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It seems that Tevacenter ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a role account from the actual organization. I have tried to make the article more WP:NPOV and use WP:RS but the role account is continuing to edit. I have been trying to chat with them on the user talkpage but haven't yet gotten a response. I requested a short-term semi-protection while this is straightened out. Basket of Puppies 18:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I don't really understand the entire site and it's functionality. I am not a computer programer, and I am in fact a volunteer at the Teva Learning Center. I am not intentionally trying to create COI obviously. I do, however, like the multitude of other companies and organizations on Wikipedia, wish to put the basic information about Teva and what they do up onto the site for viewing. I don't really understand how this whole "conversation" works, so it's not that I have tried to avoid you... whoever you are... and it seems to be more than one person. Sorry! Tevacenter ( talk) 18:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
In fact, I don't even know where the "user talkpage" is... Tevacenter ( talk) 18:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear WikipedianDAK, this article has been nominated for deletion via the PROD process. It's important to immediately start work on this article in order for it to pass the deletion process successfully. What will be needed is a listing of all the newspapers and press materials that have written about the Teva Learning Center. I have found a few already but I hope you have a better list of them. Feel free to post them here and we'll get to work on this! :) Basket of Puppies 05:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The speedy deletion tag was removed with a summary of "Being part of a notable entity indicates importance/significance", which is absurd: notability is not "contagious". -- Orange Mike | Talk 13:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The following is a list of news and press articles which have written (in greater or lesser detail) about the Teva Learning center: 2005 JTA Eco-Conscious day schools... http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-104614462.html
Washington Jewish Week http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P3-867591871.html MEMBERSHIP REQUIRED
2006 Iranian Jewish Chronicle 2006 Judaism in an Ecological Age by David Feinberg www.ijchronical.com/article.php?idcat=16&idart=121 WEBSITE NO LONGER EXISTS; PRINT COPY AVAILABLE
2008 Jewish Week Jewish Education Getting Greener http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c36_a13447/News/New_York.html
Jewish Week It's Not Easy Being Green http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c372_a12455/Special_Sections/The_New_Activism.html
JVibe Using Religion to Save the Planet http://www.jvibe.com/Real_life/Renewal.php
Muslim Public Affairs Council Faith Goes Green http://www.mpac.org/article.php?id=663
The Lookstein Center for Jewish Education in the Diaspora Starred Students at Teva http://www.lookstein.org/online_journal.php?id=191
Original Publication is the NJ Jewish Standard NO LONGER AVAIL ONLINE Greening a Sleep Away Camp http://www.campramah.org/content/GreeningaSleep-AwayCamp.php
The Jewish Daily Forward Farms School Bring Students Back to Their Roots http://forward.com/articles/13968/
JTA Jewish food movement comes of age http://jta.org/news/article/2008/12/30/1001876/jewish-food-movement-comes-of-age
2009
Keshet: Official Newsletter of the GBDS
GBDS Hosts Green Fair
http://ssnj.org/Content/Newsletter/Attachment/01-22-091.pdf
JTA Farming the land, Torah in hand http://jta.org/news/article/2009/02/02/1002523/farming-the-land-torah-in-hand
The Jewish Daily Forward Digging Deep on Tu B'Shvat http://forward.com/articles/15080/
Hadassah Magazine finding (Jewish) roots by Rahel Musleah http://www.hadassah.org/news/content/per_hadassah/archive/2009/09_Feb/feature_2.asp
The Jewish Daily Forward Blessing of the Sun: A teacheable moment http://forward.com/articles/104024/
The Jewish Week Where to Catch the Sun http://www.jewishweek.com/viewArticle/c37_al5299/News/National.html
The Jewish Week Cutting The Budget, But Not The Joy http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c227_a15272/Special_Sections/Celebrate.html
The Brooklyn Daily Eagle Celebrating the Sun at Hannah Senesh http://www.brooklyneagle.com/archive/category.php?category_id=31&page=28
New Jersey Jewish News School recycling effort earns state recognition http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/062509/sxSchoolRecycling.html
I believe that this amount of press may show that the organization is non-trivial. Thoughts? Basket of Puppies 19:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I see that Shadowjams ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has added the advertisement tag to the article. I will admit I wish he would have taken a look at the discussion here first before labeling it as such. I am tempted to remove the tag as I think the article is pretty neutral, and is very well sourced. Perhaps we can have some outside eyes to judge the advertisement grade of the article? Basket of Puppies 17:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm a late comer to this discussion. I removed the tag because I had missed the discussion going on here. I think the advert tag might be a little strong, maybe the press release tag is better, but I don't feel strongly enough about it either way to change it. All of Orange Mike's advice is exactly right, and that was my original thought. Shadowjams ( talk) 03:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
