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Anyone spot a 'Bad Wolf' reference this episode? I didn't but am sure there must have been one... I'm perturbed by rumours that the actual 'Bad Wolf' episode will feature Dr Who in the Big Brother House, and rumours abounding that the whole series has been one big reality TV show. It reminds me of the cop-out 'and then they woke up and it was all a dream' story endings my English teachers used to rightly critisise me for at school... quercus robur 00:56, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
I have VfDed his article, too minor. Pete Tyler was borderline, but this guy only appears for 10 minutes. Tim! ( talk) 08:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Psychic paper has also been VfD'd. -- khaosworks 13:30, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
Been doing a little googling on this and on Wikipedia, but it occurs to me that the "Captain" rank that Jack assumes, even if he's taking it to mean " Squadron Leader" (and not Group Captain), is still not the rank that commands a squadron (which is Wing Commander. So the unusualness of it stated in the note, that the squadrons were commanded by British and/or Commonwealth officers may not actually apply to Jack, if you see what I mean... unless during WW II, Squadron Leaders really did lead squadrons - I don't know.
I don't have my reference books on hand (packed up in preperation for a move), so could someone could check on this and figure out/confirm what the right way to phrase the note is? -- khaosworks 13:21, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
Are you sure about the time agent? My recall is that for Greel the experiments were just that - new technology and he used the time cabinet to escape the attacking forces at Reyjavik. GraemeLeggett 08:31, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Here's the note:
My point is that it makes absolutely no sense for the Doctor to be uneasy about telephones in general - it's patently obvious that he's reacting to the fact that a supposedly non-functioning phone is somehow functioning, hence his puzzlement and uneasiness. If a toy phone in your kid's playroom started ringing, you'd be puzzled and uneasy, too. -- khaosworks ( talk • contribs) 08:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
In the Production section, the following appears:
"The sound of Dr Constantine's skull cracking as his face changes into a gas mask was considered too horrific in its full form by the production team and was cut before broadcast. However, writer Steven Moffat claims on the DVD commentary to this episode that the sound was discussed but never put on."
My memory of the episode is that the cracking sound was heard during Dr Constantine's transformation in the broadcast episode, but almost completely removed by the time of subsequent airings on BBC3 due to complaints received by the BBC. Can anyone confirm/deny, perhaps with a source? I remember seeing stories to this effect, but the BBC website is no help; their search facility was seemingly designed in 1983. It's one of my strongest memories of the episode in fact, and I'm always disappointed by its absence when I watch the repeats. - Liquidfinale 20:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
'succombs' should be 'succumbs' PaulDavidSumner ( talk) 00:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
"During the scene in the nightclub, the actor Jamie Foreman who played the character of Eddie Connoly in "The Idiot's Lantern" can be glimpsed. As the two stories take place only 11 years apart, this may be a cameo by the same character." If it is, it's a retcon, as The Idiot's Lantern is from the following year! The episode wouldn't have been written yet at the time! Digifiend ( talk) 09:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the comment about Little Red Riding Hood. I see it as irrelevant and O.R. Cheers xxx W.G.Dude ( talk) 15:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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Myself and another anonymous editor have both put Jack Harkness further down in the cast list. This is because at the end of the episode he is credited towards the bottom of the roll. This edit is repeatedly reverted by DonQuixote but it’s clear that Captain Jack does not play the role of a companion until his later appearances alongside the Tenth Doctor. So shouldn’t Jack be credited down in the “others” part? Panda815 ( talk) 11:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Discussion continued at Talk:The Doctor Dances Panda815 ( talk) 12:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Anyone spot a 'Bad Wolf' reference this episode? I didn't but am sure there must have been one... I'm perturbed by rumours that the actual 'Bad Wolf' episode will feature Dr Who in the Big Brother House, and rumours abounding that the whole series has been one big reality TV show. It reminds me of the cop-out 'and then they woke up and it was all a dream' story endings my English teachers used to rightly critisise me for at school... quercus robur 00:56, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
I have VfDed his article, too minor. Pete Tyler was borderline, but this guy only appears for 10 minutes. Tim! ( talk) 08:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Psychic paper has also been VfD'd. -- khaosworks 13:30, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
Been doing a little googling on this and on Wikipedia, but it occurs to me that the "Captain" rank that Jack assumes, even if he's taking it to mean " Squadron Leader" (and not Group Captain), is still not the rank that commands a squadron (which is Wing Commander. So the unusualness of it stated in the note, that the squadrons were commanded by British and/or Commonwealth officers may not actually apply to Jack, if you see what I mean... unless during WW II, Squadron Leaders really did lead squadrons - I don't know.
I don't have my reference books on hand (packed up in preperation for a move), so could someone could check on this and figure out/confirm what the right way to phrase the note is? -- khaosworks 13:21, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
Are you sure about the time agent? My recall is that for Greel the experiments were just that - new technology and he used the time cabinet to escape the attacking forces at Reyjavik. GraemeLeggett 08:31, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Here's the note:
My point is that it makes absolutely no sense for the Doctor to be uneasy about telephones in general - it's patently obvious that he's reacting to the fact that a supposedly non-functioning phone is somehow functioning, hence his puzzlement and uneasiness. If a toy phone in your kid's playroom started ringing, you'd be puzzled and uneasy, too. -- khaosworks ( talk • contribs) 08:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
In the Production section, the following appears:
"The sound of Dr Constantine's skull cracking as his face changes into a gas mask was considered too horrific in its full form by the production team and was cut before broadcast. However, writer Steven Moffat claims on the DVD commentary to this episode that the sound was discussed but never put on."
My memory of the episode is that the cracking sound was heard during Dr Constantine's transformation in the broadcast episode, but almost completely removed by the time of subsequent airings on BBC3 due to complaints received by the BBC. Can anyone confirm/deny, perhaps with a source? I remember seeing stories to this effect, but the BBC website is no help; their search facility was seemingly designed in 1983. It's one of my strongest memories of the episode in fact, and I'm always disappointed by its absence when I watch the repeats. - Liquidfinale 20:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
'succombs' should be 'succumbs' PaulDavidSumner ( talk) 00:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
"During the scene in the nightclub, the actor Jamie Foreman who played the character of Eddie Connoly in "The Idiot's Lantern" can be glimpsed. As the two stories take place only 11 years apart, this may be a cameo by the same character." If it is, it's a retcon, as The Idiot's Lantern is from the following year! The episode wouldn't have been written yet at the time! Digifiend ( talk) 09:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the comment about Little Red Riding Hood. I see it as irrelevant and O.R. Cheers xxx W.G.Dude ( talk) 15:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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Myself and another anonymous editor have both put Jack Harkness further down in the cast list. This is because at the end of the episode he is credited towards the bottom of the roll. This edit is repeatedly reverted by DonQuixote but it’s clear that Captain Jack does not play the role of a companion until his later appearances alongside the Tenth Doctor. So shouldn’t Jack be credited down in the “others” part? Panda815 ( talk) 11:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Discussion continued at Talk:The Doctor Dances Panda815 ( talk) 12:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)