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I'm sorry that I've had to reverse the changes that you made but I did so for the following reasons:
1) Your new summary does not improve the understanding of the book in any notable way. It also neglects the detail of a key feature of the story in that it doesn't name the alphabeticised victims or their places of residence. It also makes errors such as "A madman is killing people in Europe." The action of the story clearly takes place in the UK.
2) There are no links in your summary. Links are not essential in Wikipedia but they do indicate well-researched pages.
3) I'm sorry to have to say this but your spelling and grammar are not up to standard. Sentences such as "He Kills in order of the alphabet" and "The next murder doesn't happen and a man walks into the police station and told the police that he did the crimes" which changes tense in mid-sentence, are good examples. It also doesn't help when you name the detective as "Hurcule Poriot".--
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Is there some reason why this article is titled "The A.B.C. Murders", when the photo of the book's cover clearly reads "The ABC Murders"?
Aya T C 20:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
The title is ABC Murders NOT A.B.C. Murders and because of this, the page name is even wrong. I move that this page should be retitled properly. MagnoliaSouth ( talk) 21:12, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. That's what I came here to note as well. 75.4.238.0 ( talk) 19:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
I hold the BBC Audiobooks copy on CD, read by Hugh Fraser. Its title is The A.B.C. Murders. The Crime Club 1939 edition (first edition, 6th impression) shows the periods after the letters on its cover and on the inside cover page (offered for sale today at AbeBooks.com [1]). Perhaps other publishers were not consistent in their covers on this point. Google search will find the Wikipedia entry typed either way. For more confusion, the Agatha Christie web site calls it The ABC Murders in its page on this mystery novel. [2] Prairieplant ( talk) 20:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Matty.007, why are you moving this article? Where are you moving it? Maybe this needs to be open for discussion. Even the first American edition had the periods after each letter, see the second reference. I did not set this page up, but the present title seems correct, plus ABC Murders gets directed to the article anyway, for searches. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 10:49, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I fixed the names up a bit. Alphabetically by first name is never a good idea, especially when first names are seldom used in the book. Christie is very formal in her writing. I reordered it in order of surname and reformatted it the way Wikipedia numbers bullets. Also the writing of the plot is very weird. It leaps into the third murder without any rhyme nor reason. Though I don't like it's "draft" like look now, at least it'll be less confusing to the reader. Feel free to rewrite that part if you wish, just be sure to start where the book starts, please. MagnoliaSouth ( talk) 22:23, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
The Tony Randall film isn’t the first adaptation, although it may be the first screen adaptation (can’t say for certain); the novel was adapted for radio in 1943, for the series “Suspense!” in the U.S. It’s notable for two things: it features Charles Laughton (the first person to play Hercule Poirot on stage) as Alexander Bonaparte Cust, and more importantly removes Hercule Poirot entirely from the proceedings! I can’t say that this is definitively the first adaptation, but it certainly predates the Randall picture. Jock123 ( talk) 11:06, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
A new Poirot Adventure game is coming out this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NRiqaj9mcw0
http://www.agathachristie.com/news/article/the-abc-murders-the-adventure-game-based-on-agatha
Don't worry the American ascent is only for the Trailer not Poirot's voice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.111.122 ( talk) 21:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
What is the question? No need to use the article to advertise a game that does not exist yet. I marked the text change as citation needed, but now it seems wiser to delete the sentence. Once the game is issued, perhaps reviewed, then mention it. The above link to the Agatha Christie web site goes nowhere. What were you intending to share? Please sign your posts. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 09:58, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
The game is available at GOG. https://www.gog.com/game/agatha_christie_the_abc_murders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.36.251.32 ( talk) 00:40, September 19, 2021 (UTC)
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The murderer and the victims are named in the Plot summary and in the Character list. Naming them is not a spoiler, see WP:SPOILER. This has been a matter of debate today with editor GUtt01, who does not want to name the murderer, already identified in the Plot summary, in the Character list. I find that being victim or murderer is a key aspect of the character. The murderer's identity is generally revealed at the end of a mystery or detective novel, so that seems an odd reason (named at the end of the novel) not to identify the murderer in the Wikipedia article in the character list, to my way of thinking.
