4 person teams... eek! Any ideas on how to squeeze the names of team members, without making the table too cluttered? -- Madchester 14:08, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
Anyone have a screenshot of the title screen with the 'Family Edition' subtitle? That would serve well as a new graphic at the top of the article... Radagast 12:35, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm not bothering to screencap this season. It's so subpar compared to previous seasons. It's worse than Season 4, which was bottom of the barrel in TAR quality. I'll be back for Season 9. Cheers. -- Madchester 19:27, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
This season was a shock to me. When I saw the opening Intro, I figured that it will be a trans-America Race not a global one. Which reduced my intrest by over 50%, second, the bigger teams made the already annoying feuds even worse. Last of all, I can't believe that the clues were washed out even more since season 7, I was already outraged by the simple detours and roadblocks given and the reducing number of route markers in Season 7, but this is just unacceptable. I know it's impossible to get the classic season 5 back but instead of mass producing numberous subpar Amazing Races, CBS should start making fine adjustments and make every season an enjoyable one. - Mouselmm
Heaven forbid they ever try something different. Most of the "criticism" I've seen on-line has been fan-griping that things aren't *exactly* the same as previous seasons. 4 person teams! Roadtrips! No foreign languages! The USA is a big country with vast cultural diversity. And most Americans(including myself) haven't seen most of it. It's sad if people think the Amazing Race(or travelling in general) is all about funny languages and getting lost in European train terminals. Comments like "I was already outraged" or "This is just unacceptable" are why fans should never be in charge of the programs they admire. The first episode was enjoyable. Only one team didn't stand out and the challenges gave teams plenty of opportunities to leap ahead (or fall behind). -- Aexia 03:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Spoilers show that the race is not entirely in the USA (a reporter found a pit stop in, IIRC, Belize, though it went unused due to Hurricane Emily), and even without these it should not be assumed that it is only in the US until the end. SonicAD
This season will be comprised of less episodes, I think, considering we have too few teams to make it a 13-leg race. Should this go in the article? Can anyone find a reference to how many more weeks of season 8 there are? Cabus
"This also marks the first time the location sign at the pitstop does not name the country, as Leg 1's read Pennsylvania." This is not true, as past seasons have had pitstop signs reading "Hawaii" and "Alaska". Cabus
I'm the 162.84.221.109 who messed up signing...i'm a new wikipedian so i apologize for the unclear comment All I did was re-sort the results table and fix the top column widths Timr917 02:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I just found it ironic that the Travelocity trip will be taking the Weaver family out of the country, whereas the Race has yet to do so. -- Madchester 05:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't recall having heard Phil say that no one person can perform more than X roadblocks during the entire race. Does this mean they do not have a limit this season, or did I just not hear it, or are they just not saying it? Andy Janata 04:49, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
According to my map, Washington Crossing State Park is in New Jersey, not Pennsylvania. There are towns named Washington Crossing in both states, so that's probably what caused the confusion. I would change it, but I have no clue how to change the flag in the entry. Thanks )
Can we agree to not post episode information prior to the airdate? I see that as of today (8 Oct 2005) there is information on Episode 3 listing the route from Virginia to Huntsville, Alabama. The episode does not air until 11 October. Whether this info is speculation or gained from spoilers, I think it makes sense to wait until the show has aired to post this information. 24.60.184.196 22:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually we should be allowed to post information about upcoming episodes... as long as there's a verifiable source or sources. That's the policy that we've used in covering past seasons of the Race.
Like last week someone put in the Gettysburg bit and it was inaccurate... such rumours should be avoided. But there's a lot of photos and even media reports of teams actually AT the Huntsville U.S. Space & Rocket Center About.com article Bransen family photo, so then it would be okay to include that info in the Leg 3 details. It's no different than the AOL or CBS web previews readily available for download each week.
