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November 19, 2015. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the EP
That We Can Play by
Daniel Lopatin's
Games, a duo with Joel Ford, was praised by critics for their use of 1980s influences? | |||||||||||||
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I just completed a pretty substantial overhaul of the text for close paraphrasing. Hopefully, this is an improvement. I took out some sources--links to the Band's blog--that linked to text that read like original work rather than having a reliance on secondary sources. Additional changes and updates are welcome, as long as the references are to secondary sources and the content is paraphrased and written neutrally. Seems like an interesting EP and musical group. SojoQ ( talk) 12:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sparklism ( talk · contribs) 11:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I will review this article. Although it's a pretty interesting read, I think it falls some way short of GA status as it stands. I'll post a detailed review over the coming days, and hopefully we can get it closer to GA. Thanks, and good luck! — sparklism hey! 11:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, I've had a skim through and here are my initial thoughts:
Right now, I don't think this article is ready to be reviewed as it is still being worked on. I won't fail it straight off (though it really could be an immediate failure per WP:GA?, due to instability), since I'd rather agree a way forward with you. In short, I believe there are the makings of a GA here, but if you're still working on it then the best thing to do would be to withdraw this nomination, fix the issues raised in your own time and then renominate. What do you think? — sparklism hey! 16:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm having a closer look now, and this is what I've found so far:
This is a pretty short article, but it's fairly well-written, and I don't think there are going to be too many other reliable sources that could be used to expand the article with. In short, I don't think there's going to be much more to go on, and the article makes a good job of using what's available. I'm still trawling through the details - there'll be more to come from me. Thanks :) — sparklism hey! 19:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Here's some pre-FA-nomination feedback. The "Songs" section contains language that reads like a review. Examples: "The freestyle drums are like a blunderbuss, the guitar synths wail,"; "the third track and, purportedly, the release's strongest,"; "The amazing result,".
Also, '"cheesy orchestra hits" of "epic proportions."' needs a reference.
I think that the Reception section would be a better fit for well-sourced versions of these descriptions. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 02:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
"The writing, recording and mixing of That We Can Play is rooted in 1980s power pop... using vintage synthesizers and sequencers to recapture the sound and style of 1980s power pop." These statements as they currently stand are totally inaccurate. I can see that it is sourced from this language used in the 11/3/2010 FACT article: "Games’ reference is squarely the peak-budget, studio-housed, team-built power-pop that defined the music industry as a devouring, ivory-towered monstrosity more than ever before." In this context, the author is clearly using the term "power-pop" to refer to the polished synthesizer and drum machine driven music of the era, not the British Invasion worshipping guitar rock that is commonly referred to as "Power Pop" (Big Star, Cheap Trick, The Smithereens etc.) Linking directly to the Power pop subgenre from this wiki is misleading at best and completely ignorant at worst, at the very least the links to the Power pop wiki should be disabled. A more accurate list of influences on this Games EP might include: synth pop, soft rock, jazz fusion or new age music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.116.198.131 ( talk) 22:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
That We Can Play has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | |||||||||||||
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A
fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
November 19, 2015. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the EP
That We Can Play by
Daniel Lopatin's
Games, a duo with Joel Ford, was praised by critics for their use of 1980s influences? | |||||||||||||
Current status: Good article |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I just completed a pretty substantial overhaul of the text for close paraphrasing. Hopefully, this is an improvement. I took out some sources--links to the Band's blog--that linked to text that read like original work rather than having a reliance on secondary sources. Additional changes and updates are welcome, as long as the references are to secondary sources and the content is paraphrased and written neutrally. Seems like an interesting EP and musical group. SojoQ ( talk) 12:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sparklism ( talk · contribs) 11:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I will review this article. Although it's a pretty interesting read, I think it falls some way short of GA status as it stands. I'll post a detailed review over the coming days, and hopefully we can get it closer to GA. Thanks, and good luck! — sparklism hey! 11:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, I've had a skim through and here are my initial thoughts:
Right now, I don't think this article is ready to be reviewed as it is still being worked on. I won't fail it straight off (though it really could be an immediate failure per WP:GA?, due to instability), since I'd rather agree a way forward with you. In short, I believe there are the makings of a GA here, but if you're still working on it then the best thing to do would be to withdraw this nomination, fix the issues raised in your own time and then renominate. What do you think? — sparklism hey! 16:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm having a closer look now, and this is what I've found so far:
This is a pretty short article, but it's fairly well-written, and I don't think there are going to be too many other reliable sources that could be used to expand the article with. In short, I don't think there's going to be much more to go on, and the article makes a good job of using what's available. I'm still trawling through the details - there'll be more to come from me. Thanks :) — sparklism hey! 19:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Here's some pre-FA-nomination feedback. The "Songs" section contains language that reads like a review. Examples: "The freestyle drums are like a blunderbuss, the guitar synths wail,"; "the third track and, purportedly, the release's strongest,"; "The amazing result,".
Also, '"cheesy orchestra hits" of "epic proportions."' needs a reference.
I think that the Reception section would be a better fit for well-sourced versions of these descriptions. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 02:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
"The writing, recording and mixing of That We Can Play is rooted in 1980s power pop... using vintage synthesizers and sequencers to recapture the sound and style of 1980s power pop." These statements as they currently stand are totally inaccurate. I can see that it is sourced from this language used in the 11/3/2010 FACT article: "Games’ reference is squarely the peak-budget, studio-housed, team-built power-pop that defined the music industry as a devouring, ivory-towered monstrosity more than ever before." In this context, the author is clearly using the term "power-pop" to refer to the polished synthesizer and drum machine driven music of the era, not the British Invasion worshipping guitar rock that is commonly referred to as "Power Pop" (Big Star, Cheap Trick, The Smithereens etc.) Linking directly to the Power pop subgenre from this wiki is misleading at best and completely ignorant at worst, at the very least the links to the Power pop wiki should be disabled. A more accurate list of influences on this Games EP might include: synth pop, soft rock, jazz fusion or new age music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.116.198.131 ( talk) 22:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC)