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• Astynaxtalk08:56, 10 October 2013 (UTC)reply
The guideline (
MOS:HONORIFIC) says "honorific titles should not be deleted when they are used throughout an article unless there is consensus." To my reading the guideline clearly says that styles like "His Majesty" and "Her Imperial Highness" should not be used in the article. However, titles like "Lord Smith" or "Sir Robert" or "King Francis II" or "Dom Pedro" are "optional". If the consensus is to keep them, then the guideline does not support their removal.
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09:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
During their lifetimes and even by historians they were always called by he honorifics ("Dom Pedro", "Dona Maria Leopoldina", etc...). However, to avoid an over abundance of "dom" and "dona" in the articles I chose to use them only when a person is mentioned for the first time and that's it. I believe it's reasonable. --
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09:52, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I guess it is also reasonable then to introduce Indian figures, like Ghandi, Nehru, and Patel, with the honorific suffix "-ji". Or the Japanese emperors with "-tenno". And why stop with the likes of Pedro II and Teresa Cristina? How about we append every Portuguese monarch since Afonso Henriques with "dom"? — Preceding
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11:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Dom honorific issue
Recently, I have been engaged in an edit war with User:Lecen on the use of honorifics. I thought that it's against Wikipedia's MOS to retain honorifics, including those of royalty. If memory serves me correctly, the few exceptions are Burmese honorifcs (for instance, U Thant). Then why is it that when it comes to 18th to 19th century Portuguese and Brazilian royalty, we see the brazen use of "dom/dona/don"? Why is it that certain users are blockings attempts on deleting these honorifcs? — Preceding
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11:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
My Wiki username is "Coincleaner", but I have forgotten BOTH the password and email of my account. So I've given up all attempts to recover it. — Preceding
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• Astynaxtalk08:56, 10 October 2013 (UTC)reply
The guideline (
MOS:HONORIFIC) says "honorific titles should not be deleted when they are used throughout an article unless there is consensus." To my reading the guideline clearly says that styles like "His Majesty" and "Her Imperial Highness" should not be used in the article. However, titles like "Lord Smith" or "Sir Robert" or "King Francis II" or "Dom Pedro" are "optional". If the consensus is to keep them, then the guideline does not support their removal.
DrKiernan (
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09:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
During their lifetimes and even by historians they were always called by he honorifics ("Dom Pedro", "Dona Maria Leopoldina", etc...). However, to avoid an over abundance of "dom" and "dona" in the articles I chose to use them only when a person is mentioned for the first time and that's it. I believe it's reasonable. --
Lecen (
talk)
09:52, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
I guess it is also reasonable then to introduce Indian figures, like Ghandi, Nehru, and Patel, with the honorific suffix "-ji". Or the Japanese emperors with "-tenno". And why stop with the likes of Pedro II and Teresa Cristina? How about we append every Portuguese monarch since Afonso Henriques with "dom"? — Preceding
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contribs)
11:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Dom honorific issue
Recently, I have been engaged in an edit war with User:Lecen on the use of honorifics. I thought that it's against Wikipedia's MOS to retain honorifics, including those of royalty. If memory serves me correctly, the few exceptions are Burmese honorifcs (for instance, U Thant). Then why is it that when it comes to 18th to 19th century Portuguese and Brazilian royalty, we see the brazen use of "dom/dona/don"? Why is it that certain users are blockings attempts on deleting these honorifcs? — Preceding
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talk)
11:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)reply
My Wiki username is "Coincleaner", but I have forgotten BOTH the password and email of my account. So I've given up all attempts to recover it. — Preceding
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