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I could believe that all Presidents since the 26 or 27th President have stayed there. However, since it was built in 1910 and the last 26 presidents would include Presidents who were dead when the building was built, we need to clarify this fact.—Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Antonio, I am sure you're gonna love this. I am sorry, I just had to...
I am hereby failing this article's nomination for the Good Article status for not complying with the following Good Article Criteria:
Some more detailed issues, some minor, some more major, in the order I have noticed them not in the order of weight:
Well, I could go on for much longer, but I guess the above is more than enough to prove the article does not merit to be promoted to GA. Actually, I find it one of the weakest GA nominations from WikiProject Chicago, and I have already noted the level of the nominations is not that high anyway. I find it quite disappointing to see the same issues recurring, as well as fundamental flaws in those articles. I do admire the efforts on behalf of WikiProject Chicago to afford so many of the city's features a developed article, but while the source-digging capabilities of the project are really good, you could use more help in copyediting and organizing content in articles. Perhaps there are some hidden talents among project members, or you could recruit somebody? PrinceGloria 18:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
The National Register nom form:
Though they aren't all online many are available through the HAARGIS Database, other surveys and background documents are sometimes attached to the PDFs too, not in this case though. I should note that his particular nomination form states that the building is cast in Second Empire. I suppose it could be considered a combination of Beaux Arts and Second Empire because of the facade decoration at the top and symmetry but its lack of facade decoration as a whole is pretty much Second Empire, I would note both and say the sources disagree.
Most of my information comes from reading I do, you can use this book: McAlester, Virginia & Lee. A Field Guide to American Houses, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc, New York: 1984, ( ISBN 0394739698), pp. 241-242 and pp. 378-379. as a secondary reference about the style stuff I noted above. The pages I noted contain a good outline of the two styles in general, though the book is about houses the stuff about each style is fairly all encompassing. IvoShandor 15:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed the skyline pic. It pretty much violating the MOS which states not to size images. Also it wasn't very helpful to the article. The Blackstone Hotel (a place I am sure almost no one outside of Chicago is familiar with) is not a prominent feature of the Chicago skyline nor is particularly encyclpedic to include a mostly unrelated photo in the text, especially one so large and unwieldy---I feel sorry for eveyone connecting via dial up from Kenya. The hotel isn't labeled on the photo anyway leaving readers to guess which building is on the far left it is and what exactly is meant by far left. Overall this photo detracted from the article. How about some interior photos, if you can enter, you can shoot (legally anyway). IvoShandor 22:46, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The pop culture section absolutely needs to go as a collection of trivia it does not merit includion in the articlem the president thing can be mentioned in the history. I would never pass a GA that kept a trivia section like this, trivia (no matter what it's called) is, by its very nature, trivial and not notable. IvoShandor 22:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Lame section follows: (also I hate emporis anyway, there are much better sources available anyway) IvoShandor 14:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Celebrity guests have included at least 12 U.S. Presidents: Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Richard Nixon, and Jimmy Carter. The poet Carl Sandburg celebrated his 75th birthday in this hotel. Opera tenor Enrico Caruso was present at the opening of the hotel. Other famous of the hotel have included Rudolph Valentino, Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., Joan Crawford, Spencer Tracy, Katherine Hepburn, Betty Grable, Tyrone Power, Bette Davis, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Vincent Price, Tennessee Williams, and Truman Capote. Additionally, Mayor of Chicago Richard J. Daley used this hotel for various occasions, including his sons' weddings. [1]
The hotel has been used in the films "The Babe," "The Untouchables," and "The Color of Money."
(undent)As a side note on the Daley thing, the source used in the sentence about Daley from the pop culture section ( [1]) besides it being emporis, which I loathe, it doesn't imply that the hotel is Daley's favorite, simply states he used it for a few occasions. Also I added the line about Presidential guests but it needs a source. IvoShandor 19:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
References
I have made some preliminary tweaks, including removing the pop culture section to the talk page here. I will be expanding the article's architecture section significantly as well as discussing the significance of the building in its own section. I have already removed and added some stuff, never fear if something you think is important is gone right now, this is a work in progress.