Last year, Gretchen was posting details of future legs on a website, and those details were added to The Amazing Race 7 page immediately. Likewise, every Canadian newspaper was abuzz with details of the Calgary/Banff leg in the finale of Season5. Wikipedia should be a resource of information... we shouldn't be restricting material, especially when there's already a spoiler tag to warn readers. -- Madchester 18:05, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
If you want to add a separate The Amazing Race spoiler article, that's fine. But I don't see the point in putting up partial route information for an episode that hasn't aired yet based on spoilers or blogs. Even if you post a spoiler tag, it only serves to turn away a lot of readers who might otherwise want to read the article because they don't want to be spoiled. Again, I think it makes more sense to keep the Episode information complete, which can only be done after it airs and to keep spoilers to a minimum because most people do not want to be spoiled. 24.60.184.196 03:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
-- Madchester 06:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
1) Incomplete
and
2) Not necessarily accurate
I'm positive Episode 3 will include more than a trip from Virginia to Huntsville, Alabama. So after the Episode airs someone will go back in and fill in the missing parts of the Episode. At the very least you might want to change the heading for non-aired episodes to say something like "Preliminary Information for Episode XX." If you want to include what preliminary information you have on pre-aired episode, make it very clear that the information on those episodes came not from watching the aired episodes but from preliminary information gained from news reports or wherever and will be completed on whatever date. There's a difference between partial information and a spoiler.
Also, you mentioned that posted partial spoiler info on non-aired information was done in past seasons. I looked a the discussion for past seasons and it seems to be that you were the sole champion of this approach. It appears that majority of people favor keeping the Amazing Race episode information a documented record of what has aired, including roadblocks, detours, etc., not preliminary guesses or spoiler-based info. I think a separate The Amazing Race Spoilers and Speculation Article might be a good place to air all the partial or unconfirmed information about unaired episodes.
Also, Wikipedia is very much a "discriminatory source of information." For example, it does not (or should not) include information that represents individual points of view. It also does not contain information that is original research. And it should contain as complete information as possible. Wikipedia is extremely
discriminatory. That's what makes it good.
71.195.206.168
12:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
-- Madchester 16:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Can we at a minimum agree to only put items that have been publicly released by CBS? That includes press releases, website info and episode previews. Anything that relates to who gets eliminated in future episodes or ultimately wins should be absolutely off-limits for this article. I know a lot of people enjoy spoilers(I used to) but don't ruin it for everyone else. People come here to learn about the current state of the race and where it's been, not to find out the Weavers will walk away with the million in 8 weeks. Aexia 17:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
"If you haven't read or seen the work to which the warning refers, you might want to do so before reading the spoiler in the article."
In the bit talking about where Phil toured looking for contestants, it says Kansas City, and it links to a disambiguation page. Is it Kansas City, Missouri, Kansas City, Kansas, or one of the other obscure cities listed on the disambig page? Andy Janata 16:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I will hide the Roadblocks performed in this article. And no one see the roadblocks performed and it hides itself. ApprenticeFan, October 10, 2005.
I have on several occassions changed the sentence "Filming took place..." to "Taping took place" because The Amazing Race is videotaped not shot on film. Someone keeps reverting it. Can we keep it as "tape" please? I understand some Wikipedians working on this article don't like changes, but "taping" is accurate, I'm sure. TAR is not filmed, it's taped. Let's not make this personal and revert changes just for the sake of reverting things. WIkipedia is supposed to be a community. Come on. 71.195.206.168 22:03, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, filmed is more appropriate; taped is more commonly used in the context of a television studio, i.e., "this show was taped before a studio audience". You usually don't use the term "taping" when most of the shooting takes place away from a controlled indoor environment. For example, if you look at several Race articles:
-- Madchester 03:29, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I've added the scandal both to the General section of Season 8 and the criticisms of the race itself. What a shame. Jendeyoung 05:27, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
on the amazing race website under teams is pictures of teams, the order of the pictures has never changed place. The Black family is on the top right of the page, the Rogers family is next to them, next to them is the Aiello family and next to them are the Schroeder family. That is the order in which they have left the race, so does this mean that the winners are the bottom left team on the page???????
Umm, that's a coincidence.... That photo was taken at the beginning of the race in Brooklyn. This is just like last season, when there was a "pattern" in the team photo backgrounds and order of elimination.... --
Madchester
04:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Also, now that the Paulo's (or whatever) are out, they are in the middle of row two.
