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I'm not sure if this article has been heavily vandalized or if it is just very awkwardly written. Most of it seemed to fall into the latter category, but then I got the the bit about bozo brothers and bozo sisters. (Things that make you go 'Hmmm...') I don't know doodley about this group, so I can't say one way or the other (but yet I still make comments that seem like I know what I'm talking about). PurpleChez ( talk) 16:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Good question. Bozo is an actual term used within the group to refer to outcast members (but not excommunicated members). In addition to bozo brothers and sisters, they refer to bozo camps. Starshine08 ( talk) 02:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I was in the group in 1996-97, I made edits to reflect what I experienced then the edits were removed and returned to what I think is a jaded outsiders view of the church. They make it sound cultish by how it is written. That is fine, but I remember when PBS used to keep their voice real monotone, in order to portray a passionless newscast, now wiki is just like them, all Alexi and dogmatic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.210.68 ( talk) 20:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
I notice that the spelling used in the lead section is "Jimmy". Melton gives the spelling as "Jimmie" and I'm wondering if there are other sources with the "y" spelling? • Astynax talk 23:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
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Marriage and starting a church topics sound like sales pitches for and by the group 47.21.45.74 ( talk) 13:04, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
I am removing the three links. These are all very subjective websites. Just because some writer at the Denver Post calls a group a cult does not make it a cult. The How Stuff Works article has a lot of wrong information (I know some people who are and also some who have been part of this church-that article is not accurate). And the Cult Education Institute writes off all kinds of groups as cults, such as Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses; essentially anyone who is not mainline Christian gets the "cult" label. If the Jim Robert's group is a cult because of their strict lifestyle, so are the Amish, Hutterites, all the Monastic groups through the last 2,000 years, the early Moravians, the early Waldensians, etc. The Jim Roberts group has a high standard of personal holiness and "separation from the world." No one is forced to stay in the group, but if someone does not want to live up to that standard they are not accepted: That is the way it is for all religious groups. The original definition of "cult" was "worship." Today the meaning has morphed into something like "any group that I think is too strict or has what I think is bad doctrine." If the people in the Jim Roberts group worship Jim Roberts instead of God, then they are truly a cult. If they respect/honor Jim Roberts as a god-fearing man, that is not worship and not a cult. I have not seen "worship of man" among the people that I know who are currently part of or have been a part of this group (a former member lives in the same house I do, and he has never said that anyone worshipped Jim Roberts or another man). I am not a member of the group and do not agree with everything the group says or does, but my disagreement does not make them a cult. The people in the group are simply trying to put to practice in a literal way what Jesus said, "Except a man forsake all that he has, he cannot be my disciple." Thousands upon thousands of men and women have tried to live that out through the ages, with varying degrees of literalness. Mikeatnip ( talk) 22:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
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I'm not sure if this article has been heavily vandalized or if it is just very awkwardly written. Most of it seemed to fall into the latter category, but then I got the the bit about bozo brothers and bozo sisters. (Things that make you go 'Hmmm...') I don't know doodley about this group, so I can't say one way or the other (but yet I still make comments that seem like I know what I'm talking about). PurpleChez ( talk) 16:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Good question. Bozo is an actual term used within the group to refer to outcast members (but not excommunicated members). In addition to bozo brothers and sisters, they refer to bozo camps. Starshine08 ( talk) 02:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I was in the group in 1996-97, I made edits to reflect what I experienced then the edits were removed and returned to what I think is a jaded outsiders view of the church. They make it sound cultish by how it is written. That is fine, but I remember when PBS used to keep their voice real monotone, in order to portray a passionless newscast, now wiki is just like them, all Alexi and dogmatic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.210.68 ( talk) 20:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
I notice that the spelling used in the lead section is "Jimmy". Melton gives the spelling as "Jimmie" and I'm wondering if there are other sources with the "y" spelling? • Astynax talk 23:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
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Marriage and starting a church topics sound like sales pitches for and by the group 47.21.45.74 ( talk) 13:04, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
I am removing the three links. These are all very subjective websites. Just because some writer at the Denver Post calls a group a cult does not make it a cult. The How Stuff Works article has a lot of wrong information (I know some people who are and also some who have been part of this church-that article is not accurate). And the Cult Education Institute writes off all kinds of groups as cults, such as Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses; essentially anyone who is not mainline Christian gets the "cult" label. If the Jim Robert's group is a cult because of their strict lifestyle, so are the Amish, Hutterites, all the Monastic groups through the last 2,000 years, the early Moravians, the early Waldensians, etc. The Jim Roberts group has a high standard of personal holiness and "separation from the world." No one is forced to stay in the group, but if someone does not want to live up to that standard they are not accepted: That is the way it is for all religious groups. The original definition of "cult" was "worship." Today the meaning has morphed into something like "any group that I think is too strict or has what I think is bad doctrine." If the people in the Jim Roberts group worship Jim Roberts instead of God, then they are truly a cult. If they respect/honor Jim Roberts as a god-fearing man, that is not worship and not a cult. I have not seen "worship of man" among the people that I know who are currently part of or have been a part of this group (a former member lives in the same house I do, and he has never said that anyone worshipped Jim Roberts or another man). I am not a member of the group and do not agree with everything the group says or does, but my disagreement does not make them a cult. The people in the group are simply trying to put to practice in a literal way what Jesus said, "Except a man forsake all that he has, he cannot be my disciple." Thousands upon thousands of men and women have tried to live that out through the ages, with varying degrees of literalness. Mikeatnip ( talk) 22:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)