "Exorcism of Emily Rouse", 2003, claiming that is based on the "true story" of Anneliese Michel. Go figure what is true and what is fake!
writing separately from the above unsigned statement, which is not mine - The statement indicating that Father Halloran denied witnessing any supernatural events is contrary to the article on the exorcism of Roland Doe in Wikipedia, and further is contrary to an interview with the director of the film describing his conversations with the priests involved and his reading of the diaries, including in an interview on NPR which aired today, 4/29/13. Given that it is not sourced, and is over-sweeping and contrary to the documentation cited in the separate article on Wikipedia and the director of the film itself, should it not be removed and/or tempered by Halloran's actual statements as recorded? Sorry I don't know the correct citation formats for these sources or I would fix it myself ShelbysLamb ( talk) 19:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Screamers have become a popular part of the internet, and most of the images on them are from the Exorcist. Shouldn't this be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.21.186 ( talk) 18:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
IMHO Ghostbusters ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters) refernces The Exorcist - the part where Dana levatates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkstar24 ( talk • contribs) 15:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The section referencing " subliminal" images in this article is problematic. I understand that the source you listed refers to the quick, scary flashes of the demon as "subliminal", and even quotes Friedkin himself as calling them "subliminal" edits - but they are not. Subliminal imagery is by definition not visible by the naked eye. The rapid flashes of the demonic face in "The Exorcist" are not "subliminal" at all. Mentioning that the film was "accused" of subliminal editing is a good illustration of the hysteria that surrounded the movie, and perhaps well placed under "reception", but it is misleading to refer to those fast edits as subliminal. If you must include the reference to that controversy/article, can you please make sure that this distinction is kept clear and not deleted again. Regardless of the accusations there was never any actual subliminal imagery in "The Exorcist". ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 06:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
ShirleyPatridge, your seething sarcasm cannot disguise your continuing confusion regarding one of the main topics at hand: Reliable Sourcing. I have provided you with the link to the policy repeatedly above; please read it at least once, as it is one of the core policies of Wikipedia. Video Watchdog, despite your bizarre hatred of that publication, is a reliable source. It fits all the requirements noted in the policy. The Dark Romance website does not. Again, please read and attempt to comprehend the RS policy before making any more "amusing" commentary regarding your personal theory as to what constitutes an adequate RS.- Hal Raglan ( talk) 00:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
From a six-years-later, not-involved-in-the-original-discussion, just-stumbling-across-the-article perspective: If Reliable Sourcing is so dang important to Hal Raglan, then why wasn't he campaigning just as vigorously for the claims that there was subliminal editing going on to be verified by reliable sources? Yeah, sure, it could probably very well be verified by utterly Reliable Sources that someone said there was subliminal editing. But putting up "someone said this-and-that", uncontested, when you well know that "this-and-that" is untrue, that is pretty fucking obvious weasel-wording (or some such; I'm sure it has its own policy page), designed to make naive readers think "this-and-that" is actually what we're saying. You can't seriously claim that this was not yet thought of in 2008, or are you? So, in sum, yammering about ShirleyPatridge's "seething sarcasm" seems pretty darn whiney -- not that I could really see much "seething sarcasm", but had there been any, it would IMO have been well deserved on the merits. -- 62.78.146.58 ( talk) 23:30, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Here: http://captainhowdy.com/?page_id=4 Wfgh66 ( talk) 23:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
BTW, I have never managed to watch this film without falling asleep. I think it's boring. Wfgh66 ( talk) 23:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Regarding subliminal images, I removed the recently-added sentence that said "As far as the FCC is concerned (to prevent subliminal advertising), subliminal images are under 1/24 of a second, which is faster than the eye can perceive, with a framerate of 24 frames per second". The sentence was unsourced and casual research seems to suggest that the FCC "has no rules on what is, or is not, a "subliminal" message" (see [3]).
I could find no authoritative source to counter that. However, if this was a mistake, please feel free to re-add the sentence along with a citation.
