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This album was released on Polydor Records in the UK. Also, Night Bird Flying was released as a single. 137.205.191.198 ( talk) 13:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know who did the cover art? Boris B ( talk) 03:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Someone please tell gersracing that replacing sourced and referenced pieces and replacing them with self serving un-sourced nonsense is just vandalism. Jameselmo ( talk) 11:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
You have been warned, gersracing, replacing sourced and referenced pieces and replacing them with self serving un-sourced nonsense is just vandalism. you seem to be living in a fantasy world where you are a major recording star Jameselmo ( talk) 18:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC).
gersracing: "Awarded gold albums with Warner Bros., Polydor, and Track Records. Recorded with Jimi Hendrix on 'Cry of Love' album." Yeah - in your dreams! You have assumed the identity of a made up four letter name that was mistakenly given for Paul Caruso for a three year old (in 1971)track that no-one could remember at the time who actually played on it. I see you have recently been attempting to spread your nonsense via My Space, E-bay & 'Rate your music' in a attempt to be "one of the privileged' - whatever that means. None of the famous people you mention appear to have any association with you, and your 'friends' list is patently made up of people that weren't around when my space started or just nonsense that's dished out to anyone who asks.
Jimi didn't "record the 'Cry of Love'album" (and none of it was recorded in England as you make out in your 'blurb')it was pieced together posthumously by Eddie & Mitch from the recordings they had been working on with Jimi from early 1970 and a couple from late December 69 with the BOGs, for an LP which was tentatively titled by Jimi either 'First Rays of The New Rising Sun' or (later) 'Strate Ahead' The 'Cry of Love' title is posthumous and comes from an interview Jimi gave just prior to the last Jimi Hendrix Experience tour (with Billy Cox on bass)when he christened the tour thus. They couldn't use all the tracks they wanted as some had to be given to Reprise for the (contracted) 'Rainbow Bridge' soundtrack, hence (possibly) the inclusion of the anomalous 1968 track 'My Friend'. Jameselmo ( talk) 02:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
3rd warning about your vandalism gersracing Jameselmo ( talk) 22:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC) 4th warning Jameselmo ( talk) 22:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
4th time - Thats it, man, you're oot the window.
Huxley's appears to be alone in his assessment of The Cry of Love as a "compilation" ("The following year saw the release of The Cry of Love, a compilation of songs that were at varying points of completion at the time of Hendrix's death"). For albums, "compilation" generally refers to being drawn from various sources and usually contains songs recorded over a longer period of time, at different points in an artist's career. They often include songs previously released as singles or on other albums, recorded at different studios and sometimes with different backing musicians, producers, engineers, etc. This is not the case with this album.
At the time of its release, CoL was the first time that any of the songs were released. Eight out of ten of the songs were recorded June–August 1970 at one studio ( Electric Lady Studios) with one engineer ( Eddie Kramer) with the same backing musicians ( Mitch Mitchell and Billy Cox, with occasional backup singers and percussion). The two exceptions are: " Ezy Ryder" (begun in December 1969 with Buddy Miles at the Record Plant) and "My Friend" (a jam-type recording with guest musicians from March 1968). Both Axis: Bold as Love and Electric Ladyland were recorded with several guests and EL contains two previously released singles: " Burning of the Midnight Lamp", recorded and released about one year earlier and " All Along the Watchtower", both of which were produced by Chas Chandler (Hendrix produced the rest of EL). However, these are not identified as "compilations".
Huxley appears to be making an
WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim – unless "multiple high-quality sources" are identified to support compilation album, the infobox should be reverted to |type=studio
as it existed for years.
— Ojorojo ( talk) 16:42, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
"A compilation album is a general term used to refer to a music release made of up of songs that [were] not intended to be viewed as a single work." (Do we know for sure all these songs were intended by Hendrix to be for a single work?)
The burden is on you to provide multiple high-quality sources to support your change, that this should be filed as a studio album, which appears to be the exceptional claim. Dan56 ( talk) 19:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Something else (not compilation)
Compilation
Huxley has written several books of musician bios, etc., but not on Hendrix. No books are shown for Allen or Rivadavia about Hendrix or otherwise. So the "compilation" designation is only used by three writers who haven't written fully developed works about Hendrix.