{{Spoiler about|(future legs of the race)}}
I removed the Niagara Falls bit, because it's speculation at best. I've seen the photo of the cluebox but, it could easily be a decoy... just like how they had decoy runs in Dallas and NYC last season. Like last season, Gretchen was at the Dallas Book Depository for a fake leg, and she was instructed to purposely drop a clue in front of a crowd, so that people could see physical evidence of the race "actually being there" and throw people off. There's not even a photo of a single team (real or decoy) at the Falls cluebox. Not enough hard evidence to warrant mention...
This isn't like those photos from past seasons, where they clearly revealed multiple teams at a single location. In Season 5 we had photos of team participating in the actual roadblock in Banff [1], released a week before the show was aired. In Season 7, there were photos of teams at the airport in San Juan, Puetro Rico, which were online around the beginning of the race. Uchenna and Joyce, Ron asking for directions, etc. Those Falls photos are inconclusive at best.
{{endspoiler}}
Does anybody think it would be a good idea to include the prizes that each leg's first place team receives at the pit stop, in this article? Or even incorporate it into a supplementary article? They only started giving prizes 2 seasons ago, but I would like to know what each team won on each leg. Shifter55 18:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I missed the fifth episode, but from what I've heard, it was made clear that the Paolos won the one and only Fast Forward on the race. In Leg 6, however, the teams can clearly be seen holding the green Fast Forward clues. I'm thinking that since this one was not used, they referred to the first as the "only one". Any thoughts on this discrepancy?
I remember that the article originally said the Route Markers were yellow and white, then it was changed to yellow and silver. I to orginally thought they looked silver, but now they appear white to me! To resolve the discrepancy, the glossary at the official site calls them 'yellow and white', so I'm going to change it to that. If you have objections, post them.
Do we have a confirmed finale date yet? Speculation has centered on 12/6, 12/13 and 12/20 as possibilities.
69.15.112.82
14:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
The finale is scheduled for 12/13/05 and will be a two hour episode 69.15.112.82 22:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I was just reproducing on what is done in "Leg 5 Detour" where venues for the options were mentioned. So why is it that I could not do it for Leg 6 Detour where I should mention "Rainmaker Adventure Forest" for Relic and banana plantation (to be hopefully supplemented with the right venue) for Ripe?
Tell me, why can't I? Aeron Valderrama
I'm talking about this: "(Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute on Barro Colorado Island) >Detour (Rhythm or Coos)< (Rhythm or Coos)"... (see article page for more details) You see even if the Detour image tells where the venues were, there is still mention of the venues (it has links even)... so you see I'm just reproducing this practice! Aeron Valderrama
Lake Powell is entirely in Utah. Glen Canyon Dam may be in Arizona, but the lake is entirely within Utah. The artcle says it's in Arizona. Not to mention there's no info on Leg 7... bob rulz 04:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Someone's put 'climbing the chair' as the Roadblock in leg 4, albeit with a disclaimer. I think this should be removed - just because it's a task performed by one does not make it a roadblock, see the swim to the bouy at the start of yesterday's show.
The leg had no roadblock, simple as that. It seems they may have had one planned at Talladega but switched to the party boikes, I don't know; but there were no red envelopes in that episode, that I saw. Radagast 01:52, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know which rest stop the one team stopped at in episode one of the NJ Turnpike? To me it looked like the last stop before you hit the GW bridge (if heading north on the TP)
In the trivia section, I'm seeing details of how the Godlewski's finished first on two separate legs, a first for all-female teams. It doesn't make sense to draw comparisons when this season uses a different format than past seasons.-- Madchester 07:56, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thhere is no Montana leg. On the official amazing race 8 website, there isn't enough room for montana on the route map. Even if there is a Montana leg, "unknown ranch" isn't really what I would find in an ecyclopedia.
Route map: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race8/route/
As revealed in the episode which aired on December 6, the pit stop for the 10th leg was the Arnold Ranch in Absarokee, MT. The roadblock prior to the pit stop was at the Red Lodge Mountain Golf Course in Red Lodge, MT. I suggest that would therefore qualify as a Montana leg.
Some of the legs in the race have 3 locations. Where it says Virginia - Alabama, a detour and routemarker appeared in Chaleston. Alabama - Louisiana leg had 2 route markers there. Shouldn't these leg's titles read Virginia - South Carolina- Alabama and Alabama- Mississippi - Louisiana ? There are some others too. Why did you delete them Madchester? In season 3 they seem to be okay.
