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He is one of the better interviewers we have, and I think something should be said about it in this article, no? See this. – Muboshgu ( talk) 13:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
In the introduction the article currently includes the following: "Critics, including series co-creator Lizz Winstead (who has since changed her view[1]), have chastised Stewart for not conducting sufficiently hard-hitting interviews with his political guests, some of whom he may have previously lampooned in other segments.". The problems here are: 1) The Winstead criticism is acknowledged to have been withdrawn, so why bring it up? 2) the reference to the Winstead criticsm (or its withdrawl) is a dead link and 3) there are no other references to anyone else making this criticism. I suggest that either a reference to someone else who made this criticism be provided, or the criticism section here be deleted. I will wait a week, and if I do not see a reference provided will delete it. Gogh ( talk) 20:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
They are unfortunately ubiquitous on the show and have come to characterize it. They have moved beyond verbal references and are now increasingly graphically illustrated, in case viewers miss what is being referenced. Probably as many people (mainly young males who unaccountably can't get enough of this type of humor, but undoubtedly some women as well) watch the show for this penile wit as for the political commentary, and would sorely miss it if it stopped. Since it is so integral to the show and to Jon Stewart's mentality, it should be mentioned in the article, in my opinion. I agree with Indrian that there is no independent source for this fact, but a fact it is: one need only watch the show. Syzygos ( talk) 00:35, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
I chopped this paragraph, because none of the cites adequately support the statements they are attached to, and the long list of Democrat bureaucrats seems like OR, since no sources are provided. Although I have no doubt that they appeared on the show, we need a 3rd party who has counted them up (and also determined that Spellings was the only Bush era government guest). Ashmoo ( talk) 16:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
During both the Bush administration and the Obama administration, the liberal overtures of the show were not lost on politicans, as during the eight years of the George W. Bush administration, Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings was the only sitting cabinet member to appear on the show. The eight minute segment Spellings was on the show progressed largely without the "the more pointed jabs that the comedian routinely levels at Mr. Bush and his administration." [1] Within the first ten months of the Obama presidency, five cabinet secretaries and two cabinet level administrators appeared on the show: [2] Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebellius, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus and EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson.
Gotta agree with Xeworlebi..."Returning series" doesn't make much sense. Will have to check pages for other series to see what is generally used...something like "Active" seems better. Dk100 ( talk) 04:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I put the notability template in the Oliva Munn section. It is a striped down version of a section called "Accusations of Sexism" from last year. It's based on a blog, Jezebel, and the response from TDS. Since a blog is not an RS, and there seems to be no other source objecting to Munn, I think the whole section ought to be struck on the grounds that it is not notable and has no reliable sources. -- 76.18.43.253 ( talk) 22:19, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
This reference is unsorced and links to "news satire" page.
Satire is not false construction. It is exagerated commentary. Unless Comedy Central or John Steward, a producer or a writer has called in Fake it is empirically not fake. 83.70.170.48 ( talk) 10:06, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Both South Park and The Daily Show are claimed by Wikipedia to be the longest running program on Comedy Central. One of the statements must be wrong, and I am not allowed to edit the South Park page. This is a call for help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.246.47.135 ( talk) 13:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Can interested editors take a look at the following two articles and offer their opinions on whether they should be consolidated? (Same thing for 2001, 2011, and 2012)
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User:DKqwery legitimately reverted my edit on Stewart's incessant references to male genitals, since it wasn't documented by an independent source. However, this is a case of a Wikipedia policy being inadequately specified. One might as well demand a citation for the statement that air is transparent. Stewart appears to have similar propensities to his friend Anthony Weiner, which he is in a position to satisfy not privately online, but by publicly making joking references to, or showing representations of, his own and his co-genderists' sexual organs. Anyone not familiar with "The Daily Show", reading this article without the equivalent of my unexceptionable statement that "most episodes under Stewart's tenure include one or more references to penises or testicles" will have a very incomplete idea of the tone and content of the program. Syzygos ( talk) 00:14, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
What specific demographics does it discuss, it's just some unsourced discussion on being informed versus not being informed compared to PBS / Jim Lehrer and Bill O'Reilly. This should be deleted until more ratings data is provided or some more scientific explanation of "being informed" is detailed. Until then it is nebulous and irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.36.25 ( talk) 10:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely agree with the above comment. The section entitled "Demographics" mentions nothing about Demographics. Is anyone overseeing this page? -- Memarshall ( talk) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Came here to say the same thing. I'm going to give it a day or two and honestly might just remove the entire section. Beach drifter ( talk) 03:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
In the article's side bar, under the heading Chronology > Related Shows, it lists " Last Week Tonight with John Oliver". However, I don't see any commonalities, such as network, producers, writers, etc., other than Oliver being an alumnus of TDS and a similar format. It makes sense to list The Colbert Report as related, since it was directly spun off from TDS, but that isn't the case with John Oliver, so are they properly referred to as being "related"? -- 24.212.139.102 ( talk) 16:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Should "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" be added to the "Spin-Offs" section?
