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There's a problem with this whole article... there is no such street called "The Bailey". There are two streets which run along the peninsula: North Bailey, and South Bailey. The latter is an extension of the the former, but the two together don't change their name! However, it might be fair to say that "The Bailey" is an alternative/nickname for the peninsula itself. DWaterson 18:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
To clarify the archived vote on this subject, after a couple of vote changes and non-standard completion of the voting form (such as expressing an opinion in the discussion without submitting a clear vote), there was no overall agreement, the results being 50/50:
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Against
The result of the debate was don't move. — Nightst a llion (?) 08:27, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
The Bailey → Durham Peninsula – More accurate name applied to the whole area, rather than this which strictly applies only to the street itself
Well, I would argue that 'peninsula' is just as vague a term. I would say that its start/end is far less certain. The bailey starts where owengate comes off that other road; there used to be a gatehouse there to mark it. It is then generally used to mean the whole peninsula 'beyond' that. Perhaps 'Durham Peninsula' or 'The Peninsula, Durham' could redirect here and be emboldened in the intro, to show that this has, effectively, two titles? Robdurbar 10:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article mention the congestion charge zone? 213.249.235.86 09:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the title of this article is hopelessly confusing. It is not clear whether it refers to the peninsula as a whole or specifically to North and South Bailey. To say that some people refer to the whole peninsula as the Bailey is to miss the point that the name Bailey is ambiguous, whereas calling it The Peninsula is not. I think the article about the peninsula should be located at The Peninsula, Durham. If we have an article called The Bailey, it should be specifically about North Bailey and South Bailey, because that is what the average person would expect (principle of least surprise). And the claim made above that everyone in Durham calls the peninsula the Bailey is a claim that cannot be supported by editors asserting they live in Durham, as such assertions cannot be verified. For all we know editors who claim they live in Durham might actually live in Timbuktu or Vladivostock. It also happens to be WP:OR. I don't see any reliable sources saying this is the normal name. Reliable publications like Margot Johnson's seem to generally call it the peninsula or the Durham peninsula etc. James500 ( talk) 02:31, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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There's a problem with this whole article... there is no such street called "The Bailey". There are two streets which run along the peninsula: North Bailey, and South Bailey. The latter is an extension of the the former, but the two together don't change their name! However, it might be fair to say that "The Bailey" is an alternative/nickname for the peninsula itself. DWaterson 18:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
To clarify the archived vote on this subject, after a couple of vote changes and non-standard completion of the voting form (such as expressing an opinion in the discussion without submitting a clear vote), there was no overall agreement, the results being 50/50:
For
Against
The result of the debate was don't move. — Nightst a llion (?) 08:27, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
The Bailey → Durham Peninsula – More accurate name applied to the whole area, rather than this which strictly applies only to the street itself
Well, I would argue that 'peninsula' is just as vague a term. I would say that its start/end is far less certain. The bailey starts where owengate comes off that other road; there used to be a gatehouse there to mark it. It is then generally used to mean the whole peninsula 'beyond' that. Perhaps 'Durham Peninsula' or 'The Peninsula, Durham' could redirect here and be emboldened in the intro, to show that this has, effectively, two titles? Robdurbar 10:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article mention the congestion charge zone? 213.249.235.86 09:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the title of this article is hopelessly confusing. It is not clear whether it refers to the peninsula as a whole or specifically to North and South Bailey. To say that some people refer to the whole peninsula as the Bailey is to miss the point that the name Bailey is ambiguous, whereas calling it The Peninsula is not. I think the article about the peninsula should be located at The Peninsula, Durham. If we have an article called The Bailey, it should be specifically about North Bailey and South Bailey, because that is what the average person would expect (principle of least surprise). And the claim made above that everyone in Durham calls the peninsula the Bailey is a claim that cannot be supported by editors asserting they live in Durham, as such assertions cannot be verified. For all we know editors who claim they live in Durham might actually live in Timbuktu or Vladivostock. It also happens to be WP:OR. I don't see any reliable sources saying this is the normal name. Reliable publications like Margot Johnson's seem to generally call it the peninsula or the Durham peninsula etc. James500 ( talk) 02:31, 28 March 2018 (UTC)