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KFFOWLER ( talk) 02:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
The synopsis of Acts I, II, and IV appears to be lifted wholesale [1] from this website [2] (now returning 404; see the page cached on Google [3]). As for the synopsis of Act III, it appears to have been blanked [4] and then filled [5] with the corresponding section from SparkNotes [6]. I guess this is a common thing on Wikipedia for articles about books, but it's still rather upsetting. Waterfalls12 ( talk) 17:18, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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It's the first time to use Wiki,so i'm not so familiar with it till now.I just want to find some essay about The Crucible for i have to write a long view on it. I want to read some articles so that i can write it easily. Sing for you ( talk) 04:22, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Is there a collective noun or literary category which covers works like Miller's The Crucible and Orwell's Nineteen Eightyfour which are set in one historical period but clearly or are generally understood to provide a commentary or challenge to another historical period, especially the writer's contemporary period? - BobKilcoyne ( talk) 03:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
BobKilcoyne ( talk) 22:52, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Pranav Reddy 18:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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@ Rms125a@hotmail.com: Proctor’s character description says that after confessing he changes his mind and “decides to instead admit guilt”. It’s not clear what this means, as he has already admitted guilt by confessing.
What actually happens is that he tears up his signed confession, effectively recanting in the eyes of the court.
I would suggest restoring the part of my previous edit that clarified this point. Marselan ( talk) 08:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC) Marselan ( talk) 08:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
The script I have of The Crucible only has two acts. What is listed as Act One is actually ACT ONE: Scene One. Listed as Act Two is actually ACT ONE: Scene Two. **Missing ACT TWO: Scene One (Proctor confronts Abigail in the woods). Listed as Act Three is ACT TWO: Scene Two. Listed as Act Four is ACT TWO: Scene Three.
Also the first paragraphs of 'Act One' and 'Act Two' reference narration that does not exist in the actual text. While the information is contextual relevant, it is not part of the play itself; its presence in the synopsis implies that there is a Narrator that addresses the audience. JWheeler ( talk) 21:46, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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It seems like the neutrality of this article is lacking, especially in the "Historical accuracy" section. I am unable to do the edits myself due to not being a registered user.
Example: "[Stoughton] refused to ever acknowledge that the trials had been anything other than a success, and was infuriated when Governor Phips (whose own wife, somehow, had been named as a possible witch) ended the trials for good and released the prisoners." (added bold)
Clearly biased against Stoughton (to be honest, I am too, but still, we're supposed to put our biases aside when writing).
Possible revision: He claimed that the trials were a success and criticized Governor Phips (whose own wife had been named as a witch) when Phips ended the trials and released the prisoners.
More examples:
"[T]he Putnams...were survived by ten of their twelve children, including Ann Jr., who, in 1706, issued perhaps the most heartfelt apology of any accuser."
That last part is highly subjective.
"Miller's cursory and limited scholarship regarding the trials is lamentable, given the squabbling that has long taken place over various interpretations of the numerous details and facts."
Clear bias against Miller that would be more appropriate for a news article, not Wikipedia.
I'm not suggesting a complete revision to remove any possibly biased words, just to correct these very strongly worded parts. 2600:1700:C370:9F10:31C8:411A:5C9D:A78D ( talk) 02:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
On the mobile app, it says The Crucible is a play by Obamacare. That doesn’t seem right. Pranav Reddy 18:49, 7 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pranavrreddy ( talk • contribs)
"(In real life, after fleeing Salem, Williams reportedly became a prostitute in Boston)." - This has no source and is inaccurate. As Abigail William's Wikipedia page correctly states, historians do not know what happened to Abigail Williams following the trials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:B05A:6600:4CC7:DD98:3DFF:D13E ( talk) 10:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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Please change "piousness" to "piety" in the forth paragraph of the section on Act 2. 2600:1:9919:426A:0:6C:790D:F001 ( talk) 01:52, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
This article mentions an opera based on the play. I am sure that I heard on Front Row tonight (August 5 2019) that there is going to be a ballet based on the play. If any one knows anything about this, it could go in the article. Vorbee ( talk) 18:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
I have a programme from the Royal Ballet premiere in April 2000. I can't update the locked page. Be assured it did happen tho. William Tuckett choreography, Charles Ives music, Ralph Steadman designs. But there was another Scottish Ballet production with choreography by Helen Pickett in 2019 at the Edinburgh Festival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.11.224.151 ( talk) 06:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
L.A. THEATRE WORKS produced a radio play of The Crucible as part of their series featuring performances of plays before a live audience. The title was: THE PLAY'S THE THING: THE CRUCIBLE (RADIO). DATE: April 10, 1988. Star studded cast, including Richard Dreyfuss, Carol Kane, Stacy Keach and Rene Auberjonois. Broadcast on NPR.