Unlike The Colbert Report and The Nightly Show, it's not an official spin-off in that it's not being produced by Jon Stewart's company/Comedy Central. So I don't think it qualifies, as related as it is. There is no official connection aside from the host being a former TDS correspondent. Ausir ( talk)
Interesting detailed information in this article:
Headline-1: How Jon Stewart turned lies into comedy and brainwashed a generation
QUOTE: "Though Stewart has often claimed he does a “fake news show,” “The Daily Show” isn’t that. It’s a real news show punctuated with puns, jokes, asides and the occasional moment of staged sanctimony. It contains real, unstaged sound bites about the days’ events and interviews about important policy matters. Stewart is a journalist: an irresponsible and unprofessional one." -- AstroU ( talk) 01:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
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I think this article should be similar to the page like The Tonight Show, Late Night, and Late Show should be. Then we should create a The Daily Show with Jon Stewart because by the time Trevor Noah takes over this page is going to get very crowded and it would make since if we split the pages into two. ( McQueen.30 ( talk) 00:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC))
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.255.153 ( talk) 09:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
I propose adding something like this (captioned photo at right) to the Studio section. Please edit or comment:
While we already have a photo from this show (both are public domain), this one shows off this set. A good addition or undue emphasis on this (presumably) once-used set just because we have a PD photo of it?-- Elvey( t• c) 14:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore is really not a direct spin-off of The Daily Show, I'd consider it more or less a spin-off or at least a replacement series for the Colbert Report which is a direct spin-off of TDS. I'd like to remove this section and move it to the Colbert Report but before I do that I'd like to get some opinions first on whether it should be done and in what manner that would be proper. Thanks. YborCityJohn ( talk) 04:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
The "toss" to Colbert section indicates that the toss was used on Colbert's final episode. Was there a toss done at the end of the Daily Show that night prior to Colbert? Or is this a reference to Stewart's appearance at the end of Colbert's last show? If the former, the wording here should be changed to something like "... and again to close the episode that aired before the final episode of The Colbert Report on December 18, 2014". If the latter, it shouldn't be mentioned at all, because the close of Colbert wasn't a "toss". TheHYPO ( talk) 14:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear fellow wikipedians, I believe it is time to spilt this article. With Jon Stewart's tenure as host is sadly done, it is time for this article to be similar to
The Late Show,
The Late Late Show,
The Tonight Show, and
Late Night. I mean Trevor Noah already has a page and Jon Stewart should have his own page and Carig Kilborn's should be similar to The Late Late Show. When September 28 comes, there should be two Daily Show pages.