Thanks! - Clueless ( talk) 01:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
can someone with a good print or reliable transfer of the movie, in its original form, confirm whether or not there are any single-frame (1/24th second duration) images in the flick or not? then we can put this the fuck to bed. that's all it needs. single-frame shots in the movie, or not. nothing else passes any technical definition of 'subliminal', per FCC, OfCom or any other film/tv regulatory body.
duncanrmi ( talk) 09:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
About 75% of this article reads like the IMDB listing. There should be a WikiMovies site, and films need to start being left off of this "encyclopedia" - eh. Melia Nymph ( talk) 03:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Damien Karas is said to be Greek in both the book and the movie, and this is shown by his mother and uncle, the Greek radio station playing in his mom's apartment, etc. Why would a devout Greek kid become a Roman Catholic priest and not go into the holy orders of the Greek Orthodox Church? 45750born ( talk) 20:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Originally, gross data was cited from the-number.com, which seems to count only the initial release of the film. Box Office Mojo counts re-releases as well, appropriate here since the article covers all releases. I updated the article with data from the latter. +sj + 08:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
This isn't necessarily an important discussion point, but is it just me, or are the names of all cast members emboldened?? Just checking before making any changes. Sudhir R 14:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
In Casting section, one actress rejected "much the same reason as Ferdin", but reason why Ferdin rejected is missing (presumably edited out in the past). • Serviceable† Villain 00:07, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm unable to divine what is meant by, "The actual events likely to have occurred (such as words being carved on skin) being those that a young man could simply fake by himself, though the case attracted a great deal of notoriety."
Bad paste job?
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Abbythecat ( talk) 01:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)Under related films, it says the astronaut in THE NINTH CONFIGURATION is the nameless astronaut at Chris' party in THE EXORCIST movie. The astronaut isn't named in THE EXORCIST. Is it right to assume he's the same astronaut in NINTH just because both characters are astronauts? I won't remove it ... but maybe someone should ...? Abbythecat Abbythecat ( talk) 01:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
I removed Mike Oldfield from the infobox, as he is not the credited composer. However, different sources give different information, and I wonder if Jack Nitzsche shouldn't be removed as well. IMDb lists no credited composer, while TCM database lists compositions by 6 different composers, including Nitzsche, Oldfield, Webern, and Penderecki. AllMovie lists only Nitzsche. With different sources disagreeing, perhaps the infobox field should be left blank and the matter discussed in the production section. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 13:51, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
only nitzsche is or should be listed as having composed original music for the flick, & it was only incidental music. the main themes & so forth were curated by the music editor (eugene marks, for the original version) from existing works (e.g. 'tubular bells' & so on). imdb does list nitzsche in fact, but imdb content is inadmissible here because wp rules. the actual movie credits were used to populate imdb's entry, but that isn't good enough for wp because audit trail or something.
duncanrmi ( talk) 09:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Amid my recent spate of edits and improvements to the article (something I did not expect I'd be doing) following my creation of Paul Bateson, I have begun to grow skeptical of the idea that some theaters handed out special "Exorcist" barf bags.
All the sources I found that we might remotely consider reliable are modern ones, usually compilations of yes-really facts about The Exorcist on its release anniversaries. Contemporary sources, while they do mention nausea as a common audience reaction, do not state anywhere I have been able to find that theaters handed out barf bags, let alone branded ones. I also note that the article about sickness bags, linked above, has an unsourced (soon to be tagged as such) claim that they were handed out as a promotional gimmick at exploitation horror films of the era—perhaps this is where this might have come from? ( Or not)
The closest I've come to anything that supports this claims is the cover of the Mad issue that parodied the film, featuring what seems to be an actual photograph (rather than an illustration) of an Exorcist-specific barf bag. Maybe this is what people today are remembering?
I will have to modify this part appropriately, but if anyone can find a better source, from the time of the movie's release, demonstrating that theaters a) actually did keep airsickness bags in stock and even b) that these were branded, now's the time. Daniel Case ( talk) 19:20, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
This, to me, suggests it's an urban myth. Daniel Case ( talk) 03:50, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
However, my original question has still not been answered definitively. Yes, it is beyond dispute that people puked their guts out in great numbers while watching the film (one of my sources suggests, interestingly, that it might have been the result of overidentification with Regan rather than anything that actually disgusted them that much). But ... did theaters at the time of its release actually hand out branded barf bags? I haven't seen any source from that time explicitly saying this, and I'm inclined to believe that people in later years are sort of embellishing their memories. Daniel Case ( talk) 03:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Daniel Case What about "Legal disputes" instead of "Studio litigation against alleged imitators"? I was trying to make section headings more concise to ease readability. Mitchumch ( talk) 17:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Not sure if it's relevant, but I lived near Georgetown in the 1980's and walked "the steps" several times. At the top was a house (bungalow?) which was completely boarded off on the sides. I often wondered whether this was the actual house used in the filming of the Carras death, or simply occupants sick of film fans peering in. Hanoi Road ( talk) 01:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Daniel Case has introduced loads of extra information in the lede including a "cultural conversation around religion" and details of awards that the film won. Not that it makes me or my argument any special, but I was the original author of much of the lede that survived for what seemed to be years. I think his additions are interesting, but belong in the article body, not the lede which is getting bloated. He seems tenacious in reverting to his additions, and I'm not engaging into yet another edit war of any sort. So you guys be the judge: shorter or longer lede. ᴳᴿᴲᴳᴼᴿᴵᴷ☺ ᶤᶯᵈᶸᶩᶢᵉ 16:34, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I believe this to be in keeping with MOS:INTRO: "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article ... Consideration should be given to creating interest in the article, but do not hint at startling facts without describing them." If my wording could be tightened, or if it's overly specific, I'm open to reading arguments about that, but I think things like the way the movie just took the country by storm and the discussions around Catholicism and the film's rating should be alluded to in the intro; as for the awards, I think it is significant enough that it was the first horror film to get a Best Picture nod should be mentioned in the intro, and as with a lot of other films that have won one or two Oscars in their year we usually mention those in the intro as well.