You know, maybe it's because I am a newbie on the Wiki-scene, but I am feeling an extreme amount of confusion with this. I have worked on this article and done everything that I have been told to do. First I had a bad username, so I changed it. Then it wasn't cited enough so I went through and cited everything. Now it's being censured for seemingly advertising and I just don't udnerstand. This article clearly is to provide information about what Teva is and does. The "History" of the organization is important to those that may be interested. I would contend that it is a far cry from a website, and I assure you the official website is a much better advertisement than Wikipedia. If Wikipedia can't be used to describe an organization, then what can it be used for? It just seems like this article is being picked-on. And to all of you admins: it's so easy for you to slap around tags, but if you have no constructive criticism and offer no solution to these alleged issues. If you think that the article needs to be wikified then just do it. I have tried and many would-be links do not have articles to attach to and, thus I cannot link to them internally. As an aside, if all of the sources about the organization offer positive critiques, comments, news, or whatever, then that's what are we to do?. Anyone in the world can sign up and offer something negative, contraversies, etc. No? WikipedianDAK ( talk) 21:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, folks. I see that a "Criticism" section has been added. I'd like to open a discussion about this in order that we can come to an agreement of it. I believe that there may be some disagreement about this and, as such, thought I would try to preemptively create a space to talk about it. So, please chime in here. Thanks!! Basket of Puppies 05:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I moved your added criticism to the Birkat Hachama section because that is where it really belongs. As well, I changed the language you had because the Rabbi isn't criticizing Teva Center's interpretation of Judaism, but rather any interpretation of Judaism as an environmental religion specifically in the context of Birkat Hachama. TLC is not the only Jewish organization that believes in Judaism as an environmental conscious religion AND is not the only organization to combine prayers that are not normally recognized as "environmental." Finally, I am not sure if you are Jewish or not, but the Orthodox are critical of a multitude of nonOrthodox denomination interpretations of Judaism in general. For these reasons I changed the "critical of Teva Center's interpretation..." language. WikipedianDAK ( talk) 14:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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It seems that Tevacenter ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a role account from the actual organization. I have tried to make the article more WP:NPOV and use WP:RS but the role account is continuing to edit. I have been trying to chat with them on the user talkpage but haven't yet gotten a response. I requested a short-term semi-protection while this is straightened out. Basket of Puppies 18:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I don't really understand the entire site and it's functionality. I am not a computer programer, and I am in fact a volunteer at the Teva Learning Center. I am not intentionally trying to create COI obviously. I do, however, like the multitude of other companies and organizations on Wikipedia, wish to put the basic information about Teva and what they do up onto the site for viewing. I don't really understand how this whole "conversation" works, so it's not that I have tried to avoid you... whoever you are... and it seems to be more than one person. Sorry! Tevacenter ( talk) 18:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
In fact, I don't even know where the "user talkpage" is... Tevacenter ( talk) 18:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear WikipedianDAK, this article has been nominated for deletion via the PROD process. It's important to immediately start work on this article in order for it to pass the deletion process successfully. What will be needed is a listing of all the newspapers and press materials that have written about the Teva Learning Center. I have found a few already but I hope you have a better list of them. Feel free to post them here and we'll get to work on this! :) Basket of Puppies 05:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The speedy deletion tag was removed with a summary of "Being part of a notable entity indicates importance/significance", which is absurd: notability is not "contagious". -- Orange Mike | Talk 13:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The following is a list of news and press articles which have written (in greater or lesser detail) about the Teva Learning center: 2005 JTA Eco-Conscious day schools... http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-104614462.html
Washington Jewish Week http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P3-867591871.html MEMBERSHIP REQUIRED
2006 Iranian Jewish Chronicle 2006 Judaism in an Ecological Age by David Feinberg www.ijchronical.com/article.php?idcat=16&idart=121 WEBSITE NO LONGER EXISTS; PRINT COPY AVAILABLE
2008 Jewish Week Jewish Education Getting Greener http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c36_a13447/News/New_York.html
Jewish Week It's Not Easy Being Green http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c372_a12455/Special_Sections/The_New_Activism.html