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Hello, I have once again created The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, per the multiple split consensuses above. A reception section can definitely be added tomorrow. In the meantime, feel free to add additional information (history, etc.) there, since there has been significant coverage. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 19:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
New Host = New Article! Honestly, why is there so much resistance to creating separate articles? Mhoppmann ( talk) 02:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, Noah's already debuted at this point, and the article is starting to look pretty crowded accounting for now 3 hosts. The bare bones "Daily Show" should have basic info about the format (moment of zen, etc), accolades, while history of each respective tenure should be done the way the articles for the respective incarnations of The Tonight Show, The Late Show, etc. are. Fireflyfanboy ( talk) 06:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
There is currently no need to split the article. Noah has only been the host for 2 shows right now. There has been no significant change in format. Currently, this is listed as a Good Article. A Noah version article will only be a stub. The show is essentially the same exact show it was with Stewart. Game shows have many different hosts, and we never split those articles. Live! also only has one article despite the many hosts that it has have. Yes, Late night talk shows articles are often split by host, but unlike The Daily Show, they often have significant changes to the format when a new host takes over. And there is no official policy that says each host gets their own page. So, unless there becomes too much information about Noah's version of the show to fit into this single article, or someone makes an argument based in policy that successfully refutes the points that I already made, or there is a strong and clear consensus that the article needs to be split now, I will revert any attempt to split the page. JDDJS ( talk) 20:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
The show WILL change. Just because it isn't a completely different show now doesn't mean it will be in the future. In fact, the Daily Show will have to change just by virtue of Noah hosting it every night. BTW, the Daily Show is a Late Night show, so shouldn't it be treated the same as other late night shows? I think we should put the issue of whether to create a new page for Noah up for a vote. Mhoppmann ( talk) 16:50, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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Other late night shows have individual articles for each host, shouldn't TDS also do this for
This would be akin to
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This has been discussed before. WP:SIZESPLIT. The article is at a perfectly fine length right now, and this is listed as a good article. If we split the article, instead of having one good article, we'll just have several short articles. JDDJS ( talk) 23:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Quite a bit of this article still reads like Jon Stewart hosts the show. I've just gone through a couple sections, changed some uses of his name to "Noah" or "the host," and changed some verb tenses. Other sections, like "Production," still speak in the present tense about things Jon said about how the show worked at that time. You really can't even just rewrite that one, because it is very specific, and I doubt Noah works with the staff in exactly the same way. 2602:306:8320:AF00:ED07:9B97:963E:FEB0 ( talk) 23:20, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
Late Show has its own article for Colbert version so this should do same for Noah. He's been at it long enough. As had Jon. Ranze ( talk) 14:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I question this word choice: "...otherwise referred to as 9/11 First Responders Bill, which Stewart enumerated had been blocked by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell for political reasons."? There's no numbered list here, only the one bald statement. How about "revealed", "disclosed", or simply "said"? Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 04:28, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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In the opening sentence it says, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah was known as of 2016. He took over in 2015. 2600:387:8:9:0:0:0:80 ( talk) 22:08, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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Although dates are correct the image appears that Kilborn had longest tenure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.222.59.187 ( talk) 12:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
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Is the Daily Show categorized clearly as a far left show as the beginning of the text make it looks like ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passemort ( talk • contribs) 10:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
The rating section seems dated. I found this page [3]
with some more recent ratings -- Zaurus ( talk) 12:21, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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I've tagged this article for a Good Article reassessment, since many parts of it have clearly become outdated (and have not been addressed by the tag I placed on the page in March), and a lot has changed on Wikipedia since it was made a GA in 2008. - Sdkb ( talk) 20:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
GAR requested by Sdkb in June and I am inclined to agree. The quality of writing and referencing has notably declined since 2015. AIRcorn (talk) 03:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I added 'Last Week Tonight' to the list of spin-offs and had it reverted by User:JDDJS who said "Reverted good faith edits by Niccast (talk): It's not an official spinoff as it airs on a different network." Hopefully I am going about starting a discussion regarding that the appropriate way.
