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– Both current titles are ambiguous, and "Telem" has several other uses (see
Telem (disambiguation)). They are both Israeli political parties, so the only ways I see to disambiguate them is by the year of their foundation (as above) or (ALT1 and ALT2 below) by the founders:
Moshe Ya'alon for the 2019 party, and
Moshe Dayan for the 1981 party.
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 03:04, 6 January 2019 (UTC)--Relisted. –
Ammarpad (
talk) 06:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
I note that this article is probably also eligible for
WP:CSD#G5 (pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, and that have no substantial edits by others) if we wanted to go that route. Is it best to retain this article, or would it be better to wait and recreate it after the party has done something other than be registered?
Dekimasuよ! 04:02, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Hi, I notified
Bbb23 here:
[1] that I was recreating the article as per the notice on the deleted page, which suggested that I notify the person who deleted the article. I have made some minor edits to the article; I think it is a worthwhile article that should be kept. Thank you.
David O. Johnson (
talk) 05:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose The original party is the primary subject for this title as it stands. In contrast to
David O. Johnson I am not convinced the new party is notable enough for its own article (shortly before Israeli elections there are often several articles on minor parties created that probably shouldn't be). I would rather do a G5 deletion and see in a few weeks whether the party is likely to get anywhere (e.g. is it crossing the threshold in opinion polls).
Number57 12:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
@
Number 57: The article has been re-created, and I see that you PRODded it. I have removed
[2] the PROD because
WP:GNG appears to be met. So the article exists, and we need a better name for it than the current ambiguous title. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
Support. (ALT 2) Many other parties are named similarly like,
JD (S),
JD(U) etc.
Bingobro(Chat) 13:49, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
If both articles are kept then I Support original proposal (
Telem (political party) also mentions another 1996 party that was formed but did not win any seats). If the article is deleted, then merge the information into the main article so all 3 party information are easily distinguished. --
Gonnym (
talk) 15:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Support original proposal per nom and Gonnym. The disambiguators in ALT2 mean nothing to me, and using the year seems by far the easiest way to disambiguate the two. —
Amakuru (
talk) 17:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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– Both current titles are ambiguous, and "Telem" has several other uses (see
Telem (disambiguation)). They are both Israeli political parties, so the only ways I see to disambiguate them is by the year of their foundation (as above) or (ALT1 and ALT2 below) by the founders:
Moshe Ya'alon for the 2019 party, and
Moshe Dayan for the 1981 party.
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 03:04, 6 January 2019 (UTC)--Relisted. –
Ammarpad (
talk) 06:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
I note that this article is probably also eligible for
WP:CSD#G5 (pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, and that have no substantial edits by others) if we wanted to go that route. Is it best to retain this article, or would it be better to wait and recreate it after the party has done something other than be registered?
Dekimasuよ! 04:02, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Hi, I notified
Bbb23 here:
[1] that I was recreating the article as per the notice on the deleted page, which suggested that I notify the person who deleted the article. I have made some minor edits to the article; I think it is a worthwhile article that should be kept. Thank you.
David O. Johnson (
talk) 05:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose The original party is the primary subject for this title as it stands. In contrast to
David O. Johnson I am not convinced the new party is notable enough for its own article (shortly before Israeli elections there are often several articles on minor parties created that probably shouldn't be). I would rather do a G5 deletion and see in a few weeks whether the party is likely to get anywhere (e.g. is it crossing the threshold in opinion polls).
Number57 12:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
@
Number 57: The article has been re-created, and I see that you PRODded it. I have removed
[2] the PROD because
WP:GNG appears to be met. So the article exists, and we need a better name for it than the current ambiguous title. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
Support. (ALT 2) Many other parties are named similarly like,
JD (S),
JD(U) etc.
Bingobro(Chat) 13:49, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
If both articles are kept then I Support original proposal (
Telem (political party) also mentions another 1996 party that was formed but did not win any seats). If the article is deleted, then merge the information into the main article so all 3 party information are easily distinguished. --
Gonnym (
talk) 15:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Support original proposal per nom and Gonnym. The disambiguators in ALT2 mean nothing to me, and using the year seems by far the easiest way to disambiguate the two. —
Amakuru (
talk) 17:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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