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This guy is about 19 years and already a grandmaster, doesnt that make him the youngest grandmaster ever? Baku87 23:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87
Do we have any information on that even younger player? Also shouldnt it be noted that Teimour recently was appointed as the ambassador of Azerbaijan to some organisation, I readed it here. Also in that article his name is written as, Teymur Rajabov should we perhaps make a redirect to that name aswell? Baku87 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87
Why Aronian is so lucky when playing with Azeri grands? Last year it was Shah, this year it is Radjabov. And you Grandmaster if keep removing my comments I will file a complain on you because your allegations are groundless and pretensious indeed-- armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) - - Hey you, subseven, stop playing games here ok? Better deal with the problems in your MA. Covert Azeri agent, recognize your responsibilities and limitations. YOu have no business to decide what should people say in the discussion part. Whatever you like you leave whatever you dislike you remove or revert with stupid explanations. Get lost from Aronian and Radjabov' s sites and mind your business.-- armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) - OK, he just made the draw with Topalov. This means Radjabov did not win the tournament in Wejk aan Zee because Topalov will be the first due to his high individual score. - Wow, we just learned Aronian beat Tivjakov. Now Radjabov will be moved to the third place. -- armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by ArmenianNY ( talk • contribs)
I do not think there is any reason to spell his name like Teymour. We have to relate to the spelling of his name in his native Azeri language. And since Azeris use Latin letters in their written language then Azeri spelling Teymur should be maintained in English as well.For example, nobody transliterates Wijk aan Zee into Vaik an Zeye from Dutch to English as it is pronounced in English. The same way Tivjakov spells with J and not i because it is the spelling in English. And his last name should be written as Radcabov.
There is not need to mention that he is Jewish. If he conceals the fact that he is a Jew and does not mention it in his interviews (citation please, if he does) then mentioning that he is Jewish sounds either very antisemitic or the person, who points out that, is very pround of Radjabov's Jewish heritage. As a matter of fact, parallels with Kasparov are not even appropriate since Kasparov considers himself Armenian and not Jewish (which in true according to Jewish Galakha rules,since his mother is Armenian. Next time, please lets do not stress out people's ethnic backgrounds if these persons do not come out themselves. As for today, Radjabov is considered to be Azeri. Of course he looks like a real Jewish guy,so does Mamedyarov, but these facts are not for encyclopedic reference. Moreover, Berlin based Aronian's father is Jewish as well, but that does not make any sense for us Armenians, we consider himself an Armenian chess player. I hope very much Armenian wikiproject member Eupator is not involved in any kind of zionistic propaganda, and he is not an anti-semit either.-- armenianNY 04:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Eupator, if I were you I would have stayed cool. As a matter of fact it is you and not armenianny who needs to be reported. He clearly stated and wikipedia as well accepted, that pointing out prominential people's religion as a profiling information is not politically correct. When you emphasize that Radjabov is Jewish you first, insult Azerbaijani people because you do not want to accept that Azerbaijanis can also have good chess player and even when they have, they are mostly Jews. Second, if you want to show that you are pround of your and Radjabov;s Jewish heritage, then there is a good part of wikipedia called discussions where you can express your emptions and tell us that you are proud of being a Jew along with Radjabov.But when you want to start the encyclopedic entry or information about one of the talented chess players in the world with words "he is Jewish" you insult Jewish people because you offer it as a stigma. I talked to a lot of Jewish intellectuals and they all had the same opinion; to mention that somebody is Jewish is anti-semitism, any how, in any way, under any souce or contrast, you can not mention persons religion or ethnicity in the beginning of the profiling info. It is kind of infamous 5th paragraph of Soviet passports where along with name last name and place of birth age and other IDs Soviet authorities pointed out people's nationalities or moreover religion especially for Jewish people. It is the same thing that to start the article about Marat Safin with the words "very well known, former number one Russian muslim tatar tennis player". Will it be correct? of course no. Or Vladmir Mashkov who is a very well known Russian actor reminding us Marcello Mastroiani in his young ages,and who is of some Italian heritage will get offended immidiately if the Russian movie database tells the readers that he is a Russian actor and both he and Marcello Mastroiani have catholic fathers. So what? He is Russian (although catholic), Marcello is Italian. By doing this we will point out that all the Russians are orthodox and Vladimir Mashkov is catholic, he is an exception, he is a stigma. All I would like to tell you that you have to obey the rules, instead of personally attacking or correcting the changes made by others.Sorry for not signing,ERKIN FEB09/07
A lot of Radjabov's accomplishments are described without a definite tone. "It is also believed that Radjabov became the youngest player in history to defeat a reigning world #1 in a game at tournament time controls." and "He is probably the first player ever to beat three former and reigning FIDE World Chess Champions with the black pieces in one year." Can someone look these up and give definite examples?