Wikipedia itself disagrees with that definition of 'spin-off'. The wikipedia articles Spin-off (media) and List of television spin-offs say nothing about the spin-off needing to be on the same network. And the list of spin-offs includes numerous that violate this 'rule' including The 20th Century Fox Hour (the original. Was on CBS then later Fox Movie Channel) -> Broken Arrow (its spin-off. Was on ABC); ALF (NBC) -> ALF's Hit Talk Show (TV Land, owned by CBS); and The Archie Show (CBS) -> multiple spin-offs some of which aired on CBS but others aired on NBC ('The New Archie and Sabrina Hour', 'The New Archies') or PAX ('Archie's Weird Mysteries'). Niccast ( talk) 04:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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Not sure how this would be implemented, but Trevor Noah resigned and who the new host is is still unclear. 62.139.105.79 ( talk) 02:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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It seems with Trevor gone, they’ve reverted the regular running time to 30 minutes, not just on
Hell of A Week nights. So please, in the infobox change "22 min. (1996–2020)” and “45 min. (2020–present)" to 22 min. (1996–2020, 2023-present) and 45 min. (2020–2022). Also the portion of the paragraph where it talks about the host titles, it still says Trevor’s 2015 to present, so that should be updated too
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It's my view that the show had much more notability as "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" as a distinct entity, and I think that warrants it's own page, in the vein of The Late Show vs The Late Show with David Letterman. Maybe a page for all three eras, but at least a separate one for Jon's 16 year run. -- Volvlogia ( talk) 04:06, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
This has been discussed many times, and I still strongly oppose a split. Other late shows having different articles for other hosts is irrelevant. Those shows usually only retain the name of the previous show and are otherwise completely different. Each time the host has changed of the Daily Show, they've kept a significant number of the same writers, producers and correspondents. There were no immediate drastic changes in formant. We don't create new articles for daytime talk shows or game shows when they get a new host. We shouldn't here either. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 16:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Oppose : It's the same show with different hosts. The popularity and viewership may differ during different era of hosts, but it's the same show. 49.207.214.158 ( talk) 13:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Oppose : For reasons stated above. It's the same show that just featured different hosts though the years it's been on the air. No need to split. Darwin's Bulldog ( talk) 19:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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In the spin-off section it talks about Parazit being a show in Iran inspired by the daily show. Parazit is in the Farsi language but it not based in Iran at all as the Islamic regime would not allow that show at all. Parazit is actually an American created show in the Farsi language. 76.30.133.9 ( talk) 16:02, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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The article says that «it was announced that Jon Stewart would return as host for Monday night shows, »(…)« beginning on February 12». Yet today’s still the 7th and there he is. What am I missing? Tuvalkin ( talk) 03:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
The article is protected, so I can't directly edit, but this section of the article's intro is problematic:
"Critics chastised Stewart for not conducting sufficiently hard-hitting interviews with his political guests, some of whom he may have lampooned in previous segments. Stewart and other Daily Show writers responded to such criticism by saying that they do not have any journalistic responsibility and that as comedians, their only duty is to provide entertainment."
It's unclear who? exactly these "critics" are, and how widespread this criticism was. There is a citation at the end of the paragraph, but the linked CNN article doesn't specifically mention the criticisms alluded to here. - 2003:CA:8717:D2FF:9369:1DF8:C9AE:692 ( talk) 13:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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He is one of the better interviewers we have, and I think something should be said about it in this article, no? See this. – Muboshgu ( talk) 13:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
In the introduction the article currently includes the following: "Critics, including series co-creator Lizz Winstead (who has since changed her view[1]), have chastised Stewart for not conducting sufficiently hard-hitting interviews with his political guests, some of whom he may have previously lampooned in other segments.". The problems here are: 1) The Winstead criticism is acknowledged to have been withdrawn, so why bring it up? 2) the reference to the Winstead criticsm (or its withdrawl) is a dead link and 3) there are no other references to anyone else making this criticism. I suggest that either a reference to someone else who made this criticism be provided, or the criticism section here be deleted. I will wait a week, and if I do not see a reference provided will delete it. Gogh ( talk) 20:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
They are unfortunately ubiquitous on the show and have come to characterize it. They have moved beyond verbal references and are now increasingly graphically illustrated, in case viewers miss what is being referenced. Probably as many people (mainly young males who unaccountably can't get enough of this type of humor, but undoubtedly some women as well) watch the show for this penile wit as for the political commentary, and would sorely miss it if it stopped. Since it is so integral to the show and to Jon Stewart's mentality, it should be mentioned in the article, in my opinion. I agree with Indrian that there is no independent source for this fact, but a fact it is: one need only watch the show. Syzygos ( talk) 00:35, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
I chopped this paragraph, because none of the cites adequately support the statements they are attached to, and the long list of Democrat bureaucrats seems like OR, since no sources are provided. Although I have no doubt that they appeared on the show, we need a 3rd party who has counted them up (and also determined that Spellings was the only Bush era government guest). Ashmoo ( talk) 16:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
During both the Bush administration and the Obama administration, the liberal overtures of the show were not lost on politicans, as during the eight years of the George W. Bush administration, Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings was the only sitting cabinet member to appear on the show. The eight minute segment Spellings was on the show progressed largely without the "the more pointed jabs that the comedian routinely levels at Mr. Bush and his administration." [1] Within the first ten months of the Obama presidency, five cabinet secretaries and two cabinet level administrators appeared on the show: [2] Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebellius, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus and EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson.