I am very religious about what MOS:LEADLENGTH says about intros not being longer than four grafs; I have written/expanded many articles and their corresponding intros and believe me, with a long enough article, you're working to get the broad outline covered within those four grafs and deliver a coherent narrative. I could understand if one or more grafs were "unreasonably long" per MOS:INTRO, but I don't think they are here (remember they may look a little longer since the infobox is squeezing them a bit).
I also don't see anything in our policies about how the length of time an intro has stood unedited has to be taken into consideration when editing it following an expansion; indeed, that's the whole point of Wikipedia—that what has been done, no matter how satisfied the community is with it, can always be improved, especially if some time has passed (I was at a conference in my capacity as a lacrosse referee over the weekend, and a similar ethos was promulgated: "If you think you've called a perfect game, you've called your last game." Likewise, here, if you think you've edited an article to beyond any possibility of improvement, then you should stop editing articles). Daniel Case ( talk) 21:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
The movie ending, as described in the article, is the one from the 2000 version, not the original 1973 one. Has "The Version You've Never Seen" become the de facto version of the film? Alvabass ( talk) 02:26, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
There are several spoofs of the Father Merrin character - notably one by actor James Woods - in which he is invariably depicted as an Irishman. Von Sydow's accent in the film could very easily be construed as Irish (it would actually be quite difficult to describe it as anything other than that). Is anyone aware of any source for his country of origin? Is it mentioned in the book? Hanoi Road ( talk) 00:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not moved and moved, respectively. The base title will redirect to Exorcist (disambiguation), at least for now. -- BDD ( talk) 20:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
– Similarly to The Godfather v. The Godfather (novel), this film has became more notable that the novel it is based on. In the search hits alone the film gets many times more than the novel, even when it is disambiguated, and the hits to the novel are likely people looking for the film. The film is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the search term with no doubt. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 16:19, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
~~Might be interesting to note in the plot summary that the film is set in 1975. In EXORCIST 3, they show Damien's headstone, and it clearly says he died in 1975. I'll post the date in the plot and hope it isn't deleted. Abbythecat.~~
~~I see someone removed the 1975 year, and that's fine. I don't know what "possessed" me to put it on there anyway. Yup, that's a cheap joke! Abbythecat~~
Earlier this month, Daniel Case changed the syntax of the film's RT approval rating from "83%" to "83 percent", citing MOS:%. Later, when I updated the Rotten Tomatoes data on the film, I changed it back to the percent sign for two main reasons:
Frankly, I don't see why the suggestion in MOS:% should supercede the standard set by Wikipedia's film articles, especially given that MOS:% merely says that use of the word percent in non-scientific articles is common, not that it should be used. Please allow the shorter character to keep carrying the score. Songwaters ( talk) 22:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Looking in the talk archives for MOS:FILM, I see that Songwaters has made his position clear in the only discussion of this there, but there are too few other participants to really say that this exception (and I do consider it as an exception that should be specifically articulated, as MOS:% does mention some other circumstances when the symbol can be used; note also that MOS:POUND makes a specific exception for that symbol to be used in giving the issue numbers of comic books not additionally numbered by volume) has projectwide consensus behind it.
