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Virtuoso is an episode in which the Doctor has the focus of the story. It should be included in the list of episodes in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuoso_%28Star_Trek:_Voyager%29 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xilliah ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm tucking this in here. Just wanted to point out that in Season 6 ep 12 "Blink of an Eye," (the episode just before this one) the Doctor mentions that he had a son while on a three year away mission (actually a much shorter time—hours or days) to a planet that existed in a sped up reality. I assume the boy was adopted, but little more was mentioned of it. I'd say this is worth putting in the main article since is talks about his relationships and eventual wife. JPhilipW ( talk) 23:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Should this be merged with Emergency Medical Hologram?-- Sonjaaa 04:04, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)
If the articles are not merged, the information about the EMH in Star Trek: First Contact does not belong in this article, and should instead be in the EMH article instead, as the Voyager Doctor, though the same in appearance, is characteristically distinct from Robert Picardo's role in First Contact.-- Jeffro77 09:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Note: I removed Sherool's comment on this talk page and pasted his bit from the other talk page so that discussion is happening in only one talk page. Cburnett 05:54, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
The article states about "Please state the nature...":
I got the impression that he was always programmed to say this, but as his higher faculties came online he was able to will the phrase to stop--as his personality developed, it became more likely he would want to do so. Which is correct? Alksub 17:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I think I remember an aside in either season one or season two where the Doctor is activated, and says the phrase and a crewmember (I think B'Elanna) says something like "I thought we made it so that you didn't have to say that any more". I'll rewatch seasons one and two if nobody else remembers this piece of dialogue. Furby100 23:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
In "The Cloud" B'Elanna asks why he always says it, states that she knows a bit about holoprogramming and offers to reprogram him not to say it (around 21 minutes and 20 seconds into the episode). In "State of Flux" the Doctor is activated by Chakotay (around 38 minutes and 30 seconds into the episode) and does not say his catchphrase. When he is activated in "Projections" (right at the start of the episode) he does say it, so this could be when he decided to change it back. However, this occurs in what is essentially the Doctor's dream, so may not 'count'. In "Tattoo", the Doctor is activated by Kes (about 12 minutes and 25 seconds into the episode), says the phrase and then Kes asks him why he still says it when 'we' changed his program so that he wouldn't have to say it any more. He then says that he restored it because he became uncomfortable thinking of new ways to 'break the ice'. Since Kes refers to the Doctor's program being changed and B'Elanna talks about holoprogramming, I think the article is correct as it stands. If there are no objections, I shall remove the disputed statement template and refer to "the Cloud" and "Tattoo" in the article. Furby100 16:02, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
It'd be fun to put together a complete list of references to "I'm a doctor, not a X", by not only The Doctor but also all of the other Trek doctors. joo-yoon 19:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
There is one of those at Memory Alpha's page, "I'm a doctor, not a..." Mr. Granger 00:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking this section could be rewritten, after all there was technically only one backup copy. And it did take place 700 years in the future (or to be technical, even further then that, according to the last few minutes).
So the fact the backup copy was real was only due to a story being presented to people living far, far in the future. Can the backup copy really be considered canon at all?
I propose 'In episode Such and Such, a backup copy of the Doctor was a vital plot device but blah blah something something, potential future'.
Lots42 21:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
The article says, "In the series finale, one future is shown where he has chosen the name "Joe." The events of that episode involve changing history, however; thus this name cannot be considered canonical." Clearly, one cannot say that the Doctor's name is Joe throughout the series, but I don't see any problem with the alternate future being in canon.