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I'm sorry that I've had to reverse the changes that you made but I did so for the following reasons:
1) Your new summary does not improve the understanding of the book in any notable way. It also neglects the detail of a key feature of the story in that it doesn't name the alphabeticised victims or their places of residence. It also makes errors such as "A madman is killing people in Europe." The action of the story clearly takes place in the UK.
2) There are no links in your summary. Links are not essential in Wikipedia but they do indicate well-researched pages.
3) I'm sorry to have to say this but your spelling and grammar are not up to standard. Sentences such as "He Kills in order of the alphabet" and "The next murder doesn't happen and a man walks into the police station and told the police that he did the crimes" which changes tense in mid-sentence, are good examples. It also doesn't help when you name the detective as "Hurcule Poriot".--
Jtomlin1uk (
talk)
09:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Is there some reason why this article is titled "The A.B.C. Murders", when the photo of the book's cover clearly reads "The ABC Murders"?
Aya T C 20:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
The title is ABC Murders NOT A.B.C. Murders and because of this, the page name is even wrong. I move that this page should be retitled properly. MagnoliaSouth ( talk) 21:12, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. That's what I came here to note as well. 75.4.238.0 ( talk) 19:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
I hold the BBC Audiobooks copy on CD, read by Hugh Fraser. Its title is The A.B.C. Murders. The Crime Club 1939 edition (first edition, 6th impression) shows the periods after the letters on its cover and on the inside cover page (offered for sale today at AbeBooks.com [1]). Perhaps other publishers were not consistent in their covers on this point. Google search will find the Wikipedia entry typed either way. For more confusion, the Agatha Christie web site calls it The ABC Murders in its page on this mystery novel. [2] Prairieplant ( talk) 20:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Matty.007, why are you moving this article? Where are you moving it? Maybe this needs to be open for discussion. Even the first American edition had the periods after each letter, see the second reference. I did not set this page up, but the present title seems correct, plus ABC Murders gets directed to the article anyway, for searches. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 10:49, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I fixed the names up a bit. Alphabetically by first name is never a good idea, especially when first names are seldom used in the book. Christie is very formal in her writing. I reordered it in order of surname and reformatted it the way Wikipedia numbers bullets. Also the writing of the plot is very weird. It leaps into the third murder without any rhyme nor reason. Though I don't like it's "draft" like look now, at least it'll be less confusing to the reader. Feel free to rewrite that part if you wish, just be sure to start where the book starts, please. MagnoliaSouth ( talk) 22:23, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
The Tony Randall film isn’t the first adaptation, although it may be the first screen adaptation (can’t say for certain); the novel was adapted for radio in 1943, for the series “Suspense!” in the U.S. It’s notable for two things: it features Charles Laughton (the first person to play Hercule Poirot on stage) as Alexander Bonaparte Cust, and more importantly removes Hercule Poirot entirely from the proceedings! I can’t say that this is definitively the first adaptation, but it certainly predates the Randall picture. Jock123 ( talk) 11:06, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
A new Poirot Adventure game is coming out this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NRiqaj9mcw0
http://www.agathachristie.com/news/article/the-abc-murders-the-adventure-game-based-on-agatha
Don't worry the American ascent is only for the Trailer not Poirot's voice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.111.122 ( talk) 21:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
What is the question? No need to use the article to advertise a game that does not exist yet. I marked the text change as citation needed, but now it seems wiser to delete the sentence. Once the game is issued, perhaps reviewed, then mention it. The above link to the Agatha Christie web site goes nowhere. What were you intending to share? Please sign your posts. -- Prairieplant ( talk) 09:58, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
The game is available at GOG. https://www.gog.com/game/agatha_christie_the_abc_murders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.36.251.32 ( talk) 00:40, September 19, 2021 (UTC)
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The murderer and the victims are named in the Plot summary and in the Character list. Naming them is not a spoiler, see WP:SPOILER. This has been a matter of debate today with editor GUtt01, who does not want to name the murderer, already identified in the Plot summary, in the Character list. I find that being victim or murderer is a key aspect of the character. The murderer's identity is generally revealed at the end of a mystery or detective novel, so that seems an odd reason (named at the end of the novel) not to identify the murderer in the Wikipedia article in the character list, to my way of thinking.