— Ojorojo ( talk) 16:03, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
The ones you've grouped as "not compilation" don't say it is not a compilation. You don't have to be a "fully developed" expert on Hendrix to make this judgement, and Di Perna or Westergard are not, yet you conveniently cite them to paint this picture. Funny how you demand the highest credentials from sources when they disagree with your opinion. Dan56 ( talk) 16:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
OK, if we're drawing from a broader pool of sources (bolding added):
So, there are several who explicitly say "studio album" and others who counter the "Kramer's concoction" idea. — Ojorojo ( talk) 16:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
@ Dan56 and Ojorojo: Does this mean that agreement on studio as the type has been agreed? I'm trying to clear articles from the template error category and something needs to go in the type field so that this article isn't classed has having errors. - X201 ( talk) 11:48, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
|type=album
just produces "Album", with clarification left to |longtype=
. If it is really necessary, I suppose both can be used, like
Eat a Peach or
Hell Freezes Over (the use of a second color has little meaning to all except experienced WP album editors and may look like a mistake to the average reader). Problem is, which goes first? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
14:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Dan56: Template:Cquote doesn't explain it very well, so I linked the pull quote article. It includes: "Because the pull quote invites the reader to read about the highlighted material, the pull quote should appear before the text it cites and, generally, fairly close to it.[2][page needed] ... Pull quotes need not be a verbatim copy of the text being quoted; depending on a publication's house style, pull quotes may be abbreviated for space or paraphrased for clarity, with or without indication.[2][page needed]" The example that is uses shows that the pull quote repeats verbatim the text from the bottom of the second column.
Additionally, MOS:BLOCKQUOTE includes: "Do not enclose block quotations in quotation marks (and especially avoid decorative quotation marks in normal use, such as those provided by the {{ cquote}} template). Block quotations using a colored background are also discouraged." If the cquote doesn't substantially repeat existing text, it should be formatted as a block quote, which doesn't use quotation marks (plain or decorative).
— Ojorojo ( talk) 20:58, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
There is an entire section to discuss the album format. That section quotes different sources but there is no connections between them. What are we discussing here? Is it the Hendrix 4th album? Is it studio or compilation? Those quotes are talking about different things, and it seems there is no connections between them. Valverde.pr ( talk) 17:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I dont think the section't tittle speaks for itself. Its not a relevant topic. It seems someone took a discussion from "talk" section and decided it was a good idea to put it in the main article. Valverde.pr ( talk) 22:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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This album was released on Polydor Records in the UK. Also, Night Bird Flying was released as a single. 137.205.191.198 ( talk) 13:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know who did the cover art? Boris B ( talk) 03:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Someone please tell gersracing that replacing sourced and referenced pieces and replacing them with self serving un-sourced nonsense is just vandalism. Jameselmo ( talk) 11:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
You have been warned, gersracing, replacing sourced and referenced pieces and replacing them with self serving un-sourced nonsense is just vandalism. you seem to be living in a fantasy world where you are a major recording star Jameselmo ( talk) 18:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC).
gersracing: "Awarded gold albums with Warner Bros., Polydor, and Track Records. Recorded with Jimi Hendrix on 'Cry of Love' album." Yeah - in your dreams! You have assumed the identity of a made up four letter name that was mistakenly given for Paul Caruso for a three year old (in 1971)track that no-one could remember at the time who actually played on it. I see you have recently been attempting to spread your nonsense via My Space, E-bay & 'Rate your music' in a attempt to be "one of the privileged' - whatever that means. None of the famous people you mention appear to have any association with you, and your 'friends' list is patently made up of people that weren't around when my space started or just nonsense that's dished out to anyone who asks.
Jimi didn't "record the 'Cry of Love'album" (and none of it was recorded in England as you make out in your 'blurb')it was pieced together posthumously by Eddie & Mitch from the recordings they had been working on with Jimi from early 1970 and a couple from late December 69 with the BOGs, for an LP which was tentatively titled by Jimi either 'First Rays of The New Rising Sun' or (later) 'Strate Ahead' The 'Cry of Love' title is posthumous and comes from an interview Jimi gave just prior to the last Jimi Hendrix Experience tour (with Billy Cox on bass)when he christened the tour thus. They couldn't use all the tracks they wanted as some had to be given to Reprise for the (contracted) 'Rainbow Bridge' soundtrack, hence (possibly) the inclusion of the anomalous 1968 track 'My Friend'. Jameselmo ( talk) 02:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
3rd warning about your vandalism gersracing Jameselmo ( talk) 22:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC) 4th warning Jameselmo ( talk) 22:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
4th time - Thats it, man, you're oot the window.