In the meantime I would suggest that someone work on an article for the architect, Benjamin Marshall (architect) would be the page to put it on. We have a Marshall and Fox article, so that might be a good place to start. This little project may take me a couple days because if I go too long without writing something about Prairie School or Frank Lloyd Wright my head asplodes. ; ) IvoShandor 14:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I've reviewed this article and think that it is well written and informative. The article almost meets the Good Article criteria, but there are some issues, particularly sources, that I think should be dealt with before it becomes a GA. In the list below, the suggestions in normal type are issues that need to be addressed before the article is passed. You can take or leave the suggestions in italics. I'll put the article on hold for seven days to give you some time to address the issues.
Lead section:
History section:
Hotel and politics section:
21st century redevelopment section:
Reference issues:
*Reference
#2 -- I cannot access this website because of a network error. This might be a temporary issue.
This is quite a long list, but most of the issues can be fixed quickly. Please let me know if I can clarify anything. Bláthnaid 19:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Great photographs! The only small issue left is the deadlink on citation note #5. You could just take out the information it cites -- "as part of the restorations all sconces and chandeliers were restored" -- and I will pass the GA. Kudos for all your hard work. Bláthnaid 19:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Well written, very informative, and very well illustrated article.
Couple of ISOs in captions need to be US format. Tony (talk) 14:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The NYT source says the smoke-filled room is on the ninth floor but I don't think that's right. I've got two sources here, "The Shadow of Blooming Grove" by Russell and "The Teapot Dome Scandal: How Big Oil Bought the Harding White House and Tried to Steal the Country" by McCartney, that say it's rooms 404-410. I stayed in that room once, and can report that it's on the fourth floor. I only stayed in 404, the other rooms are connected but when used as a suite the entrance is at 404. There was a plaque on the door that said this was the room. Might be interesting to track down the original UP story from 1920 and see if it gives a room number. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 18:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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I could believe that all Presidents since the 26 or 27th President have stayed there. However, since it was built in 1910 and the last 26 presidents would include Presidents who were dead when the building was built, we need to clarify this fact.—Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Antonio, I am sure you're gonna love this. I am sorry, I just had to...
I am hereby failing this article's nomination for the Good Article status for not complying with the following Good Article Criteria:
Some more detailed issues, some minor, some more major, in the order I have noticed them not in the order of weight:
Well, I could go on for much longer, but I guess the above is more than enough to prove the article does not merit to be promoted to GA. Actually, I find it one of the weakest GA nominations from WikiProject Chicago, and I have already noted the level of the nominations is not that high anyway. I find it quite disappointing to see the same issues recurring, as well as fundamental flaws in those articles. I do admire the efforts on behalf of WikiProject Chicago to afford so many of the city's features a developed article, but while the source-digging capabilities of the project are really good, you could use more help in copyediting and organizing content in articles. Perhaps there are some hidden talents among project members, or you could recruit somebody? PrinceGloria 18:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
The National Register nom form:
Though they aren't all online many are available through the HAARGIS Database, other surveys and background documents are sometimes attached to the PDFs too, not in this case though. I should note that his particular nomination form states that the building is cast in Second Empire. I suppose it could be considered a combination of Beaux Arts and Second Empire because of the facade decoration at the top and symmetry but its lack of facade decoration as a whole is pretty much Second Empire, I would note both and say the sources disagree.