4 person teams... eek! Any ideas on how to squeeze the names of team members, without making the table too cluttered? -- Madchester 14:08, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
Anyone have a screenshot of the title screen with the 'Family Edition' subtitle? That would serve well as a new graphic at the top of the article... Radagast 12:35, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm not bothering to screencap this season. It's so subpar compared to previous seasons. It's worse than Season 4, which was bottom of the barrel in TAR quality. I'll be back for Season 9. Cheers. -- Madchester 19:27, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
This season was a shock to me. When I saw the opening Intro, I figured that it will be a trans-America Race not a global one. Which reduced my intrest by over 50%, second, the bigger teams made the already annoying feuds even worse. Last of all, I can't believe that the clues were washed out even more since season 7, I was already outraged by the simple detours and roadblocks given and the reducing number of route markers in Season 7, but this is just unacceptable. I know it's impossible to get the classic season 5 back but instead of mass producing numberous subpar Amazing Races, CBS should start making fine adjustments and make every season an enjoyable one. - Mouselmm
Heaven forbid they ever try something different. Most of the "criticism" I've seen on-line has been fan-griping that things aren't *exactly* the same as previous seasons. 4 person teams! Roadtrips! No foreign languages! The USA is a big country with vast cultural diversity. And most Americans(including myself) haven't seen most of it. It's sad if people think the Amazing Race(or travelling in general) is all about funny languages and getting lost in European train terminals. Comments like "I was already outraged" or "This is just unacceptable" are why fans should never be in charge of the programs they admire. The first episode was enjoyable. Only one team didn't stand out and the challenges gave teams plenty of opportunities to leap ahead (or fall behind). -- Aexia 03:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Spoilers show that the race is not entirely in the USA (a reporter found a pit stop in, IIRC, Belize, though it went unused due to Hurricane Emily), and even without these it should not be assumed that it is only in the US until the end. SonicAD
This season will be comprised of less episodes, I think, considering we have too few teams to make it a 13-leg race. Should this go in the article? Can anyone find a reference to how many more weeks of season 8 there are? Cabus
"This also marks the first time the location sign at the pitstop does not name the country, as Leg 1's read Pennsylvania." This is not true, as past seasons have had pitstop signs reading "Hawaii" and "Alaska". Cabus
I'm the 162.84.221.109 who messed up signing...i'm a new wikipedian so i apologize for the unclear comment All I did was re-sort the results table and fix the top column widths Timr917 02:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I just found it ironic that the Travelocity trip will be taking the Weaver family out of the country, whereas the Race has yet to do so. -- Madchester 05:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't recall having heard Phil say that no one person can perform more than X roadblocks during the entire race. Does this mean they do not have a limit this season, or did I just not hear it, or are they just not saying it? Andy Janata 04:49, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
According to my map, Washington Crossing State Park is in New Jersey, not Pennsylvania. There are towns named Washington Crossing in both states, so that's probably what caused the confusion. I would change it, but I have no clue how to change the flag in the entry. Thanks )
Can we agree to not post episode information prior to the airdate? I see that as of today (8 Oct 2005) there is information on Episode 3 listing the route from Virginia to Huntsville, Alabama. The episode does not air until 11 October. Whether this info is speculation or gained from spoilers, I think it makes sense to wait until the show has aired to post this information. 24.60.184.196 22:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually we should be allowed to post information about upcoming episodes... as long as there's a verifiable source or sources. That's the policy that we've used in covering past seasons of the Race.
Like last week someone put in the Gettysburg bit and it was inaccurate... such rumours should be avoided. But there's a lot of photos and even media reports of teams actually AT the Huntsville U.S. Space & Rocket Center About.com article Bransen family photo, so then it would be okay to include that info in the Leg 3 details. It's no different than the AOL or CBS web previews readily available for download each week.