I think this would really be better off discussed (and I can see some arguments for using the symbol in this context) at WT:DATE. There have been no discussions of this issue there; this 12-year-old proposal might include some room for making this exception as well. Daniel Case ( talk) 01:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus. Arguments which seem persuasive to support votes included WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and for simplicity. This is overall a messy situation/move with the (film series) article recreated and conflicting with the (franchise) article. As far as I can ascertain, these are 99% identical and duplicative, likely the result of a prior conversion from a redirect to a standalone branch. I'm going to convert the "film series" article into a redirect to the "(franchise)" after executing a round robin as a WP:BOLD edit that is separate from this move discussion, as it does not require consensus to do so. This action may be reverted, but keep in mind that the overall move was supported by consensus, so the move itself should not be reverted without a post-hoc move review and first discussing any issues with me. Always happy to discuss!( closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 11:31, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
First, rather than rely on Google hits, we have our own pageview data, which shows that the article about the film gets, on average, 13 times as many visits a day as the the article about the franchise (You only need to look at the y axis). This establishes rather beyond doubt that even if the book came first, the PRIMARYTOPIC here is the original movie. The public overwhelmingly associates the two words with Linda Blair bleeding all over her hospital gown, barfing pea soup all over Jason Miller, masturbating with a crucifix and telling him to sodomize her, in so many words. Why we feel that "(film)" is necessary for that is beyond me.
Second is the (ahem) unholy mess behind the second move, which is rather more of a merger since the two articles, again for reasons that are unclear, are largely duplicative of each other (itself a secondary argument for this whole move IMO). I think the idea was originally to have one for just the film series, but in July that was moved, apparently without awareness that the standalone title article exists as well, to cover the same subject of the franchise as a whole. Daniel Case ( talk) 20:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
And you can just as easily go the opposite way: Fight Club (discussion here and The Godfather, for instance (this was done so long ago that no discussion was needed at the time). The latter I would find particularly relevant to this discussion since it's around the same age, and can therefore be judged by a modern cultural context where the first film, based on a bestselling book, of what has become a series and even a franchise is now for the vast majority of modern readers the topic. Daniel Case ( talk) 21:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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This section states "Blatty, Schrader and von Sydow have all discounted such tales as nonsense". However Blatty is recorded on videotape talking about the on screen activities on the set. This has been edited when I put it on this website, even though it's Blatty's own words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6n0pgaYJVg
The "Responses" section could be expanded. This film was incredibly controversial in the canada, and the media speculated that it had driven viewers to suicide, etc. Certainly the reaction from some quarters bordered on the hysterical. I don't think the existing section really conveys how taboo the film was while banned. McPhail 00:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
>> I would also say that the 'mass hysteria' that this film produced is grossly under-rated in this article. It (the audience reaction) was a major news-story locally (was it covered in the national news?). I believe that this is a major gap in the article. The audience reaction was (and remains) a notable/unique cultural-event in and of itself.
The "Goofs" section seems lifted from IMDB, complete with "incorrectly regarded as goofs." 72.147.108.21 05:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
As well, the "trivia" section is word for word copied from IMDB. Should probably be rewritten. ~~Flora.
WOW! This article is pretty long, yet is lacks some good pictures from the film. Anyone want to consider adding some? Kill-bill-93 11:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Would you like to consider adding some? Yojimbo501 ( talk) 15:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Epecially considering that both the prequel films have their own articles here (which are linked within this article) there is entirely too much space devoted to the discussion of them here. That entire part of the "Sequels" section needs trimming. 12.22.250.4 20:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Dana Plato was never offered the role of Regan. Near the end of her life, Plato claimed she had been offered this role, but this is highly doubtful. She was about 7 years old when casting was taking place (several years younger than Linda Blair), and had no film, or television credits at the time. Until Plato herself made her claims, there was no documentation of her having any involvement with the film. William Peter Blatty himself has said that this was not true, and that he had never heard of her prior to these rumors, rumors perpetuated by herself.
Erin Moran from Happy Days also claims that she was up for the part, but her parents took her out of the running because of their religious beliefs.
I've also heard that the actress who played Buffy on Family Affair turned down the part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.242.34.129 ( talk) 22:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
From the Casting" section: "Anissa Jones, known for her role as Buffy in Family Affair, auditioned for the role, but she too was rejected, for much the same reason as Ferdin".
Since the article doesn't say for what reason Ferdin was rejected, that sentence doesn't make any sense.-- CRConrad ( talk) 23:57, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
The trivia sections (notably the Production and casting details and Reactions ones) needs to be moved out and integrated into new secions or existing section in the article (like Production and Reception). Also, this article needs to be written according to the WP:Films Style guidelines. Cbrown1023 21:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
The movie never specifically says "who" possessed Linda Blair.
