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I have completed a major expansion and revision but limited to the lead, Infobox, layout, and publication history of the stories. —no attention to the content of the five story sections.
The story sections seem too short to be Article Space "Sections". Anyway, I have provided Template:Anchors for links to the story sections, using the primary nouns of their titles, at least.
If you restore Article Space "Sections", simply code the Section headings below anchors,
{{anchor|ford}}
==The Ford of Red Hanrahan==
rather than delete the anchors. -- P64 ( talk) 15:30, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
-- P64 ( talk) 14:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
The latest revisions at First Fall and [A Gift of Dragons]] are yours with identical summaries: (tidy up au Dragonflight, part 1; formatting for collection; date formats per WP:MOSNUM by script). I have alerted editor User:Mirokado.
Do these elements follow a wikipedia guideline or discussion for short story collections or for collections more generally?
Partly related, do you know where is discussion of initial semicolon in code?
-- P64 ( talk) 19:23, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Per this request I've had a look at this page. I think the format is probably fine, though if it were me, I'd dump the subheadings and make a separate para for each story. That said, the subheadings aren't too bad. However the sentence fragments at the beginning of each heading detailing the first publication should be reworked into full sentences and integrated into the paragraphs. If I remember correctly this was published as a hardback and then at some point later perhaps as paperback, so it would be nice to find that information, and also to find info on the print-run, etc. Often that information is only behind a pay-wall but I have access to some limited databases and will try to see if I can find more sources. If I forget, please ping me to remind me. Thanks. Truthkeeper ( talk) 14:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
For "speculative fiction" the free database ISFDB provides much information about multiple editions [striving for all] and even multiple printings. For example, The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall title listing at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database reports simultaneous hc publications in US and UK; first paper (trade, tp) 11 and 8 months later, respectively.
Regarding the catalog data in {{ Infobox book}}, I have read its documentation, skimmed much and read some project pages at WP children's literature, science fiction, novels (never up at WP Books, which seems silly in retrospect), but have not asked questions until recently. Are there somewhere clear guidelines or even good advice about the treatment of joint US/UK or hard/paper first editions?
Here it's typical of my editing that I have named both US and UK cover artists, with a note, but have not provided any other data for the UK edition, nor even listed two "Country".
For hard and paper editions, the ubiquitous value of the Media parameter: "Print (hardcover and paperback)" is uninformative. I suppose I have never deleted it, but I have never entered that to cover a later paperback. Should "Print (hardcover)" signify that no paperback/softcover edition has been published to date, and vice versa? Sometime I have expanded the ubiquitous parameter value for clarity, as at Dragonquest:
Otherwise I have been satisfied to replace the report of Date, Pages, and ISBN from three different editions :-( with Pages and ISBN for one of the editions published in the Date year.
User:Truthkeeper88 is primarily responsible for In Our Time (book) which provides bibliographic data only in prose --not limited to the "Publication history" in name, but that section may be crucial to the strategy.
For now it seems clear to me that {Infobox book} is inadequate, and should not be stretched, to cover all the bibliographic information that is important (beyond grade C, say). Page counts and ISBN for four different editions cannot be important unless the editions are revised but its common that there are enough important facts of US/UK and hard/paper publication to require treatment in prose. -- P64 ( talk) 16:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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Image:Chroniclesofpern.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 20:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I have completed a major expansion and revision but limited to the lead, Infobox, layout, and publication history of the stories. —no attention to the content of the five story sections.
The story sections seem too short to be Article Space "Sections". Anyway, I have provided Template:Anchors for links to the story sections, using the primary nouns of their titles, at least.
If you restore Article Space "Sections", simply code the Section headings below anchors,
{{anchor|ford}}
==The Ford of Red Hanrahan==
rather than delete the anchors. -- P64 ( talk) 15:30, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
-- P64 ( talk) 14:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
The latest revisions at First Fall and [A Gift of Dragons]] are yours with identical summaries: (tidy up au Dragonflight, part 1; formatting for collection; date formats per WP:MOSNUM by script). I have alerted editor User:Mirokado.
Do these elements follow a wikipedia guideline or discussion for short story collections or for collections more generally?
Partly related, do you know where is discussion of initial semicolon in code?
-- P64 ( talk) 19:23, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Per this request I've had a look at this page. I think the format is probably fine, though if it were me, I'd dump the subheadings and make a separate para for each story. That said, the subheadings aren't too bad. However the sentence fragments at the beginning of each heading detailing the first publication should be reworked into full sentences and integrated into the paragraphs. If I remember correctly this was published as a hardback and then at some point later perhaps as paperback, so it would be nice to find that information, and also to find info on the print-run, etc. Often that information is only behind a pay-wall but I have access to some limited databases and will try to see if I can find more sources. If I forget, please ping me to remind me. Thanks. Truthkeeper ( talk) 14:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
For "speculative fiction" the free database ISFDB provides much information about multiple editions [striving for all] and even multiple printings. For example, The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall title listing at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database reports simultaneous hc publications in US and UK; first paper (trade, tp) 11 and 8 months later, respectively.
Regarding the catalog data in {{ Infobox book}}, I have read its documentation, skimmed much and read some project pages at WP children's literature, science fiction, novels (never up at WP Books, which seems silly in retrospect), but have not asked questions until recently. Are there somewhere clear guidelines or even good advice about the treatment of joint US/UK or hard/paper first editions?
Here it's typical of my editing that I have named both US and UK cover artists, with a note, but have not provided any other data for the UK edition, nor even listed two "Country".
For hard and paper editions, the ubiquitous value of the Media parameter: "Print (hardcover and paperback)" is uninformative. I suppose I have never deleted it, but I have never entered that to cover a later paperback. Should "Print (hardcover)" signify that no paperback/softcover edition has been published to date, and vice versa? Sometime I have expanded the ubiquitous parameter value for clarity, as at Dragonquest:
Otherwise I have been satisfied to replace the report of Date, Pages, and ISBN from three different editions :-( with Pages and ISBN for one of the editions published in the Date year.
User:Truthkeeper88 is primarily responsible for In Our Time (book) which provides bibliographic data only in prose --not limited to the "Publication history" in name, but that section may be crucial to the strategy.
For now it seems clear to me that {Infobox book} is inadequate, and should not be stretched, to cover all the bibliographic information that is important (beyond grade C, say). Page counts and ISBN for four different editions cannot be important unless the editions are revised but its common that there are enough important facts of US/UK and hard/paper publication to require treatment in prose. -- P64 ( talk) 16:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)