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I'm taking a break from reviewing articles, but I wanted to give some feedback before a reviewer goes through this article. Currently, there are a few problems that would prevent it from passing:
I hope this helps. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 16:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I notice that you've been crossing some items off as they're dealt with, which is good. I'm still concerned about the references, though, as there is still a lot of unreferenced content. Every paragraph needs at least one reference, and it's generally frowned upon to end a paragraph without a reference. The article is definitely improving, though. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 18:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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The creator of this article disputes changes made by another editor to its categorization. See discussion here. OccamzRazor ( talk) 03:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I note that you use another WP article, Ensley, Birmingham, Alabama, as a source for muliple statements in your Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company article. Perhaps you are not aware that WP articles are not considered a qualifying reliable source, especially when that article itself is unsourced (the only refefence is a dead link). This could hurt your chances in a WP:Good articles review. To improve the article, you should cite qualifying reliable sources for this information. OccamzRazor ( talk) 03:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Some things need to be worked on before pass/fail:
This is a nice piece of work, but it still has some shortcomings with respect to the good article criteria.
— Wackymacs ( talk ~ edits) 14:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Please also note that Wikipedia articles cannot be used as references. Currently, references 4 and 7 do not qualify as reliable sources. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 15:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
IMO, this article is already suitable for GFA (GOOD FUCKING ARTICLE) (excuse my italian). It's got everything in it that a fucking excellent article requires. It doesn't need anymore dicking around with unless it's going to be featured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.43.24 ( talk • contribs)
Both of these segments are completely unreferenced:
— Wackymacs ( talk ~ edits) 13:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! WE WIN!!!!! Take that wackymacs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.43.24 ( talk) 09:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
No where in this article did I see mention of the Black people who were used as slaves to make TCI what it was and is. It should at least have been mentioned in the history of the company. It really happened for decades and should not be swept under the rug as if it didn't happen. Thousands of men and women lost their lives working for no wages at TCI. They should be acknowledged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.160.210.112 ( talk) 05:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I have never come across a source stating that the company utilised slave labour. Indeed, I have never heard of slaves being used in Southern industry at all. TCI only existed for 13 years before slavery was abolished, five of those during the Civil War. If you can provide evidence that TCI employed slaves, then I will add the information to the article. Alternately, you give it a try. grarap ( talk) 19:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)grarap
The expression "slave labor" should be used parenthetically but the company did use leased convict labor under harsh conditions and many of the convicts were there on minor infractions. I have seen articles which over sensationalize the history of TCI but it also does not make any sense to say nothing about it at all. My great grandfather was a company executive who left the company after working there for several years partly as a result of conflict with the Southern shareholders the issue. RichardBond ( talk) 04:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
That isn't a picture of a mine. Rather, it's a picture of a early form of coking plant. The coal is charged into the ovens from the top, using the funnel-shaped hopper cars pushed along the tracks along the top of the brick structures (each a 'battery' of ovens) then sealed inside and heated to drive off the volatile compounds and leave behind a nearly pure carbon structure. The oven is then allowed to cool, and the coke is raked out through the little arch-shaped openings along the bottom of the battery. Kalmbach ( talk) 02:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
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Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company was the second largest steel manufacturer in the USA before it merged with
U.S. Steel in 1907? | ||||||||||||
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I'm taking a break from reviewing articles, but I wanted to give some feedback before a reviewer goes through this article. Currently, there are a few problems that would prevent it from passing:
I hope this helps. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 16:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I notice that you've been crossing some items off as they're dealt with, which is good. I'm still concerned about the references, though, as there is still a lot of unreferenced content. Every paragraph needs at least one reference, and it's generally frowned upon to end a paragraph without a reference. The article is definitely improving, though. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 18:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
{{Information |Description= |Source= |Date= |Author= }}
The creator of this article disputes changes made by another editor to its categorization. See discussion here. OccamzRazor ( talk) 03:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I note that you use another WP article, Ensley, Birmingham, Alabama, as a source for muliple statements in your Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company article. Perhaps you are not aware that WP articles are not considered a qualifying reliable source, especially when that article itself is unsourced (the only refefence is a dead link). This could hurt your chances in a WP:Good articles review. To improve the article, you should cite qualifying reliable sources for this information. OccamzRazor ( talk) 03:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Some things need to be worked on before pass/fail:
This is a nice piece of work, but it still has some shortcomings with respect to the good article criteria.
— Wackymacs ( talk ~ edits) 14:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Please also note that Wikipedia articles cannot be used as references. Currently, references 4 and 7 do not qualify as reliable sources. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 15:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
IMO, this article is already suitable for GFA (GOOD FUCKING ARTICLE) (excuse my italian). It's got everything in it that a fucking excellent article requires. It doesn't need anymore dicking around with unless it's going to be featured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.43.24 ( talk • contribs)
Both of these segments are completely unreferenced:
— Wackymacs ( talk ~ edits) 13:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! WE WIN!!!!! Take that wackymacs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.43.24 ( talk) 09:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
No where in this article did I see mention of the Black people who were used as slaves to make TCI what it was and is. It should at least have been mentioned in the history of the company. It really happened for decades and should not be swept under the rug as if it didn't happen. Thousands of men and women lost their lives working for no wages at TCI. They should be acknowledged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.160.210.112 ( talk) 05:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I have never come across a source stating that the company utilised slave labour. Indeed, I have never heard of slaves being used in Southern industry at all. TCI only existed for 13 years before slavery was abolished, five of those during the Civil War. If you can provide evidence that TCI employed slaves, then I will add the information to the article. Alternately, you give it a try. grarap ( talk) 19:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)grarap
The expression "slave labor" should be used parenthetically but the company did use leased convict labor under harsh conditions and many of the convicts were there on minor infractions. I have seen articles which over sensationalize the history of TCI but it also does not make any sense to say nothing about it at all. My great grandfather was a company executive who left the company after working there for several years partly as a result of conflict with the Southern shareholders the issue. RichardBond ( talk) 04:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
That isn't a picture of a mine. Rather, it's a picture of a early form of coking plant. The coal is charged into the ovens from the top, using the funnel-shaped hopper cars pushed along the tracks along the top of the brick structures (each a 'battery' of ovens) then sealed inside and heated to drive off the volatile compounds and leave behind a nearly pure carbon structure. The oven is then allowed to cool, and the coke is raked out through the little arch-shaped openings along the bottom of the battery. Kalmbach ( talk) 02:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)