Plus, the line "Radjabov became the first player born since Kasparov first became World Chess Champion in 1985 to defeat him." is definitely not true as Kasparov has lost many games after becoming champion most notably to Kramnik in 2000. -- Must WIN 22:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The anti-Armenianism category is irrelevant here. You cannot add such a category for a single statement that was probably misquoted. -- Grandmaster ( talk) 20:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC) It is relevant as this quote is too much famous and was condemned by FIDE leadership. noone rejected the responsibility! Andranikpasha ( talk) 20:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
And I fully agree. What does Rajabov has to do with the "Anti-armenianism"? -- Aynabend ( talk) 11:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the "Racism" headline doesn't belong on Radjabov's page, based on one single quote Radjabov himself said was incorrectly ascribed to him by a reporter. Bindingwithbriars ( talk) 19:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Changing the above mentioned headline to "Controversies" since calling Radjabov a racist isn't particularly well founded. Bindingwithbriars ( talk) 07:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
It would be great to have a little more analysis on the sample game, specifically if White accepts the sacrifice on move 22 (duh!), and also if White takes the pawn on move 25. Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 13:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it's appropriate to have a section called controversies in this article. Such section headlines are genereally discouraged per WP:Criticism which states "Sections or article titles should generally not include the word controversies". Controversis are further defined to be "protracted public disputes", and I don't think this is the case here. Regards, Iselilja ( talk) 17:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
The information about Radjabov's early life should remain in this article; it is sourced and standard on biographical articles on Wikipedia. WP:NOENG covers the issue of the languages of sources. To the IP-hopping edit warrior: you have violated WP:3RR. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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This guy is about 19 years and already a grandmaster, doesnt that make him the youngest grandmaster ever? Baku87 23:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87
Do we have any information on that even younger player? Also shouldnt it be noted that Teimour recently was appointed as the ambassador of Azerbaijan to some organisation, I readed it here. Also in that article his name is written as, Teymur Rajabov should we perhaps make a redirect to that name aswell? Baku87 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87
Why Aronian is so lucky when playing with Azeri grands? Last year it was Shah, this year it is Radjabov. And you Grandmaster if keep removing my comments I will file a complain on you because your allegations are groundless and pretensious indeed-- armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) - - Hey you, subseven, stop playing games here ok? Better deal with the problems in your MA. Covert Azeri agent, recognize your responsibilities and limitations. YOu have no business to decide what should people say in the discussion part. Whatever you like you leave whatever you dislike you remove or revert with stupid explanations. Get lost from Aronian and Radjabov' s sites and mind your business.-- armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) - OK, he just made the draw with Topalov. This means Radjabov did not win the tournament in Wejk aan Zee because Topalov will be the first due to his high individual score. - Wow, we just learned Aronian beat Tivjakov. Now Radjabov will be moved to the third place. -- armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by ArmenianNY ( talk • contribs)
I do not think there is any reason to spell his name like Teymour. We have to relate to the spelling of his name in his native Azeri language. And since Azeris use Latin letters in their written language then Azeri spelling Teymur should be maintained in English as well.For example, nobody transliterates Wijk aan Zee into Vaik an Zeye from Dutch to English as it is pronounced in English. The same way Tivjakov spells with J and not i because it is the spelling in English. And his last name should be written as Radcabov.