Gotta agree with Xeworlebi..."Returning series" doesn't make much sense. Will have to check pages for other series to see what is generally used...something like "Active" seems better. Dk100 ( talk) 04:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I put the notability template in the Oliva Munn section. It is a striped down version of a section called "Accusations of Sexism" from last year. It's based on a blog, Jezebel, and the response from TDS. Since a blog is not an RS, and there seems to be no other source objecting to Munn, I think the whole section ought to be struck on the grounds that it is not notable and has no reliable sources. -- 76.18.43.253 ( talk) 22:19, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
This reference is unsorced and links to "news satire" page.
Satire is not false construction. It is exagerated commentary. Unless Comedy Central or John Steward, a producer or a writer has called in Fake it is empirically not fake. 83.70.170.48 ( talk) 10:06, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Both South Park and The Daily Show are claimed by Wikipedia to be the longest running program on Comedy Central. One of the statements must be wrong, and I am not allowed to edit the South Park page. This is a call for help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.246.47.135 ( talk) 13:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Can interested editors take a look at the following two articles and offer their opinions on whether they should be consolidated? (Same thing for 2001, 2011, and 2012)
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User:DKqwery legitimately reverted my edit on Stewart's incessant references to male genitals, since it wasn't documented by an independent source. However, this is a case of a Wikipedia policy being inadequately specified. One might as well demand a citation for the statement that air is transparent. Stewart appears to have similar propensities to his friend Anthony Weiner, which he is in a position to satisfy not privately online, but by publicly making joking references to, or showing representations of, his own and his co-genderists' sexual organs. Anyone not familiar with "The Daily Show", reading this article without the equivalent of my unexceptionable statement that "most episodes under Stewart's tenure include one or more references to penises or testicles" will have a very incomplete idea of the tone and content of the program. Syzygos ( talk) 00:14, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
What specific demographics does it discuss, it's just some unsourced discussion on being informed versus not being informed compared to PBS / Jim Lehrer and Bill O'Reilly. This should be deleted until more ratings data is provided or some more scientific explanation of "being informed" is detailed. Until then it is nebulous and irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.36.25 ( talk) 10:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely agree with the above comment. The section entitled "Demographics" mentions nothing about Demographics. Is anyone overseeing this page? -- Memarshall ( talk) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Came here to say the same thing. I'm going to give it a day or two and honestly might just remove the entire section. Beach drifter ( talk) 03:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
In the article's side bar, under the heading Chronology > Related Shows, it lists " Last Week Tonight with John Oliver". However, I don't see any commonalities, such as network, producers, writers, etc., other than Oliver being an alumnus of TDS and a similar format. It makes sense to list The Colbert Report as related, since it was directly spun off from TDS, but that isn't the case with John Oliver, so are they properly referred to as being "related"? -- 24.212.139.102 ( talk) 16:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Should "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" be added to the "Spin-Offs" section?
Unlike The Colbert Report and The Nightly Show, it's not an official spin-off in that it's not being produced by Jon Stewart's company/Comedy Central. So I don't think it qualifies, as related as it is. There is no official connection aside from the host being a former TDS correspondent. Ausir ( talk)
Interesting detailed information in this article:
Headline-1: How Jon Stewart turned lies into comedy and brainwashed a generation
QUOTE: "Though Stewart has often claimed he does a “fake news show,” “The Daily Show” isn’t that. It’s a real news show punctuated with puns, jokes, asides and the occasional moment of staged sanctimony. It contains real, unstaged sound bites about the days’ events and interviews about important policy matters. Stewart is a journalist: an irresponsible and unprofessional one." -- AstroU ( talk) 01:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
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I think this article should be similar to the page like The Tonight Show, Late Night, and Late Show should be. Then we should create a The Daily Show with Jon Stewart because by the time Trevor Noah takes over this page is going to get very crowded and it would make since if we split the pages into two. ( McQueen.30 ( talk) 00:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC))
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I propose adding something like this (captioned photo at right) to the Studio section. Please edit or comment:
While we already have a photo from this show (both are public domain), this one shows off this set. A good addition or undue emphasis on this (presumably) once-used set just because we have a PD photo of it?-- Elvey( t• c) 14:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore is really not a direct spin-off of The Daily Show, I'd consider it more or less a spin-off or at least a replacement series for the Colbert Report which is a direct spin-off of TDS. I'd like to remove this section and move it to the Colbert Report but before I do that I'd like to get some opinions first on whether it should be done and in what manner that would be proper. Thanks. YborCityJohn ( talk) 04:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
The "toss" to Colbert section indicates that the toss was used on Colbert's final episode. Was there a toss done at the end of the Daily Show that night prior to Colbert? Or is this a reference to Stewart's appearance at the end of Colbert's last show? If the former, the wording here should be changed to something like "... and again to close the episode that aired before the final episode of The Colbert Report on December 18, 2014". If the latter, it shouldn't be mentioned at all, because the close of Colbert wasn't a "toss". TheHYPO ( talk) 14:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear fellow wikipedians, I believe it is time to spilt this article. With Jon Stewart's tenure as host is sadly done, it is time for this article to be similar to
The Late Show,
The Late Late Show,
The Tonight Show, and
Late Night. I mean Trevor Noah already has a page and Jon Stewart should have his own page and Carig Kilborn's should be similar to The Late Late Show. When September 28 comes, there should be two Daily Show pages.
