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Why is this article being redirected to Thailand during World War II without any discussion? What's going on? -- Y not? 15:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Hey I don't think we can say thailand was occupied by japan. Thailand ceased fire during the fight and let the japanese troop pass. Thailand had its own government throu out WW2. There was only invasion, but no territory was occupied!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.77.156.177 ( talk) 17:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the Invasion of Thailand was cease fire. And how the heck did Japan occupy Thailand?? Though Japan had a lot political influence on Thailand but Thailand did not fall within the meaning of "occupied territory" at that time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.77.156.176 ( talk) 17:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
This content "In fact, Japanese troops garrisoning throughout the country viewed Thailand as a "colony" rather than an "ally."[5][6]" couldn't be found in the given references. Also, it appears in Spanish page which posted exactly in same English. Please check the references carefully, in fact, " Ultimately, the primary aim was to ensure the resolution of Thailand's sovereignty and establish an independent nation that would be regarded as an equal by the Allies."
—[ World Statesmen — Thailand] — Pawyilee ( talk) 07:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I suggest that this article be renamed Thailand in World War II in order to better reflect its scope. Though Thailand was practically occupied by Japan, it retained its government and wasn't wholly passive during the entire affair. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 17:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
The following exchange is copied from WT:WikiProject Thailand#Japanese occupation of Thailand or not? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 12:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
A debate has arisen about the naming of the page about Thailand during World War 2. There are apparently two views, one which I tend to subscribe to is that the Japanese did not occupy Thailand, and the other that they did. This has led to the question about the articles name.
My reasoning is that, from historic sources, the Thai government of the time initially informally agreed to the Japanese armies transiting through Thailand for their invasions of both Burma and Malaya. When the Japanese requested (to all intents and purposes in the form of an ultimatum) consent the government delayed responding and the Japanese entered Thailand anyway. By midday of that same day the Thai government consented to the Japanese passage and allied themselves with the Japanese.
From my reading it appears that the Thai government was left to govern the country and rewarded (if that is an appropriate term) for their co-operation with the northern Malay states and some Burmese territory. I am interested to know what project members think, whether this is a controversial matter, and what title is appropriate for the article. NealeFamily ( talk) 22:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 18:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Japanese occupation of Thailand → Thailand in World War II – Per the above two sections. See also ༆'s comments on NealeFamily's talk page. May I also note that while yes, Pelaisse's edits were biased and POV-pushing, they should be irrelevant to this discussion. Thailand technically retained its independence during the war, and this fact was highly relevant to national politics and international diplomacy towards the end of the war (including Britain's demands for reparations, etc). I don't have direct access to Reynolds's book, which is the most-cited in the article, but its description reads:Evidently, occupation is at the very least a large oversimplification. Paul_012 ( talk) 12:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)This fascinating study... examines the circumstances and strategies that led Thailand into a wartime alliance with Japan, Tokyo`s efforts to integrate Thailand into the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, and Thai maneuvers to resist Japan`s embrace. Finally, it explains how, during the latter stages of the war, the Thai were able to maintain relations with the Japanese while surreptitiously establishing links with the Allies.
The artice states "By the beginning of 1945, preparations were actively being pursued for a rising against the Japanese occupiers." and goes on to give details of those preparations, but it does not say if the uprising happened. We are next told of a new government. Could someone clarify this and provide details of what did happen?-- agr ( talk) 10:44, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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Why is this article being redirected to Thailand during World War II without any discussion? What's going on? -- Y not? 15:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Hey I don't think we can say thailand was occupied by japan. Thailand ceased fire during the fight and let the japanese troop pass. Thailand had its own government throu out WW2. There was only invasion, but no territory was occupied!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.77.156.177 ( talk) 17:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the Invasion of Thailand was cease fire. And how the heck did Japan occupy Thailand?? Though Japan had a lot political influence on Thailand but Thailand did not fall within the meaning of "occupied territory" at that time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.77.156.176 ( talk) 17:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
This content "In fact, Japanese troops garrisoning throughout the country viewed Thailand as a "colony" rather than an "ally."[5][6]" couldn't be found in the given references. Also, it appears in Spanish page which posted exactly in same English. Please check the references carefully, in fact, " Ultimately, the primary aim was to ensure the resolution of Thailand's sovereignty and establish an independent nation that would be regarded as an equal by the Allies."
—[ World Statesmen — Thailand] — Pawyilee ( talk) 07:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I suggest that this article be renamed Thailand in World War II in order to better reflect its scope. Though Thailand was practically occupied by Japan, it retained its government and wasn't wholly passive during the entire affair. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 17:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
The following exchange is copied from WT:WikiProject Thailand#Japanese occupation of Thailand or not? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 12:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
A debate has arisen about the naming of the page about Thailand during World War 2. There are apparently two views, one which I tend to subscribe to is that the Japanese did not occupy Thailand, and the other that they did. This has led to the question about the articles name.
My reasoning is that, from historic sources, the Thai government of the time initially informally agreed to the Japanese armies transiting through Thailand for their invasions of both Burma and Malaya. When the Japanese requested (to all intents and purposes in the form of an ultimatum) consent the government delayed responding and the Japanese entered Thailand anyway. By midday of that same day the Thai government consented to the Japanese passage and allied themselves with the Japanese.
From my reading it appears that the Thai government was left to govern the country and rewarded (if that is an appropriate term) for their co-operation with the northern Malay states and some Burmese territory. I am interested to know what project members think, whether this is a controversial matter, and what title is appropriate for the article. NealeFamily ( talk) 22:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 18:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Japanese occupation of Thailand → Thailand in World War II – Per the above two sections. See also ༆'s comments on NealeFamily's talk page. May I also note that while yes, Pelaisse's edits were biased and POV-pushing, they should be irrelevant to this discussion. Thailand technically retained its independence during the war, and this fact was highly relevant to national politics and international diplomacy towards the end of the war (including Britain's demands for reparations, etc). I don't have direct access to Reynolds's book, which is the most-cited in the article, but its description reads:Evidently, occupation is at the very least a large oversimplification. Paul_012 ( talk) 12:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)This fascinating study... examines the circumstances and strategies that led Thailand into a wartime alliance with Japan, Tokyo`s efforts to integrate Thailand into the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, and Thai maneuvers to resist Japan`s embrace. Finally, it explains how, during the latter stages of the war, the Thai were able to maintain relations with the Japanese while surreptitiously establishing links with the Allies.
The artice states "By the beginning of 1945, preparations were actively being pursued for a rising against the Japanese occupiers." and goes on to give details of those preparations, but it does not say if the uprising happened. We are next told of a new government. Could someone clarify this and provide details of what did happen?-- agr ( talk) 10:44, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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