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I have no clue what "Gaff is", but this section feels out of place
This episode is particularly notable for highlighting the inherent flaw in the definition of "warp drive" on Star Trek as the "cube of the warp number times the speed of light". While containing internal references to one or more preceding episodes, this episode also states an approximate time since the ship left earth at the start of the series. It also states the star the Vulcan Monastery is orbiting. That star would have been just barely attainable at the ship's maximum warp in the given time frame if the ship had travelled directly from earth with no diversions to the locations of the other episodes. Hence, either the other episodes' events did not happen or the ship travelled much faster than its stated maximum warp for a substantial portion of the time.
In actual fact, this is a common underlying problem with Star Trek and the warp drive definition. While it seems adequately high, it's actually woefully inadequate, in all of the series, to have the ship travelling between all the various adventure locations it must encounter in the course of the series' run. The Andorian Incident is a specific, undebatable example of this problem, while the rest are merely questionably unlikely.
This article, if kept as is, really needs a much shorter plot length. As it is, it consists of nothing more than plot and doesn't really come up with much in the way of notability (see project talk page). WikiuserNI ( talk) 16:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
For when the article is re-written, here's something I pulled from a magazine while researching Shran; I felt it was more appropriate in this article (though I'm not sure where) than the character piece. — fourthords | =Λ= | 20:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Before the episode aired, guest star Jeffrey Combs described his character ( Shran) as an " Andorian terrorist." In an interview with the Star Trek Communicator, Rick Berman disputed that, describing the character as "more of an Andorian James Bond. He's an Andorian on a very important reconnaissance mission." - Madsen, Dan (December 2001 – January 2002). "Star Trek Update". Star Trek Communicator (136). Aurora, Colorado: Decipher, Inc.: 14–16. ISSN 1080-3793.
The Project Star Trek box above includes an image needed request and I do hope someone will consider resolving that request at some stage. As this episode is called The Andorian Incident and since it (re)introduces the blue skinned alien species to the series, it is essential to proper understanding of the episode to include an image from the show that includes an Andorian. The episode is about the conflict between the Andorians and the Vulcans so it would be good to have an image that included both
[1] like one of the images Memory Alpha used in their episode article.
StarTrek.com did include some publicity images on their page for this episode
[2] and one of those images
[3]
[4]
[5]
might be suitable. --
109.76.193.171 (
talk)
20:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
I might add a few of these to the article later, but I went down this
rabbit hole and I've wastedspent too much time on it already to do it properly now. --
109.78.194.99 (
talk)
01:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
I have added an episode commentary with writer Fred Dekker to the External links section. [12] Having listened to the commentary yesterday the things that stand out (aside from the praise for various people) were his reservations about the episode, description of the episode as "languorous" (slow paced), his disappointment with the score (no slight on the composer, it was what the producers intended). Dekker also says the title was originally "The Incident at P'Jem". Maybe it could be linked using the {{ External media}} template instead but that seemed unnecessarily overcomplicated. Maybe it could be used as an inline reference (to expand the Production a little bit more), but I much prefer using texts as references if at all possible. -- 109.79.175.77 ( talk) 14:56, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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I have no clue what "Gaff is", but this section feels out of place
This episode is particularly notable for highlighting the inherent flaw in the definition of "warp drive" on Star Trek as the "cube of the warp number times the speed of light". While containing internal references to one or more preceding episodes, this episode also states an approximate time since the ship left earth at the start of the series. It also states the star the Vulcan Monastery is orbiting. That star would have been just barely attainable at the ship's maximum warp in the given time frame if the ship had travelled directly from earth with no diversions to the locations of the other episodes. Hence, either the other episodes' events did not happen or the ship travelled much faster than its stated maximum warp for a substantial portion of the time.
In actual fact, this is a common underlying problem with Star Trek and the warp drive definition. While it seems adequately high, it's actually woefully inadequate, in all of the series, to have the ship travelling between all the various adventure locations it must encounter in the course of the series' run. The Andorian Incident is a specific, undebatable example of this problem, while the rest are merely questionably unlikely.
This article, if kept as is, really needs a much shorter plot length. As it is, it consists of nothing more than plot and doesn't really come up with much in the way of notability (see project talk page). WikiuserNI ( talk) 16:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
For when the article is re-written, here's something I pulled from a magazine while researching Shran; I felt it was more appropriate in this article (though I'm not sure where) than the character piece. — fourthords | =Λ= | 20:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Before the episode aired, guest star Jeffrey Combs described his character ( Shran) as an " Andorian terrorist." In an interview with the Star Trek Communicator, Rick Berman disputed that, describing the character as "more of an Andorian James Bond. He's an Andorian on a very important reconnaissance mission." - Madsen, Dan (December 2001 – January 2002). "Star Trek Update". Star Trek Communicator (136). Aurora, Colorado: Decipher, Inc.: 14–16. ISSN 1080-3793.
The Project Star Trek box above includes an image needed request and I do hope someone will consider resolving that request at some stage. As this episode is called The Andorian Incident and since it (re)introduces the blue skinned alien species to the series, it is essential to proper understanding of the episode to include an image from the show that includes an Andorian. The episode is about the conflict between the Andorians and the Vulcans so it would be good to have an image that included both
[1] like one of the images Memory Alpha used in their episode article.
StarTrek.com did include some publicity images on their page for this episode
[2] and one of those images
[3]
[4]
[5]
might be suitable. --
109.76.193.171 (
talk)
20:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
I might add a few of these to the article later, but I went down this
rabbit hole and I've wastedspent too much time on it already to do it properly now. --
109.78.194.99 (
talk)
01:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
I have added an episode commentary with writer Fred Dekker to the External links section. [12] Having listened to the commentary yesterday the things that stand out (aside from the praise for various people) were his reservations about the episode, description of the episode as "languorous" (slow paced), his disappointment with the score (no slight on the composer, it was what the producers intended). Dekker also says the title was originally "The Incident at P'Jem". Maybe it could be linked using the {{ External media}} template instead but that seemed unnecessarily overcomplicated. Maybe it could be used as an inline reference (to expand the Production a little bit more), but I much prefer using texts as references if at all possible. -- 109.79.175.77 ( talk) 14:56, 28 April 2022 (UTC)