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There are a few references to manifolds in this article, i.e. "Hotness may be represented abstractly as a one-dimensional manifold." In this context, it seems like this introduces unnecessary jargon, and is less precise: there are only two one-dimensional manifolds, the circle and the real line, and hotness is represented abstractly as the real line, not the circle.
Before making this change, I want to check in with people that I'm not missing some historical reason to use the term manifold here--my background is in math, not physics. ProboscideaRubber15 ( talk) 00:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
This section is very confusing, redundant, and probably erroneous...
All physically reasonable temperature scales are related by affine relations of the form T' = a T + T0. I believe the article should only mention the Fahrenheit and Celsius "relative scales" (i.e. defining a 1° difference) and the Kelvin scale (absolute zero at 0, same 1° difference than Celsius). The reader should understand that °C or °F are 2 definitions of ° difference, with their respective offsets, and that K is like °C up to an offset. Olivier Peltre ( talk) 09:17, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
This wikipage is way too talky and mentions a lot of irrelevant stuff. Is it really necessary to include a graph of the human body temperature over the course of a day and various temperature scales before giving a formal definition and description of what temperature comes from?
I added the thermodynamical definition in the intro and consider moving/deleting several sections that feels like word fillers. 81.225.32.185 ( talk) 21:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Remsense: re: [1] Despite the etymology of " thermometer", there are temperature measurement devices or temperature sensors not commonly called thermometers. This is supported by the table of contents of the following textbooks:
Especially temperature imaging devices, such as satellite temperature measurement sensors, are not commonly called "thermometer". A thermometer onboard a satellite would be understood as measuring the satellite body temperature. Likewise, " thermal imaging" could have been called in principle "imaging thermometry", but it's not normally done so. If we don't agree on this, then temperature measurement should be nominated for merging into thermometer, for consistency. See previous related discussion: Talk:Thermometer#Distinction_between_thermometers_and_temperature_sensors. fgnievinski ( talk) 01:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
the process of measuring a current local temperature for immediate or later evaluation, then has a section on satellite temperature measurements. I would not merge the articles. Not all determinations of temperature are done using thermometers. It could be rewritten into the top-level article on the subject. StarryGrandma ( talk) 14:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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There are a few references to manifolds in this article, i.e. "Hotness may be represented abstractly as a one-dimensional manifold." In this context, it seems like this introduces unnecessary jargon, and is less precise: there are only two one-dimensional manifolds, the circle and the real line, and hotness is represented abstractly as the real line, not the circle.
Before making this change, I want to check in with people that I'm not missing some historical reason to use the term manifold here--my background is in math, not physics. ProboscideaRubber15 ( talk) 00:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
This section is very confusing, redundant, and probably erroneous...
All physically reasonable temperature scales are related by affine relations of the form T' = a T + T0. I believe the article should only mention the Fahrenheit and Celsius "relative scales" (i.e. defining a 1° difference) and the Kelvin scale (absolute zero at 0, same 1° difference than Celsius). The reader should understand that °C or °F are 2 definitions of ° difference, with their respective offsets, and that K is like °C up to an offset. Olivier Peltre ( talk) 09:17, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
This wikipage is way too talky and mentions a lot of irrelevant stuff. Is it really necessary to include a graph of the human body temperature over the course of a day and various temperature scales before giving a formal definition and description of what temperature comes from?
I added the thermodynamical definition in the intro and consider moving/deleting several sections that feels like word fillers. 81.225.32.185 ( talk) 21:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Remsense: re: [1] Despite the etymology of " thermometer", there are temperature measurement devices or temperature sensors not commonly called thermometers. This is supported by the table of contents of the following textbooks:
Especially temperature imaging devices, such as satellite temperature measurement sensors, are not commonly called "thermometer". A thermometer onboard a satellite would be understood as measuring the satellite body temperature. Likewise, " thermal imaging" could have been called in principle "imaging thermometry", but it's not normally done so. If we don't agree on this, then temperature measurement should be nominated for merging into thermometer, for consistency. See previous related discussion: Talk:Thermometer#Distinction_between_thermometers_and_temperature_sensors. fgnievinski ( talk) 01:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
the process of measuring a current local temperature for immediate or later evaluation, then has a section on satellite temperature measurements. I would not merge the articles. Not all determinations of temperature are done using thermometers. It could be rewritten into the top-level article on the subject. StarryGrandma ( talk) 14:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)