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Hello, I have once again created The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, per the multiple split consensuses above. A reception section can definitely be added tomorrow. In the meantime, feel free to add additional information (history, etc.) there, since there has been significant coverage. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 19:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
New Host = New Article! Honestly, why is there so much resistance to creating separate articles? Mhoppmann ( talk) 02:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, Noah's already debuted at this point, and the article is starting to look pretty crowded accounting for now 3 hosts. The bare bones "Daily Show" should have basic info about the format (moment of zen, etc), accolades, while history of each respective tenure should be done the way the articles for the respective incarnations of The Tonight Show, The Late Show, etc. are. Fireflyfanboy ( talk) 06:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
There is currently no need to split the article. Noah has only been the host for 2 shows right now. There has been no significant change in format. Currently, this is listed as a Good Article. A Noah version article will only be a stub. The show is essentially the same exact show it was with Stewart. Game shows have many different hosts, and we never split those articles. Live! also only has one article despite the many hosts that it has have. Yes, Late night talk shows articles are often split by host, but unlike The Daily Show, they often have significant changes to the format when a new host takes over. And there is no official policy that says each host gets their own page. So, unless there becomes too much information about Noah's version of the show to fit into this single article, or someone makes an argument based in policy that successfully refutes the points that I already made, or there is a strong and clear consensus that the article needs to be split now, I will revert any attempt to split the page. JDDJS ( talk) 20:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
The show WILL change. Just because it isn't a completely different show now doesn't mean it will be in the future. In fact, the Daily Show will have to change just by virtue of Noah hosting it every night. BTW, the Daily Show is a Late Night show, so shouldn't it be treated the same as other late night shows? I think we should put the issue of whether to create a new page for Noah up for a vote. Mhoppmann ( talk) 16:50, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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Other late night shows have individual articles for each host, shouldn't TDS also do this for
This would be akin to
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This has been discussed before. WP:SIZESPLIT. The article is at a perfectly fine length right now, and this is listed as a good article. If we split the article, instead of having one good article, we'll just have several short articles. JDDJS ( talk) 23:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Quite a bit of this article still reads like Jon Stewart hosts the show. I've just gone through a couple sections, changed some uses of his name to "Noah" or "the host," and changed some verb tenses. Other sections, like "Production," still speak in the present tense about things Jon said about how the show worked at that time. You really can't even just rewrite that one, because it is very specific, and I doubt Noah works with the staff in exactly the same way. 2602:306:8320:AF00:ED07:9B97:963E:FEB0 ( talk) 23:20, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
Late Show has its own article for Colbert version so this should do same for Noah. He's been at it long enough. As had Jon. Ranze ( talk) 14:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I question this word choice: "...otherwise referred to as 9/11 First Responders Bill, which Stewart enumerated had been blocked by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell for political reasons."? There's no numbered list here, only the one bald statement. How about "revealed", "disclosed", or simply "said"? Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 04:28, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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In the opening sentence it says, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah was known as of 2016. He took over in 2015. 2600:387:8:9:0:0:0:80 ( talk) 22:08, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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Although dates are correct the image appears that Kilborn had longest tenure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.222.59.187 ( talk) 12:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
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Is the Daily Show categorized clearly as a far left show as the beginning of the text make it looks like ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passemort ( talk • contribs) 10:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
The rating section seems dated. I found this page [3]
with some more recent ratings -- Zaurus ( talk) 12:21, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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I've tagged this article for a Good Article reassessment, since many parts of it have clearly become outdated (and have not been addressed by the tag I placed on the page in March), and a lot has changed on Wikipedia since it was made a GA in 2008. - Sdkb ( talk) 20:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
GAR requested by Sdkb in June and I am inclined to agree. The quality of writing and referencing has notably declined since 2015. AIRcorn (talk) 03:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I added 'Last Week Tonight' to the list of spin-offs and had it reverted by User:JDDJS who said "Reverted good faith edits by Niccast (talk): It's not an official spinoff as it airs on a different network." Hopefully I am going about starting a discussion regarding that the appropriate way.
Wikipedia itself disagrees with that definition of 'spin-off'. The wikipedia articles Spin-off (media) and List of television spin-offs say nothing about the spin-off needing to be on the same network. And the list of spin-offs includes numerous that violate this 'rule' including The 20th Century Fox Hour (the original. Was on CBS then later Fox Movie Channel) -> Broken Arrow (its spin-off. Was on ABC); ALF (NBC) -> ALF's Hit Talk Show (TV Land, owned by CBS); and The Archie Show (CBS) -> multiple spin-offs some of which aired on CBS but others aired on NBC ('The New Archie and Sabrina Hour', 'The New Archies') or PAX ('Archie's Weird Mysteries'). Niccast ( talk) 04:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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Not sure how this would be implemented, but Trevor Noah resigned and who the new host is is still unclear. 62.139.105.79 ( talk) 02:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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It seems with Trevor gone, they’ve reverted the regular running time to 30 minutes, not just on
Hell of A Week nights. So please, in the infobox change "22 min. (1996–2020)” and “45 min. (2020–present)" to 22 min. (1996–2020, 2023-present) and 45 min. (2020–2022). Also the portion of the paragraph where it talks about the host titles, it still says Trevor’s 2015 to present, so that should be updated too
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It's my view that the show had much more notability as "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" as a distinct entity, and I think that warrants it's own page, in the vein of The Late Show vs The Late Show with David Letterman. Maybe a page for all three eras, but at least a separate one for Jon's 16 year run. -- Volvlogia ( talk) 04:06, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
This has been discussed many times, and I still strongly oppose a split. Other late shows having different articles for other hosts is irrelevant. Those shows usually only retain the name of the previous show and are otherwise completely different. Each time the host has changed of the Daily Show, they've kept a significant number of the same writers, producers and correspondents. There were no immediate drastic changes in formant. We don't create new articles for daytime talk shows or game shows when they get a new host. We shouldn't here either. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 16:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Oppose : It's the same show with different hosts. The popularity and viewership may differ during different era of hosts, but it's the same show. 49.207.214.158 ( talk) 13:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Oppose : For reasons stated above. It's the same show that just featured different hosts though the years it's been on the air. No need to split. Darwin's Bulldog ( talk) 19:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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In the spin-off section it talks about Parazit being a show in Iran inspired by the daily show. Parazit is in the Farsi language but it not based in Iran at all as the Islamic regime would not allow that show at all. Parazit is actually an American created show in the Farsi language. 76.30.133.9 ( talk) 16:02, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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The article says that «it was announced that Jon Stewart would return as host for Monday night shows, »(…)« beginning on February 12». Yet today’s still the 7th and there he is. What am I missing? Tuvalkin ( talk) 03:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
The article is protected, so I can't directly edit, but this section of the article's intro is problematic:
"Critics chastised Stewart for not conducting sufficiently hard-hitting interviews with his political guests, some of whom he may have lampooned in previous segments. Stewart and other Daily Show writers responded to such criticism by saying that they do not have any journalistic responsibility and that as comedians, their only duty is to provide entertainment."
It's unclear who? exactly these "critics" are, and how widespread this criticism was. There is a citation at the end of the paragraph, but the linked CNN article doesn't specifically mention the criticisms alluded to here. - 2003:CA:8717:D2FF:9369:1DF8:C9AE:692 ( talk) 13:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)