Last year, Gretchen was posting details of future legs on a website, and those details were added to The Amazing Race 7 page immediately. Likewise, every Canadian newspaper was abuzz with details of the Calgary/Banff leg in the finale of Season5. Wikipedia should be a resource of information... we shouldn't be restricting material, especially when there's already a spoiler tag to warn readers. -- Madchester 18:05, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
If you want to add a separate The Amazing Race spoiler article, that's fine. But I don't see the point in putting up partial route information for an episode that hasn't aired yet based on spoilers or blogs. Even if you post a spoiler tag, it only serves to turn away a lot of readers who might otherwise want to read the article because they don't want to be spoiled. Again, I think it makes more sense to keep the Episode information complete, which can only be done after it airs and to keep spoilers to a minimum because most people do not want to be spoiled. 24.60.184.196 03:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
-- Madchester 06:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
1) Incomplete
and
2) Not necessarily accurate
I'm positive Episode 3 will include more than a trip from Virginia to Huntsville, Alabama. So after the Episode airs someone will go back in and fill in the missing parts of the Episode. At the very least you might want to change the heading for non-aired episodes to say something like "Preliminary Information for Episode XX." If you want to include what preliminary information you have on pre-aired episode, make it very clear that the information on those episodes came not from watching the aired episodes but from preliminary information gained from news reports or wherever and will be completed on whatever date. There's a difference between partial information and a spoiler.
Also, you mentioned that posted partial spoiler info on non-aired information was done in past seasons. I looked a the discussion for past seasons and it seems to be that you were the sole champion of this approach. It appears that majority of people favor keeping the Amazing Race episode information a documented record of what has aired, including roadblocks, detours, etc., not preliminary guesses or spoiler-based info. I think a separate The Amazing Race Spoilers and Speculation Article might be a good place to air all the partial or unconfirmed information about unaired episodes.
Also, Wikipedia is very much a "discriminatory source of information." For example, it does not (or should not) include information that represents individual points of view. It also does not contain information that is original research. And it should contain as complete information as possible. Wikipedia is extremely
discriminatory. That's what makes it good.
71.195.206.168
12:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
-- Madchester 16:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Can we at a minimum agree to only put items that have been publicly released by CBS? That includes press releases, website info and episode previews. Anything that relates to who gets eliminated in future episodes or ultimately wins should be absolutely off-limits for this article. I know a lot of people enjoy spoilers(I used to) but don't ruin it for everyone else. People come here to learn about the current state of the race and where it's been, not to find out the Weavers will walk away with the million in 8 weeks. Aexia 17:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
"If you haven't read or seen the work to which the warning refers, you might want to do so before reading the spoiler in the article."
In the bit talking about where Phil toured looking for contestants, it says Kansas City, and it links to a disambiguation page. Is it Kansas City, Missouri, Kansas City, Kansas, or one of the other obscure cities listed on the disambig page? Andy Janata 16:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I will hide the Roadblocks performed in this article. And no one see the roadblocks performed and it hides itself. ApprenticeFan, October 10, 2005.
I have on several occassions changed the sentence "Filming took place..." to "Taping took place" because The Amazing Race is videotaped not shot on film. Someone keeps reverting it. Can we keep it as "tape" please? I understand some Wikipedians working on this article don't like changes, but "taping" is accurate, I'm sure. TAR is not filmed, it's taped. Let's not make this personal and revert changes just for the sake of reverting things. WIkipedia is supposed to be a community. Come on. 71.195.206.168 22:03, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, filmed is more appropriate; taped is more commonly used in the context of a television studio, i.e., "this show was taped before a studio audience". You usually don't use the term "taping" when most of the shooting takes place away from a controlled indoor environment. For example, if you look at several Race articles:
-- Madchester 03:29, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I've added the scandal both to the General section of Season 8 and the criticisms of the race itself. What a shame. Jendeyoung 05:27, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
on the amazing race website under teams is pictures of teams, the order of the pictures has never changed place. The Black family is on the top right of the page, the Rogers family is next to them, next to them is the Aiello family and next to them are the Schroeder family. That is the order in which they have left the race, so does this mean that the winners are the bottom left team on the page???????
Umm, that's a coincidence.... That photo was taken at the beginning of the race in Brooklyn. This is just like last season, when there was a "pattern" in the team photo backgrounds and order of elimination.... --
Madchester
04:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Also, now that the Paulo's (or whatever) are out, they are in the middle of row two.
{{Spoiler about|(future legs of the race)}}
I removed the Niagara Falls bit, because it's speculation at best. I've seen the photo of the cluebox but, it could easily be a decoy... just like how they had decoy runs in Dallas and NYC last season. Like last season, Gretchen was at the Dallas Book Depository for a fake leg, and she was instructed to purposely drop a clue in front of a crowd, so that people could see physical evidence of the race "actually being there" and throw people off. There's not even a photo of a single team (real or decoy) at the Falls cluebox. Not enough hard evidence to warrant mention...
This isn't like those photos from past seasons, where they clearly revealed multiple teams at a single location. In Season 5 we had photos of team participating in the actual roadblock in Banff [1], released a week before the show was aired. In Season 7, there were photos of teams at the airport in San Juan, Puetro Rico, which were online around the beginning of the race. Uchenna and Joyce, Ron asking for directions, etc. Those Falls photos are inconclusive at best.
{{endspoiler}}
Does anybody think it would be a good idea to include the prizes that each leg's first place team receives at the pit stop, in this article? Or even incorporate it into a supplementary article? They only started giving prizes 2 seasons ago, but I would like to know what each team won on each leg. Shifter55 18:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I missed the fifth episode, but from what I've heard, it was made clear that the Paolos won the one and only Fast Forward on the race. In Leg 6, however, the teams can clearly be seen holding the green Fast Forward clues. I'm thinking that since this one was not used, they referred to the first as the "only one". Any thoughts on this discrepancy?
I remember that the article originally said the Route Markers were yellow and white, then it was changed to yellow and silver. I to orginally thought they looked silver, but now they appear white to me! To resolve the discrepancy, the glossary at the official site calls them 'yellow and white', so I'm going to change it to that. If you have objections, post them.
Do we have a confirmed finale date yet? Speculation has centered on 12/6, 12/13 and 12/20 as possibilities.
69.15.112.82
14:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
The finale is scheduled for 12/13/05 and will be a two hour episode 69.15.112.82 22:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I was just reproducing on what is done in "Leg 5 Detour" where venues for the options were mentioned. So why is it that I could not do it for Leg 6 Detour where I should mention "Rainmaker Adventure Forest" for Relic and banana plantation (to be hopefully supplemented with the right venue) for Ripe?
Tell me, why can't I? Aeron Valderrama
I'm talking about this: "(Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute on Barro Colorado Island) >Detour (Rhythm or Coos)< (Rhythm or Coos)"... (see article page for more details) You see even if the Detour image tells where the venues were, there is still mention of the venues (it has links even)... so you see I'm just reproducing this practice! Aeron Valderrama
Lake Powell is entirely in Utah. Glen Canyon Dam may be in Arizona, but the lake is entirely within Utah. The artcle says it's in Arizona. Not to mention there's no info on Leg 7... bob rulz 04:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Someone's put 'climbing the chair' as the Roadblock in leg 4, albeit with a disclaimer. I think this should be removed - just because it's a task performed by one does not make it a roadblock, see the swim to the bouy at the start of yesterday's show.
The leg had no roadblock, simple as that. It seems they may have had one planned at Talladega but switched to the party boikes, I don't know; but there were no red envelopes in that episode, that I saw. Radagast 01:52, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know which rest stop the one team stopped at in episode one of the NJ Turnpike? To me it looked like the last stop before you hit the GW bridge (if heading north on the TP)
In the trivia section, I'm seeing details of how the Godlewski's finished first on two separate legs, a first for all-female teams. It doesn't make sense to draw comparisons when this season uses a different format than past seasons.-- Madchester 07:56, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thhere is no Montana leg. On the official amazing race 8 website, there isn't enough room for montana on the route map. Even if there is a Montana leg, "unknown ranch" isn't really what I would find in an ecyclopedia.
Route map: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race8/route/
As revealed in the episode which aired on December 6, the pit stop for the 10th leg was the Arnold Ranch in Absarokee, MT. The roadblock prior to the pit stop was at the Red Lodge Mountain Golf Course in Red Lodge, MT. I suggest that would therefore qualify as a Montana leg.
Some of the legs in the race have 3 locations. Where it says Virginia - Alabama, a detour and routemarker appeared in Chaleston. Alabama - Louisiana leg had 2 route markers there. Shouldn't these leg's titles read Virginia - South Carolina- Alabama and Alabama- Mississippi - Louisiana ? There are some others too. Why did you delete them Madchester? In season 3 they seem to be okay.