So is there any source that says which specific demon possessed her? Anker99 04:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I’m not sure of the source, since I read it many years ago, but the demon possessing young Regan is called "Pazuzu". The description that I read described Pazuzu as a Demon of the “desert wind”. The desert wind is a pernicious thing, if you live in the desert. It dries you out, in a
land with sparse water. --
John richard leonard
06:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC)John_Richard_Leonard
"Pazuzu" or "Padzuzu" is a god of wind, and since he has a "banana" name, probably predates Babylonian myothology, but was adopted from an earlier culture (that's anthropological speculation). Pazusu is a god of wind, as others have stated, but more as a curse- a deity of foul winds and pestilence, a bringer of disease and desolation. [D. Sanders] —Preceding
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Additionally, Pazuzu can be seen both at the beginning and end of the film. First, Father Merrin recovers the remains of an idol of Pazuzu during the excavation scene at the beginning of the film, (many ancient Sumerian households kept such idols, believing that doing so would protect their women and children). At the end of the film, Pazuzu can again be scene when Regan breaks free of her restraints during the exorcism. Also, in the exteded version of the film, the image of Pazuzu can be seen when Regan's mother comes home and the lights are flickering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.31.23.32 ( talk) 15:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Exorcist&diff=prev&oldid=51702734
Hi, does the trivia section contain any info added by the edit above? I find some of the bits difficult to believe. (Rome?) -- Kjoon lee 04:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
The one-paragraph plot section was simply cut and pasted from the Internet Movie Database. While IMDB has been cited in the references as being the source, wikipedia guidelines clearly state: "Do not copy text from other websites without permission. It will be deleted." Somebody familiar with the film's narrative needs to rewrite/expand the plot section.- Hal Raglan 14:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Looks like somebody tried to address this, but the result was a mess. I've cleaned it up some. Minaker 10:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The article claims that "following a successful re-release in cinemas in 1998, the film was resubmitted and was passed uncut with an 18 certificate rating in 1999, signifying a relaxation of the censorship rules with relation to home video in the UK. The movie was shown on UK television for the first time in 2001, on Channel 4. This led to Exorcist Bus Trips where enterprising travel companies organized buses to take groups to the nearest town where the film was showing." This is highly unlikely to be true, since Channel 4 is a free-to-air terrestrial channel broadcast throughout England and Scotland. I suppose there may be a few parts of Wales that couldn't see it, due to Channel 4 being replaced there by S4C. However, it would seem more likely that the Exorcist Bus Trips are a reference to the cinema re-release. - 86.146.46.45 14:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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"Both the film and novel took inspirations from a documented exorcism in 1949, performed on a 12 year old boy." That is an extremely intriguing sentence, but would be better with a fact citation. It would actually considerably enhance the article if more information about this reported exorcism could be included (see for example Jaws (film) and Jersey Shore Shark Attacks of 1916). -- Legis ( talk - contribs) 14:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
There are no facts, other than the claims of the bishops, who performed the "exorcism" over the little boy. The movie, "Exorcist", played an unfortunate role in the case of Anneliese Michel, who eventually died as a result of the efforts to exorcise a demon that was not there. Check the wikipedia site for Anneliese Michel. The case of Anneliese Michel was used as inspiration for the movie "Exorcism of Emily Rouse", 2003, claiming that is based on the "true story" of Anneliese Michel. Go figure what is true and what is fake!
writing separately from the above unsigned statement, which is not mine - The statement indicating that Father Halloran denied witnessing any supernatural events is contrary to the article on the exorcism of Roland Doe in Wikipedia, and further is contrary to an interview with the director of the film describing his conversations with the priests involved and his reading of the diaries, including in an interview on NPR which aired today, 4/29/13. Given that it is not sourced, and is over-sweeping and contrary to the documentation cited in the separate article on Wikipedia and the director of the film itself, should it not be removed and/or tempered by Halloran's actual statements as recorded? Sorry I don't know the correct citation formats for these sources or I would fix it myself ShelbysLamb ( talk) 19:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Screamers have become a popular part of the internet, and most of the images on them are from the Exorcist. Shouldn't this be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.21.186 ( talk) 18:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