JVibe Using Religion to Save the Planet http://www.jvibe.com/Real_life/Renewal.php
Muslim Public Affairs Council Faith Goes Green http://www.mpac.org/article.php?id=663
The Lookstein Center for Jewish Education in the Diaspora Starred Students at Teva http://www.lookstein.org/online_journal.php?id=191
Original Publication is the NJ Jewish Standard NO LONGER AVAIL ONLINE Greening a Sleep Away Camp http://www.campramah.org/content/GreeningaSleep-AwayCamp.php
The Jewish Daily Forward Farms School Bring Students Back to Their Roots http://forward.com/articles/13968/
JTA Jewish food movement comes of age http://jta.org/news/article/2008/12/30/1001876/jewish-food-movement-comes-of-age
2009
Keshet: Official Newsletter of the GBDS
GBDS Hosts Green Fair
http://ssnj.org/Content/Newsletter/Attachment/01-22-091.pdf
JTA Farming the land, Torah in hand http://jta.org/news/article/2009/02/02/1002523/farming-the-land-torah-in-hand
The Jewish Daily Forward Digging Deep on Tu B'Shvat http://forward.com/articles/15080/
Hadassah Magazine finding (Jewish) roots by Rahel Musleah http://www.hadassah.org/news/content/per_hadassah/archive/2009/09_Feb/feature_2.asp
The Jewish Daily Forward Blessing of the Sun: A teacheable moment http://forward.com/articles/104024/
The Jewish Week Where to Catch the Sun http://www.jewishweek.com/viewArticle/c37_al5299/News/National.html
The Jewish Week Cutting The Budget, But Not The Joy http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c227_a15272/Special_Sections/Celebrate.html
The Brooklyn Daily Eagle Celebrating the Sun at Hannah Senesh http://www.brooklyneagle.com/archive/category.php?category_id=31&page=28
New Jersey Jewish News School recycling effort earns state recognition http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/062509/sxSchoolRecycling.html
I believe that this amount of press may show that the organization is non-trivial. Thoughts? Basket of Puppies 19:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I see that Shadowjams ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has added the advertisement tag to the article. I will admit I wish he would have taken a look at the discussion here first before labeling it as such. I am tempted to remove the tag as I think the article is pretty neutral, and is very well sourced. Perhaps we can have some outside eyes to judge the advertisement grade of the article? Basket of Puppies 17:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm a late comer to this discussion. I removed the tag because I had missed the discussion going on here. I think the advert tag might be a little strong, maybe the press release tag is better, but I don't feel strongly enough about it either way to change it. All of Orange Mike's advice is exactly right, and that was my original thought. Shadowjams ( talk) 03:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
You know, maybe it's because I am a newbie on the Wiki-scene, but I am feeling an extreme amount of confusion with this. I have worked on this article and done everything that I have been told to do. First I had a bad username, so I changed it. Then it wasn't cited enough so I went through and cited everything. Now it's being censured for seemingly advertising and I just don't udnerstand. This article clearly is to provide information about what Teva is and does. The "History" of the organization is important to those that may be interested. I would contend that it is a far cry from a website, and I assure you the official website is a much better advertisement than Wikipedia. If Wikipedia can't be used to describe an organization, then what can it be used for? It just seems like this article is being picked-on. And to all of you admins: it's so easy for you to slap around tags, but if you have no constructive criticism and offer no solution to these alleged issues. If you think that the article needs to be wikified then just do it. I have tried and many would-be links do not have articles to attach to and, thus I cannot link to them internally. As an aside, if all of the sources about the organization offer positive critiques, comments, news, or whatever, then that's what are we to do?. Anyone in the world can sign up and offer something negative, contraversies, etc. No? WikipedianDAK ( talk) 21:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, folks. I see that a "Criticism" section has been added. I'd like to open a discussion about this in order that we can come to an agreement of it. I believe that there may be some disagreement about this and, as such, thought I would try to preemptively create a space to talk about it. So, please chime in here. Thanks!! Basket of Puppies 05:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I moved your added criticism to the Birkat Hachama section because that is where it really belongs. As well, I changed the language you had because the Rabbi isn't criticizing Teva Center's interpretation of Judaism, but rather any interpretation of Judaism as an environmental religion specifically in the context of Birkat Hachama. TLC is not the only Jewish organization that believes in Judaism as an environmental conscious religion AND is not the only organization to combine prayers that are not normally recognized as "environmental." Finally, I am not sure if you are Jewish or not, but the Orthodox are critical of a multitude of nonOrthodox denomination interpretations of Judaism in general. For these reasons I changed the "critical of Teva Center's interpretation..." language. WikipedianDAK ( talk) 14:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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