Source: https://www.paleycenter.org/collection/item/?q=ed&p=122&item=R:11040 2600:1700:F980:6AC0:21F0:D5B8:D448:67B2 ( talk) 21:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
The National Theatre in London did production of the play that transferred to the West End. I feel it needs to be recognized on this page. Is there a way we can add the current London cast to the notable cast section? Smitty1999 ( talk) 14:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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KFFOWLER ( talk) 02:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
The synopsis of Acts I, II, and IV appears to be lifted wholesale [1] from this website [2] (now returning 404; see the page cached on Google [3]). As for the synopsis of Act III, it appears to have been blanked [4] and then filled [5] with the corresponding section from SparkNotes [6]. I guess this is a common thing on Wikipedia for articles about books, but it's still rather upsetting. Waterfalls12 ( talk) 17:18, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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It's the first time to use Wiki,so i'm not so familiar with it till now.I just want to find some essay about The Crucible for i have to write a long view on it. I want to read some articles so that i can write it easily. Sing for you ( talk) 04:22, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Is there a collective noun or literary category which covers works like Miller's The Crucible and Orwell's Nineteen Eightyfour which are set in one historical period but clearly or are generally understood to provide a commentary or challenge to another historical period, especially the writer's contemporary period? - BobKilcoyne ( talk) 03:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
BobKilcoyne ( talk) 22:52, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Pranav Reddy 18:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Removal_of_historical_characters_from_navboxes.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:59, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Removal_of_historical_characters_from_navboxes.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:00, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
@ Rms125a@hotmail.com: Proctor’s character description says that after confessing he changes his mind and “decides to instead admit guilt”. It’s not clear what this means, as he has already admitted guilt by confessing.
What actually happens is that he tears up his signed confession, effectively recanting in the eyes of the court.
I would suggest restoring the part of my previous edit that clarified this point. Marselan ( talk) 08:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC) Marselan ( talk) 08:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
The script I have of The Crucible only has two acts. What is listed as Act One is actually ACT ONE: Scene One. Listed as Act Two is actually ACT ONE: Scene Two. **Missing ACT TWO: Scene One (Proctor confronts Abigail in the woods). Listed as Act Three is ACT TWO: Scene Two. Listed as Act Four is ACT TWO: Scene Three.
Also the first paragraphs of 'Act One' and 'Act Two' reference narration that does not exist in the actual text. While the information is contextual relevant, it is not part of the play itself; its presence in the synopsis implies that there is a Narrator that addresses the audience. JWheeler ( talk) 21:46, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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It seems like the neutrality of this article is lacking, especially in the "Historical accuracy" section. I am unable to do the edits myself due to not being a registered user.
Example: "[Stoughton] refused to ever acknowledge that the trials had been anything other than a success, and was infuriated when Governor Phips (whose own wife, somehow, had been named as a possible witch) ended the trials for good and released the prisoners." (added bold)
Clearly biased against Stoughton (to be honest, I am too, but still, we're supposed to put our biases aside when writing).
Possible revision: He claimed that the trials were a success and criticized Governor Phips (whose own wife had been named as a witch) when Phips ended the trials and released the prisoners.
More examples:
"[T]he Putnams...were survived by ten of their twelve children, including Ann Jr., who, in 1706, issued perhaps the most heartfelt apology of any accuser."
That last part is highly subjective.
"Miller's cursory and limited scholarship regarding the trials is lamentable, given the squabbling that has long taken place over various interpretations of the numerous details and facts."
Clear bias against Miller that would be more appropriate for a news article, not Wikipedia.
I'm not suggesting a complete revision to remove any possibly biased words, just to correct these very strongly worded parts. 2600:1700:C370:9F10:31C8:411A:5C9D:A78D ( talk) 02:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
On the mobile app, it says The Crucible is a play by Obamacare. That doesn’t seem right. Pranav Reddy 18:49, 7 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pranavrreddy ( talk • contribs)
"(In real life, after fleeing Salem, Williams reportedly became a prostitute in Boston)." - This has no source and is inaccurate. As Abigail William's Wikipedia page correctly states, historians do not know what happened to Abigail Williams following the trials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:B05A:6600:4CC7:DD98:3DFF:D13E ( talk) 10:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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Please change "piousness" to "piety" in the forth paragraph of the section on Act 2. 2600:1:9919:426A:0:6C:790D:F001 ( talk) 01:52, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
This article mentions an opera based on the play. I am sure that I heard on Front Row tonight (August 5 2019) that there is going to be a ballet based on the play. If any one knows anything about this, it could go in the article. Vorbee ( talk) 18:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
I have a programme from the Royal Ballet premiere in April 2000. I can't update the locked page. Be assured it did happen tho. William Tuckett choreography, Charles Ives music, Ralph Steadman designs. But there was another Scottish Ballet production with choreography by Helen Pickett in 2019 at the Edinburgh Festival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.11.224.151 ( talk) 06:31, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
L.A. THEATRE WORKS produced a radio play of The Crucible as part of their series featuring performances of plays before a live audience. The title was: THE PLAY'S THE THING: THE CRUCIBLE (RADIO). DATE: April 10, 1988. Star studded cast, including Richard Dreyfuss, Carol Kane, Stacy Keach and Rene Auberjonois. Broadcast on NPR.
Source: https://www.paleycenter.org/collection/item/?q=ed&p=122&item=R:11040 2600:1700:F980:6AC0:21F0:D5B8:D448:67B2 ( talk) 21:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
The National Theatre in London did production of the play that transferred to the West End. I feel it needs to be recognized on this page. Is there a way we can add the current London cast to the notable cast section? Smitty1999 ( talk) 14:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)