IMHO Ghostbusters ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters) refernces The Exorcist - the part where Dana levatates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkstar24 ( talk • contribs) 15:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The section referencing " subliminal" images in this article is problematic. I understand that the source you listed refers to the quick, scary flashes of the demon as "subliminal", and even quotes Friedkin himself as calling them "subliminal" edits - but they are not. Subliminal imagery is by definition not visible by the naked eye. The rapid flashes of the demonic face in "The Exorcist" are not "subliminal" at all. Mentioning that the film was "accused" of subliminal editing is a good illustration of the hysteria that surrounded the movie, and perhaps well placed under "reception", but it is misleading to refer to those fast edits as subliminal. If you must include the reference to that controversy/article, can you please make sure that this distinction is kept clear and not deleted again. Regardless of the accusations there was never any actual subliminal imagery in "The Exorcist". ShirleyPartridge ( talk) 06:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
ShirleyPatridge, your seething sarcasm cannot disguise your continuing confusion regarding one of the main topics at hand: Reliable Sourcing. I have provided you with the link to the policy repeatedly above; please read it at least once, as it is one of the core policies of Wikipedia. Video Watchdog, despite your bizarre hatred of that publication, is a reliable source. It fits all the requirements noted in the policy. The Dark Romance website does not. Again, please read and attempt to comprehend the RS policy before making any more "amusing" commentary regarding your personal theory as to what constitutes an adequate RS.- Hal Raglan ( talk) 00:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
From a six-years-later, not-involved-in-the-original-discussion, just-stumbling-across-the-article perspective: If Reliable Sourcing is so dang important to Hal Raglan, then why wasn't he campaigning just as vigorously for the claims that there was subliminal editing going on to be verified by reliable sources? Yeah, sure, it could probably very well be verified by utterly Reliable Sources that someone said there was subliminal editing. But putting up "someone said this-and-that", uncontested, when you well know that "this-and-that" is untrue, that is pretty fucking obvious weasel-wording (or some such; I'm sure it has its own policy page), designed to make naive readers think "this-and-that" is actually what we're saying. You can't seriously claim that this was not yet thought of in 2008, or are you? So, in sum, yammering about ShirleyPatridge's "seething sarcasm" seems pretty darn whiney -- not that I could really see much "seething sarcasm", but had there been any, it would IMO have been well deserved on the merits. -- 62.78.146.58 ( talk) 23:30, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Here: http://captainhowdy.com/?page_id=4 Wfgh66 ( talk) 23:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
BTW, I have never managed to watch this film without falling asleep. I think it's boring. Wfgh66 ( talk) 23:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Regarding subliminal images, I removed the recently-added sentence that said "As far as the FCC is concerned (to prevent subliminal advertising), subliminal images are under 1/24 of a second, which is faster than the eye can perceive, with a framerate of 24 frames per second". The sentence was unsourced and casual research seems to suggest that the FCC "has no rules on what is, or is not, a "subliminal" message" (see [3]).
I could find no authoritative source to counter that. However, if this was a mistake, please feel free to re-add the sentence along with a citation.
Thanks! - Clueless ( talk) 01:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
can someone with a good print or reliable transfer of the movie, in its original form, confirm whether or not there are any single-frame (1/24th second duration) images in the flick or not? then we can put this the fuck to bed. that's all it needs. single-frame shots in the movie, or not. nothing else passes any technical definition of 'subliminal', per FCC, OfCom or any other film/tv regulatory body.
duncanrmi ( talk) 09:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
About 75% of this article reads like the IMDB listing. There should be a WikiMovies site, and films need to start being left off of this "encyclopedia" - eh. Melia Nymph ( talk) 03:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Damien Karas is said to be Greek in both the book and the movie, and this is shown by his mother and uncle, the Greek radio station playing in his mom's apartment, etc. Why would a devout Greek kid become a Roman Catholic priest and not go into the holy orders of the Greek Orthodox Church? 45750born ( talk) 20:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Originally, gross data was cited from the-number.com, which seems to count only the initial release of the film. Box Office Mojo counts re-releases as well, appropriate here since the article covers all releases. I updated the article with data from the latter. +sj + 08:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
This isn't necessarily an important discussion point, but is it just me, or are the names of all cast members emboldened?? Just checking before making any changes. Sudhir R 14:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
In Casting section, one actress rejected "much the same reason as Ferdin", but reason why Ferdin rejected is missing (presumably edited out in the past). • Serviceable† Villain 00:07, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm unable to divine what is meant by, "The actual events likely to have occurred (such as words being carved on skin) being those that a young man could simply fake by himself, though the case attracted a great deal of notoriety."
Bad paste job?
