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The logo in this article is out of date - new logo on http://theboatraces.org/ has word "RACES" instead of "RACE". If anyone out there is a graphics geek, could they fix this? It seems non-trivial as right-clicking on the logo on the website doesn't offer any "save image" options, so it's apparently not a separate image file. Pam D 15:14, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 12:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
The Boat Race →
The Boat Races – This year the women's boat race is also happening on the tideway and the event has been re-branded as
The Boat Races. However, the BNY Mellon Boat Race and the Newton Women's Boat race remain as brand names for the specific races. It is also the case that all the information about the women's boat races preceding 2015 is contained in the article about the
Henley Boat Race. Given the complexity of this issue I thought it should be discussed before any move. Should this page be moved to The Boat Races? Alternatively should a seperate page be made for The Boat Races, and perhaps even one for the Women's Boat Race separate from the Henley Boat Races article?
Bosstopher (
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*Support I am open to the idea of having one article for both events as
The Boat Races which would certainly avoid the
WP:SYSTEMATICBIAS of having the different classes of title. Otherwise I suggest keeping the title
The Boat Race for the history of related Boat Race events, and then have two sub and stub articles:
Results of The Boat Race, men's event and
Results of The Boat Race, women's event. In any case, since 1965, there have been two events in "The Boat Race", the main race and the reserve race.
In both contents:
Template:Cambridge University Rowing Clubs and
Template:Oxford University Rowing Clubs, the "event" is called
The Boat Race. As far as I remember, and I have watched "it" most years, "The Boat Race" has always referred to the whole event. If the event, associated with Oxford and Cambridge geniuses, is finally being titled with correct grammar, then good luck to them.
Greg
Kaye
01:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
While Boat Race is clearly an (upper) class event, it has been reasonably easy for the ruling elite to con-vince people that it is some kind of a working class event - were the lower orders can watch for free. So, in relation to the Boat Race, should not Wikipedia re-consider the term "British national institution"? .
References http://www.ox.ac.uk/news-and-events/The-University-Year/The-Boat-Race
This link is broken unsure how to take it out or fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbos2hm ( talk • contribs) 16:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedians, Why is the image representing the course West to East, i.e. a negative of the actuality? The course goes up river westwards, so why show the start on the right when it should be on the left? Unfortunately, I do not possess the skills to alter it, but I am sure someone else can. In hope, -- Po Kadzieli ( talk) 11:52, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
The lead states that "Cambridge has led Oxford in cumulative wins since 1928" - this isn't supported by the table on List of The Boat Race results#Main_race which shows Oxford still leading by 40-39 after the 1928 race. It looks like Cambridge levelled the score in 1929 and finally went ahead with a win in 1930. I don't want to change this article myself as I'm not really sure of the history and whether maybe some races are discounted as part of the overall score but it looks like something isn't correct somewhere. -- Bcp67 ( talk) 07:33, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 23:25, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
The Boat Race → The Boat Races – "The Boat Race" apparently has changed to "The Boat Races" to include the women's race too. The logo has now changed too, where it hadn't in 2015 (above). SethWhales talk 20:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Following on the discussion, I'll add the relevant move requests to move Category:The Boat Race and Template: The Boat Race to the plural since they both already cover both races. Whizz40 ( talk) 19:03, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
What happened in 1839, did Oxford sink or run aground? -- 95.222.186.244 ( talk) 16:09, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Currently, we have this article, which covers the men's race, and also the women's race in less detail (with separate infoboxes for both); and Women's Boat Race, which covers only the women's race.
I'd suggest we either need to (a) make this article more clearly about the men's race - explicitly specify this in the lead, remove the women's race infobox, remove "Men's Race" subheadings, move any women's race-specific content into the Women's Boat race article and mention the women's race only in passing or as relevant to the men's race; or (b) merge the two articles.
For what it's worth, the current official website uses "The Boat Race" to mean the entire event, and "The Men's Boat Race" and "The Women's Boat Race" for the separate races. I suspect, though, that in common parlance "The Boat Race" often means the men's event. TSP ( talk) 09:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
The section relating to the 1987 mutiny stated "A fitness test between Clark and Macdonald (in which the American triumphed) resulted in a call for the Scotsman's removal". However Macdonald was not mentioned in the text before this, so the statement lacked context. For this reason I have slightly amended the statement. Dunarc ( talk) 22:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
The following list of newspapers publishing in 1877 is based on that in "British Historical Facts 1830–1900" ed. Chris Cook and Brendan Keith (St Martin's Press, 1975).
Do we need "Cambridge has led Oxford in cumulative wins since 1930" and "Cambridge has led Oxford in cumulative wins since 1966". If both are accurate surely we only need the first. -- Bduke ( talk) 05:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
.... I see "harrods depositary". that's not how it's spelled in real life, & it changes the meaning quite substantially. is this out of ignorance or an archaic affectation on the part of our cartographer?