Most of my information comes from reading I do, you can use this book: McAlester, Virginia & Lee. A Field Guide to American Houses, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc, New York: 1984, ( ISBN 0394739698), pp. 241-242 and pp. 378-379. as a secondary reference about the style stuff I noted above. The pages I noted contain a good outline of the two styles in general, though the book is about houses the stuff about each style is fairly all encompassing. IvoShandor 15:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed the skyline pic. It pretty much violating the MOS which states not to size images. Also it wasn't very helpful to the article. The Blackstone Hotel (a place I am sure almost no one outside of Chicago is familiar with) is not a prominent feature of the Chicago skyline nor is particularly encyclpedic to include a mostly unrelated photo in the text, especially one so large and unwieldy---I feel sorry for eveyone connecting via dial up from Kenya. The hotel isn't labeled on the photo anyway leaving readers to guess which building is on the far left it is and what exactly is meant by far left. Overall this photo detracted from the article. How about some interior photos, if you can enter, you can shoot (legally anyway). IvoShandor 22:46, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The pop culture section absolutely needs to go as a collection of trivia it does not merit includion in the articlem the president thing can be mentioned in the history. I would never pass a GA that kept a trivia section like this, trivia (no matter what it's called) is, by its very nature, trivial and not notable. IvoShandor 22:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Lame section follows: (also I hate emporis anyway, there are much better sources available anyway) IvoShandor 14:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Celebrity guests have included at least 12 U.S. Presidents: Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Richard Nixon, and Jimmy Carter. The poet Carl Sandburg celebrated his 75th birthday in this hotel. Opera tenor Enrico Caruso was present at the opening of the hotel. Other famous of the hotel have included Rudolph Valentino, Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., Joan Crawford, Spencer Tracy, Katherine Hepburn, Betty Grable, Tyrone Power, Bette Davis, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Vincent Price, Tennessee Williams, and Truman Capote. Additionally, Mayor of Chicago Richard J. Daley used this hotel for various occasions, including his sons' weddings. [1]
The hotel has been used in the films "The Babe," "The Untouchables," and "The Color of Money."
(undent)As a side note on the Daley thing, the source used in the sentence about Daley from the pop culture section ( [1]) besides it being emporis, which I loathe, it doesn't imply that the hotel is Daley's favorite, simply states he used it for a few occasions. Also I added the line about Presidential guests but it needs a source. IvoShandor 19:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
References
I have made some preliminary tweaks, including removing the pop culture section to the talk page here. I will be expanding the article's architecture section significantly as well as discussing the significance of the building in its own section. I have already removed and added some stuff, never fear if something you think is important is gone right now, this is a work in progress.
In the meantime I would suggest that someone work on an article for the architect, Benjamin Marshall (architect) would be the page to put it on. We have a Marshall and Fox article, so that might be a good place to start. This little project may take me a couple days because if I go too long without writing something about Prairie School or Frank Lloyd Wright my head asplodes. ; ) IvoShandor 14:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I've reviewed this article and think that it is well written and informative. The article almost meets the Good Article criteria, but there are some issues, particularly sources, that I think should be dealt with before it becomes a GA. In the list below, the suggestions in normal type are issues that need to be addressed before the article is passed. You can take or leave the suggestions in italics. I'll put the article on hold for seven days to give you some time to address the issues.
Lead section:
History section:
Hotel and politics section:
21st century redevelopment section:
Reference issues:
*Reference
#2 -- I cannot access this website because of a network error. This might be a temporary issue.
This is quite a long list, but most of the issues can be fixed quickly. Please let me know if I can clarify anything. Bláthnaid 19:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Great photographs! The only small issue left is the deadlink on citation note #5. You could just take out the information it cites -- "as part of the restorations all sconces and chandeliers were restored" -- and I will pass the GA. Kudos for all your hard work. Bláthnaid 19:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Well written, very informative, and very well illustrated article.
Couple of ISOs in captions need to be US format. Tony (talk) 14:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The NYT source says the smoke-filled room is on the ninth floor but I don't think that's right. I've got two sources here, "The Shadow of Blooming Grove" by Russell and "The Teapot Dome Scandal: How Big Oil Bought the Harding White House and Tried to Steal the Country" by McCartney, that say it's rooms 404-410. I stayed in that room once, and can report that it's on the fourth floor. I only stayed in 404, the other rooms are connected but when used as a suite the entrance is at 404. There was a plaque on the door that said this was the room. Might be interesting to track down the original UP story from 1920 and see if it gives a room number. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 18:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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This 2008 Good Article has three citation needed tags and some MOS:EDITORIAL problems. Spinixster (chat!) 01:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)