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Abbythecat ( talk) 01:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)Under related films, it says the astronaut in THE NINTH CONFIGURATION is the nameless astronaut at Chris' party in THE EXORCIST movie. The astronaut isn't named in THE EXORCIST. Is it right to assume he's the same astronaut in NINTH just because both characters are astronauts? I won't remove it ... but maybe someone should ...? Abbythecat Abbythecat ( talk) 01:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
I removed Mike Oldfield from the infobox, as he is not the credited composer. However, different sources give different information, and I wonder if Jack Nitzsche shouldn't be removed as well. IMDb lists no credited composer, while TCM database lists compositions by 6 different composers, including Nitzsche, Oldfield, Webern, and Penderecki. AllMovie lists only Nitzsche. With different sources disagreeing, perhaps the infobox field should be left blank and the matter discussed in the production section. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 13:51, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
only nitzsche is or should be listed as having composed original music for the flick, & it was only incidental music. the main themes & so forth were curated by the music editor (eugene marks, for the original version) from existing works (e.g. 'tubular bells' & so on). imdb does list nitzsche in fact, but imdb content is inadmissible here because wp rules. the actual movie credits were used to populate imdb's entry, but that isn't good enough for wp because audit trail or something.
duncanrmi ( talk) 09:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Amid my recent spate of edits and improvements to the article (something I did not expect I'd be doing) following my creation of Paul Bateson, I have begun to grow skeptical of the idea that some theaters handed out special "Exorcist" barf bags.
All the sources I found that we might remotely consider reliable are modern ones, usually compilations of yes-really facts about The Exorcist on its release anniversaries. Contemporary sources, while they do mention nausea as a common audience reaction, do not state anywhere I have been able to find that theaters handed out barf bags, let alone branded ones. I also note that the article about sickness bags, linked above, has an unsourced (soon to be tagged as such) claim that they were handed out as a promotional gimmick at exploitation horror films of the era—perhaps this is where this might have come from? ( Or not)
The closest I've come to anything that supports this claims is the cover of the Mad issue that parodied the film, featuring what seems to be an actual photograph (rather than an illustration) of an Exorcist-specific barf bag. Maybe this is what people today are remembering?
I will have to modify this part appropriately, but if anyone can find a better source, from the time of the movie's release, demonstrating that theaters a) actually did keep airsickness bags in stock and even b) that these were branded, now's the time. Daniel Case ( talk) 19:20, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
This, to me, suggests it's an urban myth. Daniel Case ( talk) 03:50, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
However, my original question has still not been answered definitively. Yes, it is beyond dispute that people puked their guts out in great numbers while watching the film (one of my sources suggests, interestingly, that it might have been the result of overidentification with Regan rather than anything that actually disgusted them that much). But ... did theaters at the time of its release actually hand out branded barf bags? I haven't seen any source from that time explicitly saying this, and I'm inclined to believe that people in later years are sort of embellishing their memories. Daniel Case ( talk) 03:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Daniel Case What about "Legal disputes" instead of "Studio litigation against alleged imitators"? I was trying to make section headings more concise to ease readability. Mitchumch ( talk) 17:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Not sure if it's relevant, but I lived near Georgetown in the 1980's and walked "the steps" several times. At the top was a house (bungalow?) which was completely boarded off on the sides. I often wondered whether this was the actual house used in the filming of the Carras death, or simply occupants sick of film fans peering in. Hanoi Road ( talk) 01:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Daniel Case has introduced loads of extra information in the lede including a "cultural conversation around religion" and details of awards that the film won. Not that it makes me or my argument any special, but I was the original author of much of the lede that survived for what seemed to be years. I think his additions are interesting, but belong in the article body, not the lede which is getting bloated. He seems tenacious in reverting to his additions, and I'm not engaging into yet another edit war of any sort. So you guys be the judge: shorter or longer lede. ᴳᴿᴲᴳᴼᴿᴵᴷ☺ ᶤᶯᵈᶸᶩᶢᵉ 16:34, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I believe this to be in keeping with MOS:INTRO: "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article ... Consideration should be given to creating interest in the article, but do not hint at startling facts without describing them." If my wording could be tightened, or if it's overly specific, I'm open to reading arguments about that, but I think things like the way the movie just took the country by storm and the discussions around Catholicism and the film's rating should be alluded to in the intro; as for the awards, I think it is significant enough that it was the first horror film to get a Best Picture nod should be mentioned in the intro, and as with a lot of other films that have won one or two Oscars in their year we usually mention those in the intro as well.
I am very religious about what MOS:LEADLENGTH says about intros not being longer than four grafs; I have written/expanded many articles and their corresponding intros and believe me, with a long enough article, you're working to get the broad outline covered within those four grafs and deliver a coherent narrative. I could understand if one or more grafs were "unreasonably long" per MOS:INTRO, but I don't think they are here (remember they may look a little longer since the infobox is squeezing them a bit).