duncanrmi ( talk) 14:40, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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Will this be the one to complete the good topic? It has to be pretty close. I'll take a look at this one. Hog Farm Talk 21:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
More to come later. Hog Farm Talk 21:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to fail this one. There's failed verification, uncited text that has been outstanding for some time, unreliable sources, a very disjointed history section, and lead issues. TRM, I see you haven't edited this one in seven months, and it really doesn't feel prepared at all. Hog Farm Talk 22:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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The logo in this article is out of date - new logo on http://theboatraces.org/ has word "RACES" instead of "RACE". If anyone out there is a graphics geek, could they fix this? It seems non-trivial as right-clicking on the logo on the website doesn't offer any "save image" options, so it's apparently not a separate image file. Pam D 15:14, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 12:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
The Boat Race →
The Boat Races – This year the women's boat race is also happening on the tideway and the event has been re-branded as
The Boat Races. However, the BNY Mellon Boat Race and the Newton Women's Boat race remain as brand names for the specific races. It is also the case that all the information about the women's boat races preceding 2015 is contained in the article about the
Henley Boat Race. Given the complexity of this issue I thought it should be discussed before any move. Should this page be moved to The Boat Races? Alternatively should a seperate page be made for The Boat Races, and perhaps even one for the Women's Boat Race separate from the Henley Boat Races article?
Bosstopher (
talk)
18:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
*Support I am open to the idea of having one article for both events as
The Boat Races which would certainly avoid the
WP:SYSTEMATICBIAS of having the different classes of title. Otherwise I suggest keeping the title
The Boat Race for the history of related Boat Race events, and then have two sub and stub articles:
Results of The Boat Race, men's event and
Results of The Boat Race, women's event. In any case, since 1965, there have been two events in "The Boat Race", the main race and the reserve race.
In both contents:
Template:Cambridge University Rowing Clubs and
Template:Oxford University Rowing Clubs, the "event" is called
The Boat Race. As far as I remember, and I have watched "it" most years, "The Boat Race" has always referred to the whole event. If the event, associated with Oxford and Cambridge geniuses, is finally being titled with correct grammar, then good luck to them.
Greg
Kaye
01:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
While Boat Race is clearly an (upper) class event, it has been reasonably easy for the ruling elite to con-vince people that it is some kind of a working class event - were the lower orders can watch for free. So, in relation to the Boat Race, should not Wikipedia re-consider the term "British national institution"? .
References http://www.ox.ac.uk/news-and-events/The-University-Year/The-Boat-Race
This link is broken unsure how to take it out or fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbos2hm ( talk • contribs) 16:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedians, Why is the image representing the course West to East, i.e. a negative of the actuality? The course goes up river westwards, so why show the start on the right when it should be on the left? Unfortunately, I do not possess the skills to alter it, but I am sure someone else can. In hope, -- Po Kadzieli ( talk) 11:52, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
The lead states that "Cambridge has led Oxford in cumulative wins since 1928" - this isn't supported by the table on List of The Boat Race results#Main_race which shows Oxford still leading by 40-39 after the 1928 race. It looks like Cambridge levelled the score in 1929 and finally went ahead with a win in 1930. I don't want to change this article myself as I'm not really sure of the history and whether maybe some races are discounted as part of the overall score but it looks like something isn't correct somewhere. -- Bcp67 ( talk) 07:33, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 23:25, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
The Boat Race → The Boat Races – "The Boat Race" apparently has changed to "The Boat Races" to include the women's race too. The logo has now changed too, where it hadn't in 2015 (above). SethWhales talk 20:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Following on the discussion, I'll add the relevant move requests to move Category:The Boat Race and Template: The Boat Race to the plural since they both already cover both races. Whizz40 ( talk) 19:03, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
What happened in 1839, did Oxford sink or run aground? -- 95.222.186.244 ( talk) 16:09, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Currently, we have this article, which covers the men's race, and also the women's race in less detail (with separate infoboxes for both); and Women's Boat Race, which covers only the women's race.
I'd suggest we either need to (a) make this article more clearly about the men's race - explicitly specify this in the lead, remove the women's race infobox, remove "Men's Race" subheadings, move any women's race-specific content into the Women's Boat race article and mention the women's race only in passing or as relevant to the men's race; or (b) merge the two articles.
For what it's worth, the current official website uses "The Boat Race" to mean the entire event, and "The Men's Boat Race" and "The Women's Boat Race" for the separate races. I suspect, though, that in common parlance "The Boat Race" often means the men's event. TSP ( talk) 09:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
The section relating to the 1987 mutiny stated "A fitness test between Clark and Macdonald (in which the American triumphed) resulted in a call for the Scotsman's removal". However Macdonald was not mentioned in the text before this, so the statement lacked context. For this reason I have slightly amended the statement. Dunarc ( talk) 22:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
The following list of newspapers publishing in 1877 is based on that in "British Historical Facts 1830–1900" ed. Chris Cook and Brendan Keith (St Martin's Press, 1975).
Do we need "Cambridge has led Oxford in cumulative wins since 1930" and "Cambridge has led Oxford in cumulative wins since 1966". If both are accurate surely we only need the first. -- Bduke ( talk) 05:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
.... I see "harrods depositary". that's not how it's spelled in real life, & it changes the meaning quite substantially. is this out of ignorance or an archaic affectation on the part of our cartographer?
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Will this be the one to complete the good topic? It has to be pretty close. I'll take a look at this one. Hog Farm Talk 21:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
More to come later. Hog Farm Talk 21:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to fail this one. There's failed verification, uncited text that has been outstanding for some time, unreliable sources, a very disjointed history section, and lead issues. TRM, I see you haven't edited this one in seven months, and it really doesn't feel prepared at all. Hog Farm Talk 22:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)