The 'Backup Copies' section as it is seems to be original research. Or maybe I am completely misunderstanding it...it definitely needs citations of -some- sort; it's just that it's vey difficult to understand it. Limited memory? What? Lots42 ( talk) 09:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
The Doctor on the Star Trek: Next Generation movie is not the same character as the Voyager Doctor. Lots42 ( talk) 02:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I understand the desire to post as much detail as possible however maybe we should try to keep this an easy read for the general public; especially considering the above notes. In depth, excessive and heavy details are better suited at memory alpha. When someone just backs up to an early edition because they do not like being edited or disagree, it returns the article to, according to wiki, an undesirablly intricate, heavily detailed and redundant piece. "Its an article not a documentary" ;-) 66.229.212.172 ( talk) 01:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
IIRC, there was an episode where Paris and the Doctor faced intruders. The Doc was having an ethical conondrum because he didn't want to hurt the intruders, yet wanted to save his friend. Someone came up with the idea of him simply sedating the intruders and it worked wonderfully. If I am remembering this correctly, I think this is worthy of being added in. Lots42 ( talk) 03:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
This is the redirect target for Emergency Medical Hologram as well. I think there should be 1) References to other EMH's, like the one on the Prometheus and the one based on Dr. Bashier, etc. or 2) Break out a disambiguation page of the various EHM's, with this page referring strictly to the EHM Mark 1. Nutster ( talk) 21:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
As I understood it, the problem with Ensign Jetal is that the Doctor chose a -person- to die. Not that he chose Harry because he was more of a friend. I hope I am making myself clear. Lots42 ( talk) 12:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely the “Species” of such a character should be ‘ Artificial Intelligence’, or something along the lines of a software algorithm, rather than the mere physical manifestation (holography is only the means of presentation/appearance)? One reason for retaining this distinction is to differentiate between other AI characters which are not holograms ( Holly (Red Dwarf) comes to mind) — Lee Carré ( talk) 18:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 00:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who#Redirecting 'The Doctor' to Doctor Who's 'The Doctor' about that thing it says in the link, and to link to this Doctor in a hatnote. — 174.141.182.82 ( talk) 15:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 12:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Doctor (Star Trek: Voyager) → The Doctor (Star Trek: Voyager) – Per Talk:The Doctor (Doctor Who)#Requested move 20 April 2015 - this character is known as "The Doctor" too. --Relisted. George Ho ( talk) 03:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC) Unreal7 ( talk) 15:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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simply reverting to past edition as you may not agree with some edits, note you also revert to the wiki note:" This Star Trek-related article or section describes an aspect of Star Trek in a primarily in-universe style. Please rewrite this article or section to explain the fiction more clearly and provide non-fictional perspective.
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Virtuoso is an episode in which the Doctor has the focus of the story. It should be included in the list of episodes in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuoso_%28Star_Trek:_Voyager%29 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xilliah ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm tucking this in here. Just wanted to point out that in Season 6 ep 12 "Blink of an Eye," (the episode just before this one) the Doctor mentions that he had a son while on a three year away mission (actually a much shorter time—hours or days) to a planet that existed in a sped up reality. I assume the boy was adopted, but little more was mentioned of it. I'd say this is worth putting in the main article since is talks about his relationships and eventual wife. JPhilipW ( talk) 23:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Should this be merged with Emergency Medical Hologram?-- Sonjaaa 04:04, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)
If the articles are not merged, the information about the EMH in Star Trek: First Contact does not belong in this article, and should instead be in the EMH article instead, as the Voyager Doctor, though the same in appearance, is characteristically distinct from Robert Picardo's role in First Contact.-- Jeffro77 09:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Note: I removed Sherool's comment on this talk page and pasted his bit from the other talk page so that discussion is happening in only one talk page. Cburnett 05:54, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
The article states about "Please state the nature...":
I got the impression that he was always programmed to say this, but as his higher faculties came online he was able to will the phrase to stop--as his personality developed, it became more likely he would want to do so. Which is correct? Alksub 17:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I think I remember an aside in either season one or season two where the Doctor is activated, and says the phrase and a crewmember (I think B'Elanna) says something like "I thought we made it so that you didn't have to say that any more". I'll rewatch seasons one and two if nobody else remembers this piece of dialogue. Furby100 23:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
In "The Cloud" B'Elanna asks why he always says it, states that she knows a bit about holoprogramming and offers to reprogram him not to say it (around 21 minutes and 20 seconds into the episode). In "State of Flux" the Doctor is activated by Chakotay (around 38 minutes and 30 seconds into the episode) and does not say his catchphrase. When he is activated in "Projections" (right at the start of the episode) he does say it, so this could be when he decided to change it back. However, this occurs in what is essentially the Doctor's dream, so may not 'count'. In "Tattoo", the Doctor is activated by Kes (about 12 minutes and 25 seconds into the episode), says the phrase and then Kes asks him why he still says it when 'we' changed his program so that he wouldn't have to say it any more. He then says that he restored it because he became uncomfortable thinking of new ways to 'break the ice'. Since Kes refers to the Doctor's program being changed and B'Elanna talks about holoprogramming, I think the article is correct as it stands. If there are no objections, I shall remove the disputed statement template and refer to "the Cloud" and "Tattoo" in the article. Furby100 16:02, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
It'd be fun to put together a complete list of references to "I'm a doctor, not a X", by not only The Doctor but also all of the other Trek doctors. joo-yoon 19:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
There is one of those at Memory Alpha's page, "I'm a doctor, not a..." Mr. Granger 00:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking this section could be rewritten, after all there was technically only one backup copy. And it did take place 700 years in the future (or to be technical, even further then that, according to the last few minutes).
