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good, very helpful and informative —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.227.177 ( talk) 19:10, April 17, 2007
I am a marxist, and I have a great interest in the history of the bolshevik revolution. I read this book and I think it to be for the most part and accurate and tribute to what the people were trying to do in Russia. However, for the sake of neutrality I am surprised there is no a criticism section for this book. I remember reading somewhere about how this book has been considered a dramatization that is biased for the reds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.166.222.182 ( talk) 08:33, April 19, 2007
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 13:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Have just seen a 4 part film with this title made in England, c. 1967, with Soviet participation from newsreels of the time narrated principally by Orson Welles. Deserves some place here and am trying to figure out how much of it was real and how much reennactment. Lycurgus ( talk) 01:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
See Ten Days that Shook the World#Publication: is there anybody who could give a reference for G. Orwell's claim in the introduction of the Animal Farm?? Thanks, -jkb- ( talk) 16:08, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Orwell was absolutely right. In fact, the free version of the book available on Project Gutenberg is the censored version. Trotsky's name appears only once, and only as the name of the holder of the office of Minister of Foreign Affairs; and Lenin's introduction to the book (referred to in the article) has been eliminated, exactly as stated by Orwell. Longitude2 ( talk) 17:19, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
The Penguin Classic edition (1977) actually shows Nikolai Lenin's in the Introduction as does the original Modern Library edition. The use of this name would have been in accordance with the name he was known as at the time of his death in his obit in the New York Times and other Western papers. It can also be traced back to, at least 1908, in the New York Times. The denial of this historic name first appeared in Louis Fischer's biography of Lenin in 1964. Fischer's claim has never been substantiated historically but accepted as a matter of faith. To show any edition as V. Lenin is an alteration of a historical fact that the books were published as using Nikolai Lenin regardless of the merits of Fischer's claim who was a famine denier, and slandered Gareth Jones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diosprometheus ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 06:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
". . . as both Lenin and Trotsky were internationally known, whereas the activities of other Bolshevik militants were virtually unknown." Reed's book repeatedly mentions Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin, and other Bolshevik militants. Stalin was indeed virtually unknown to the Western world until some years after the revolution, but the text as it stood seemed to imply the book essentially ignored every Bolshevik who wasn't Lenin or Trotsky (or that no other Bolshevik was known abroad in 1917-18), which would be false. Hence why I removed it. -- Ismail ( talk) 03:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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good, very helpful and informative —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.227.177 ( talk) 19:10, April 17, 2007
I am a marxist, and I have a great interest in the history of the bolshevik revolution. I read this book and I think it to be for the most part and accurate and tribute to what the people were trying to do in Russia. However, for the sake of neutrality I am surprised there is no a criticism section for this book. I remember reading somewhere about how this book has been considered a dramatization that is biased for the reds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.166.222.182 ( talk) 08:33, April 19, 2007
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 13:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Have just seen a 4 part film with this title made in England, c. 1967, with Soviet participation from newsreels of the time narrated principally by Orson Welles. Deserves some place here and am trying to figure out how much of it was real and how much reennactment. Lycurgus ( talk) 01:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
See Ten Days that Shook the World#Publication: is there anybody who could give a reference for G. Orwell's claim in the introduction of the Animal Farm?? Thanks, -jkb- ( talk) 16:08, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Orwell was absolutely right. In fact, the free version of the book available on Project Gutenberg is the censored version. Trotsky's name appears only once, and only as the name of the holder of the office of Minister of Foreign Affairs; and Lenin's introduction to the book (referred to in the article) has been eliminated, exactly as stated by Orwell. Longitude2 ( talk) 17:19, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
The Penguin Classic edition (1977) actually shows Nikolai Lenin's in the Introduction as does the original Modern Library edition. The use of this name would have been in accordance with the name he was known as at the time of his death in his obit in the New York Times and other Western papers. It can also be traced back to, at least 1908, in the New York Times. The denial of this historic name first appeared in Louis Fischer's biography of Lenin in 1964. Fischer's claim has never been substantiated historically but accepted as a matter of faith. To show any edition as V. Lenin is an alteration of a historical fact that the books were published as using Nikolai Lenin regardless of the merits of Fischer's claim who was a famine denier, and slandered Gareth Jones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diosprometheus ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 06:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
". . . as both Lenin and Trotsky were internationally known, whereas the activities of other Bolshevik militants were virtually unknown." Reed's book repeatedly mentions Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin, and other Bolshevik militants. Stalin was indeed virtually unknown to the Western world until some years after the revolution, but the text as it stood seemed to imply the book essentially ignored every Bolshevik who wasn't Lenin or Trotsky (or that no other Bolshevik was known abroad in 1917-18), which would be false. Hence why I removed it. -- Ismail ( talk) 03:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC)