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"Deuteronomy 32:8-9
In both the Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls Deuteronomy 32:8-9 refers a time when God divided the nations of the earth among the "sons of God"..."
Most of the translations I've checked state "sons of Adam" or "sons of man". What reference did the writer use that stated "sons of God"? "Sons of Adam" would be human, while "sons of God" could refer to angels or these territorial spirits, so the meaning of this passage hinges on which phrase is correct. Vince 66.210.33.200 17:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Then it needs to be rewritten. If the vast majority of Biblical translations render it "sons of men" or similar phrases, the leap to angelic beings is too far to includ yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.206.112.92 ( talk) 05:28, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Territorial Lies:
This page is yet another example of false teachers distorting the Bible to serve their own purpose. In this case, the purpose is to inflate pockets and ego of C. Peter Wagner. None of the scriptures cited on this page refer to "territorial spirits". For example, Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is speaking about how the Angels of God divided up the land between the sons of Noah.
"When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind" - Deuteronomy 32:8-9
According to the Book of the Division of Days (Jubilees) God set boundaries between them and bound the sons of Noah by an everlasting oath. Of the three sons of Noah, there were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Shem (Origin of the word Semite) was portioned Asian (East Bank of Nile Delta to India, North to Turkey). Shem's son Arpachshad was portioned Israel; which is why this land was later inherited by Abraham (Great Great Grandson of Arpachshad). Unfortunately, Canaan (son of Ham) took possession of the land by essentially squatting on it. However, it was promised by God to Abraham and returned to his offspring in about 1440BCE. Japheth was portioned Europe (Greece to the Straight of Gibraltar/Gadir) and Ham was portioned Africa (West Bank of the Nile to Coast of West Africa). To this day, Egypt is known as the land of H-M. All of this can be found in the Book of the Division of Days (also known as Jubilees). Christians should be aware that the Book of the Division of Days (Jubilees), The Book of Enoch, The Book of the Upright (Jasher), and The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (Didache) were a part of early Judeo-Christian tradition. Early Jews and Christians of the 1st and 2nd century read and quoted from these books. These books were part of their unofficial canon until the Roman Church banned them in the 4th century. And why did the Roman Church banned these books? Well, according to the Church Fathers they were banned because the the Jews had previously rejected them. So why did the Jews reject these books? The Jews rejected some of these books because the Christians were quoting from them. Specifically, the Book of Enoch contains a prophesy about the return of the Messiah in the seventh Jubilee (440BCE-50CE). All of this, is documented by the writings of the Church Fathers. That said, these books are unquestionably inspired and absolutely necessary to understand the Word of God. - ICarriere — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.88.87 ( talk) 20:36, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Re: (cur | prev) 06:27, 25 July 2012 StAnselm (talk | contribs) . . (8,239 bytes) (-308) . . (Deprodded - this subject has lots and lots of articles in academic journals) (undo)
Are these where those academic journals came from: www.monstropedia.org? The Territorial Spirit#Bibliography use the same sources as that website. Where are the academic journals for this subject? Because none of these listed here are academic! — Jasonasosa 07:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The Criticism section is a duplication of Spiritual warfare#Criticism.Thanks, — Jasonasosa 13:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The lead of the guardian angel article defines it as "an angel assigned to protect and guide a particular person or group." That would seem to encompass territorial spirits, and so a wikilink is appropriate here. I think it's fine to link there from "national angel" - otherwise, a "see also" link would be good. St Anselm ( talk) 23:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The lede refers to the Law of Attraction but does not establish basis. Does it belong there? Kortoso ( talk) 20:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
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"Deuteronomy 32:8-9
In both the Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls Deuteronomy 32:8-9 refers a time when God divided the nations of the earth among the "sons of God"..."
Most of the translations I've checked state "sons of Adam" or "sons of man". What reference did the writer use that stated "sons of God"? "Sons of Adam" would be human, while "sons of God" could refer to angels or these territorial spirits, so the meaning of this passage hinges on which phrase is correct. Vince 66.210.33.200 17:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Then it needs to be rewritten. If the vast majority of Biblical translations render it "sons of men" or similar phrases, the leap to angelic beings is too far to includ yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.206.112.92 ( talk) 05:28, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Territorial Lies:
This page is yet another example of false teachers distorting the Bible to serve their own purpose. In this case, the purpose is to inflate pockets and ego of C. Peter Wagner. None of the scriptures cited on this page refer to "territorial spirits". For example, Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is speaking about how the Angels of God divided up the land between the sons of Noah.
"When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind" - Deuteronomy 32:8-9
According to the Book of the Division of Days (Jubilees) God set boundaries between them and bound the sons of Noah by an everlasting oath. Of the three sons of Noah, there were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Shem (Origin of the word Semite) was portioned Asian (East Bank of Nile Delta to India, North to Turkey). Shem's son Arpachshad was portioned Israel; which is why this land was later inherited by Abraham (Great Great Grandson of Arpachshad). Unfortunately, Canaan (son of Ham) took possession of the land by essentially squatting on it. However, it was promised by God to Abraham and returned to his offspring in about 1440BCE. Japheth was portioned Europe (Greece to the Straight of Gibraltar/Gadir) and Ham was portioned Africa (West Bank of the Nile to Coast of West Africa). To this day, Egypt is known as the land of H-M. All of this can be found in the Book of the Division of Days (also known as Jubilees). Christians should be aware that the Book of the Division of Days (Jubilees), The Book of Enoch, The Book of the Upright (Jasher), and The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (Didache) were a part of early Judeo-Christian tradition. Early Jews and Christians of the 1st and 2nd century read and quoted from these books. These books were part of their unofficial canon until the Roman Church banned them in the 4th century. And why did the Roman Church banned these books? Well, according to the Church Fathers they were banned because the the Jews had previously rejected them. So why did the Jews reject these books? The Jews rejected some of these books because the Christians were quoting from them. Specifically, the Book of Enoch contains a prophesy about the return of the Messiah in the seventh Jubilee (440BCE-50CE). All of this, is documented by the writings of the Church Fathers. That said, these books are unquestionably inspired and absolutely necessary to understand the Word of God. - ICarriere — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.88.87 ( talk) 20:36, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks, — Jasonasosa 06:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Re: (cur | prev) 06:27, 25 July 2012 StAnselm (talk | contribs) . . (8,239 bytes) (-308) . . (Deprodded - this subject has lots and lots of articles in academic journals) (undo)
Are these where those academic journals came from: www.monstropedia.org? The Territorial Spirit#Bibliography use the same sources as that website. Where are the academic journals for this subject? Because none of these listed here are academic! — Jasonasosa 07:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The Criticism section is a duplication of Spiritual warfare#Criticism.Thanks, — Jasonasosa 13:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The lead of the guardian angel article defines it as "an angel assigned to protect and guide a particular person or group." That would seem to encompass territorial spirits, and so a wikilink is appropriate here. I think it's fine to link there from "national angel" - otherwise, a "see also" link would be good. St Anselm ( talk) 23:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The lede refers to the Law of Attraction but does not establish basis. Does it belong there? Kortoso ( talk) 20:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)