Huxley's appears to be alone in his assessment of The Cry of Love as a "compilation" ("The following year saw the release of The Cry of Love, a compilation of songs that were at varying points of completion at the time of Hendrix's death"). For albums, "compilation" generally refers to being drawn from various sources and usually contains songs recorded over a longer period of time, at different points in an artist's career. They often include songs previously released as singles or on other albums, recorded at different studios and sometimes with different backing musicians, producers, engineers, etc. This is not the case with this album.
At the time of its release, CoL was the first time that any of the songs were released. Eight out of ten of the songs were recorded June–August 1970 at one studio ( Electric Lady Studios) with one engineer ( Eddie Kramer) with the same backing musicians ( Mitch Mitchell and Billy Cox, with occasional backup singers and percussion). The two exceptions are: " Ezy Ryder" (begun in December 1969 with Buddy Miles at the Record Plant) and "My Friend" (a jam-type recording with guest musicians from March 1968). Both Axis: Bold as Love and Electric Ladyland were recorded with several guests and EL contains two previously released singles: " Burning of the Midnight Lamp", recorded and released about one year earlier and " All Along the Watchtower", both of which were produced by Chas Chandler (Hendrix produced the rest of EL). However, these are not identified as "compilations".
Huxley appears to be making an
WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim – unless "multiple high-quality sources" are identified to support compilation album, the infobox should be reverted to |type=studio
as it existed for years.
— Ojorojo ( talk) 16:42, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
"A compilation album is a general term used to refer to a music release made of up of songs that [were] not intended to be viewed as a single work." (Do we know for sure all these songs were intended by Hendrix to be for a single work?)
The burden is on you to provide multiple high-quality sources to support your change, that this should be filed as a studio album, which appears to be the exceptional claim. Dan56 ( talk) 19:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Something else (not compilation)
Compilation
Huxley has written several books of musician bios, etc., but not on Hendrix. No books are shown for Allen or Rivadavia about Hendrix or otherwise. So the "compilation" designation is only used by three writers who haven't written fully developed works about Hendrix.
— Ojorojo ( talk) 16:03, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
The ones you've grouped as "not compilation" don't say it is not a compilation. You don't have to be a "fully developed" expert on Hendrix to make this judgement, and Di Perna or Westergard are not, yet you conveniently cite them to paint this picture. Funny how you demand the highest credentials from sources when they disagree with your opinion. Dan56 ( talk) 16:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
OK, if we're drawing from a broader pool of sources (bolding added):
So, there are several who explicitly say "studio album" and others who counter the "Kramer's concoction" idea. — Ojorojo ( talk) 16:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
@ Dan56 and Ojorojo: Does this mean that agreement on studio as the type has been agreed? I'm trying to clear articles from the template error category and something needs to go in the type field so that this article isn't classed has having errors. - X201 ( talk) 11:48, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
|type=album
just produces "Album", with clarification left to |longtype=
. If it is really necessary, I suppose both can be used, like
Eat a Peach or
Hell Freezes Over (the use of a second color has little meaning to all except experienced WP album editors and may look like a mistake to the average reader). Problem is, which goes first? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
14:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Dan56: Template:Cquote doesn't explain it very well, so I linked the pull quote article. It includes: "Because the pull quote invites the reader to read about the highlighted material, the pull quote should appear before the text it cites and, generally, fairly close to it.[2][page needed] ... Pull quotes need not be a verbatim copy of the text being quoted; depending on a publication's house style, pull quotes may be abbreviated for space or paraphrased for clarity, with or without indication.[2][page needed]" The example that is uses shows that the pull quote repeats verbatim the text from the bottom of the second column.
Additionally, MOS:BLOCKQUOTE includes: "Do not enclose block quotations in quotation marks (and especially avoid decorative quotation marks in normal use, such as those provided by the {{ cquote}} template). Block quotations using a colored background are also discouraged." If the cquote doesn't substantially repeat existing text, it should be formatted as a block quote, which doesn't use quotation marks (plain or decorative).
— Ojorojo ( talk) 20:58, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
There is an entire section to discuss the album format. That section quotes different sources but there is no connections between them. What are we discussing here? Is it the Hendrix 4th album? Is it studio or compilation? Those quotes are talking about different things, and it seems there is no connections between them. Valverde.pr ( talk) 17:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I dont think the section't tittle speaks for itself. Its not a relevant topic. It seems someone took a discussion from "talk" section and decided it was a good idea to put it in the main article. Valverde.pr ( talk) 22:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)