I also don't see anything in our policies about how the length of time an intro has stood unedited has to be taken into consideration when editing it following an expansion; indeed, that's the whole point of Wikipedia—that what has been done, no matter how satisfied the community is with it, can always be improved, especially if some time has passed (I was at a conference in my capacity as a lacrosse referee over the weekend, and a similar ethos was promulgated: "If you think you've called a perfect game, you've called your last game." Likewise, here, if you think you've edited an article to beyond any possibility of improvement, then you should stop editing articles). Daniel Case ( talk) 21:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
The movie ending, as described in the article, is the one from the 2000 version, not the original 1973 one. Has "The Version You've Never Seen" become the de facto version of the film? Alvabass ( talk) 02:26, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
There are several spoofs of the Father Merrin character - notably one by actor James Woods - in which he is invariably depicted as an Irishman. Von Sydow's accent in the film could very easily be construed as Irish (it would actually be quite difficult to describe it as anything other than that). Is anyone aware of any source for his country of origin? Is it mentioned in the book? Hanoi Road ( talk) 00:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not moved and moved, respectively. The base title will redirect to Exorcist (disambiguation), at least for now. -- BDD ( talk) 20:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
– Similarly to The Godfather v. The Godfather (novel), this film has became more notable that the novel it is based on. In the search hits alone the film gets many times more than the novel, even when it is disambiguated, and the hits to the novel are likely people looking for the film. The film is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the search term with no doubt. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 16:19, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
~~Might be interesting to note in the plot summary that the film is set in 1975. In EXORCIST 3, they show Damien's headstone, and it clearly says he died in 1975. I'll post the date in the plot and hope it isn't deleted. Abbythecat.~~
~~I see someone removed the 1975 year, and that's fine. I don't know what "possessed" me to put it on there anyway. Yup, that's a cheap joke! Abbythecat~~
Earlier this month, Daniel Case changed the syntax of the film's RT approval rating from "83%" to "83 percent", citing MOS:%. Later, when I updated the Rotten Tomatoes data on the film, I changed it back to the percent sign for two main reasons:
Frankly, I don't see why the suggestion in MOS:% should supercede the standard set by Wikipedia's film articles, especially given that MOS:% merely says that use of the word percent in non-scientific articles is common, not that it should be used. Please allow the shorter character to keep carrying the score. Songwaters ( talk) 22:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Looking in the talk archives for MOS:FILM, I see that Songwaters has made his position clear in the only discussion of this there, but there are too few other participants to really say that this exception (and I do consider it as an exception that should be specifically articulated, as MOS:% does mention some other circumstances when the symbol can be used; note also that MOS:POUND makes a specific exception for that symbol to be used in giving the issue numbers of comic books not additionally numbered by volume) has projectwide consensus behind it.
I think this would really be better off discussed (and I can see some arguments for using the symbol in this context) at WT:DATE. There have been no discussions of this issue there; this 12-year-old proposal might include some room for making this exception as well. Daniel Case ( talk) 01:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus. Arguments which seem persuasive to support votes included WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and for simplicity. This is overall a messy situation/move with the (film series) article recreated and conflicting with the (franchise) article. As far as I can ascertain, these are 99% identical and duplicative, likely the result of a prior conversion from a redirect to a standalone branch. I'm going to convert the "film series" article into a redirect to the "(franchise)" after executing a round robin as a WP:BOLD edit that is separate from this move discussion, as it does not require consensus to do so. This action may be reverted, but keep in mind that the overall move was supported by consensus, so the move itself should not be reverted without a post-hoc move review and first discussing any issues with me. Always happy to discuss!( closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 11:31, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
First, rather than rely on Google hits, we have our own pageview data, which shows that the article about the film gets, on average, 13 times as many visits a day as the the article about the franchise (You only need to look at the y axis). This establishes rather beyond doubt that even if the book came first, the PRIMARYTOPIC here is the original movie. The public overwhelmingly associates the two words with Linda Blair bleeding all over her hospital gown, barfing pea soup all over Jason Miller, masturbating with a crucifix and telling him to sodomize her, in so many words. Why we feel that "(film)" is necessary for that is beyond me.
Second is the (ahem) unholy mess behind the second move, which is rather more of a merger since the two articles, again for reasons that are unclear, are largely duplicative of each other (itself a secondary argument for this whole move IMO). I think the idea was originally to have one for just the film series, but in July that was moved, apparently without awareness that the standalone title article exists as well, to cover the same subject of the franchise as a whole. Daniel Case ( talk) 20:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
And you can just as easily go the opposite way: Fight Club (discussion here and The Godfather, for instance (this was done so long ago that no discussion was needed at the time). The latter I would find particularly relevant to this discussion since it's around the same age, and can therefore be judged by a modern cultural context where the first film, based on a bestselling book, of what has become a series and even a franchise is now for the vast majority of modern readers the topic. Daniel Case ( talk) 21:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)