So the fact the backup copy was real was only due to a story being presented to people living far, far in the future. Can the backup copy really be considered canon at all?
I propose 'In episode Such and Such, a backup copy of the Doctor was a vital plot device but blah blah something something, potential future'.
Lots42 21:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
The article says, "In the series finale, one future is shown where he has chosen the name "Joe." The events of that episode involve changing history, however; thus this name cannot be considered canonical." Clearly, one cannot say that the Doctor's name is Joe throughout the series, but I don't see any problem with the alternate future being in canon.
The 'Backup Copies' section as it is seems to be original research. Or maybe I am completely misunderstanding it...it definitely needs citations of -some- sort; it's just that it's vey difficult to understand it. Limited memory? What? Lots42 ( talk) 09:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
The Doctor on the Star Trek: Next Generation movie is not the same character as the Voyager Doctor. Lots42 ( talk) 02:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I understand the desire to post as much detail as possible however maybe we should try to keep this an easy read for the general public; especially considering the above notes. In depth, excessive and heavy details are better suited at memory alpha. When someone just backs up to an early edition because they do not like being edited or disagree, it returns the article to, according to wiki, an undesirablly intricate, heavily detailed and redundant piece. "Its an article not a documentary" ;-) 66.229.212.172 ( talk) 01:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
IIRC, there was an episode where Paris and the Doctor faced intruders. The Doc was having an ethical conondrum because he didn't want to hurt the intruders, yet wanted to save his friend. Someone came up with the idea of him simply sedating the intruders and it worked wonderfully. If I am remembering this correctly, I think this is worthy of being added in. Lots42 ( talk) 03:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
This is the redirect target for Emergency Medical Hologram as well. I think there should be 1) References to other EMH's, like the one on the Prometheus and the one based on Dr. Bashier, etc. or 2) Break out a disambiguation page of the various EHM's, with this page referring strictly to the EHM Mark 1. Nutster ( talk) 21:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
As I understood it, the problem with Ensign Jetal is that the Doctor chose a -person- to die. Not that he chose Harry because he was more of a friend. I hope I am making myself clear. Lots42 ( talk) 12:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely the “Species” of such a character should be ‘ Artificial Intelligence’, or something along the lines of a software algorithm, rather than the mere physical manifestation (holography is only the means of presentation/appearance)? One reason for retaining this distinction is to differentiate between other AI characters which are not holograms ( Holly (Red Dwarf) comes to mind) — Lee Carré ( talk) 18:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 00:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Doctor (Star Trek) →
Doctor (Star Trek: Voyager) – The title 'Doctor (Star Trek)' is too ambiguous.
Eladkse (
talk) 19:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who#Redirecting 'The Doctor' to Doctor Who's 'The Doctor' about that thing it says in the link, and to link to this Doctor in a hatnote. — 174.141.182.82 ( talk) 15:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 12:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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