There is not need to mention that he is Jewish. If he conceals the fact that he is a Jew and does not mention it in his interviews (citation please, if he does) then mentioning that he is Jewish sounds either very antisemitic or the person, who points out that, is very pround of Radjabov's Jewish heritage. As a matter of fact, parallels with Kasparov are not even appropriate since Kasparov considers himself Armenian and not Jewish (which in true according to Jewish Galakha rules,since his mother is Armenian. Next time, please lets do not stress out people's ethnic backgrounds if these persons do not come out themselves. As for today, Radjabov is considered to be Azeri. Of course he looks like a real Jewish guy,so does Mamedyarov, but these facts are not for encyclopedic reference. Moreover, Berlin based Aronian's father is Jewish as well, but that does not make any sense for us Armenians, we consider himself an Armenian chess player. I hope very much Armenian wikiproject member Eupator is not involved in any kind of zionistic propaganda, and he is not an anti-semit either.-- armenianNY 04:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Eupator, if I were you I would have stayed cool. As a matter of fact it is you and not armenianny who needs to be reported. He clearly stated and wikipedia as well accepted, that pointing out prominential people's religion as a profiling information is not politically correct. When you emphasize that Radjabov is Jewish you first, insult Azerbaijani people because you do not want to accept that Azerbaijanis can also have good chess player and even when they have, they are mostly Jews. Second, if you want to show that you are pround of your and Radjabov;s Jewish heritage, then there is a good part of wikipedia called discussions where you can express your emptions and tell us that you are proud of being a Jew along with Radjabov.But when you want to start the encyclopedic entry or information about one of the talented chess players in the world with words "he is Jewish" you insult Jewish people because you offer it as a stigma. I talked to a lot of Jewish intellectuals and they all had the same opinion; to mention that somebody is Jewish is anti-semitism, any how, in any way, under any souce or contrast, you can not mention persons religion or ethnicity in the beginning of the profiling info. It is kind of infamous 5th paragraph of Soviet passports where along with name last name and place of birth age and other IDs Soviet authorities pointed out people's nationalities or moreover religion especially for Jewish people. It is the same thing that to start the article about Marat Safin with the words "very well known, former number one Russian muslim tatar tennis player". Will it be correct? of course no. Or Vladmir Mashkov who is a very well known Russian actor reminding us Marcello Mastroiani in his young ages,and who is of some Italian heritage will get offended immidiately if the Russian movie database tells the readers that he is a Russian actor and both he and Marcello Mastroiani have catholic fathers. So what? He is Russian (although catholic), Marcello is Italian. By doing this we will point out that all the Russians are orthodox and Vladimir Mashkov is catholic, he is an exception, he is a stigma. All I would like to tell you that you have to obey the rules, instead of personally attacking or correcting the changes made by others.Sorry for not signing,ERKIN FEB09/07
A lot of Radjabov's accomplishments are described without a definite tone. "It is also believed that Radjabov became the youngest player in history to defeat a reigning world #1 in a game at tournament time controls." and "He is probably the first player ever to beat three former and reigning FIDE World Chess Champions with the black pieces in one year." Can someone look these up and give definite examples?
Plus, the line "Radjabov became the first player born since Kasparov first became World Chess Champion in 1985 to defeat him." is definitely not true as Kasparov has lost many games after becoming champion most notably to Kramnik in 2000. -- Must WIN 22:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The anti-Armenianism category is irrelevant here. You cannot add such a category for a single statement that was probably misquoted. -- Grandmaster ( talk) 20:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC) It is relevant as this quote is too much famous and was condemned by FIDE leadership. noone rejected the responsibility! Andranikpasha ( talk) 20:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
And I fully agree. What does Rajabov has to do with the "Anti-armenianism"? -- Aynabend ( talk) 11:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the "Racism" headline doesn't belong on Radjabov's page, based on one single quote Radjabov himself said was incorrectly ascribed to him by a reporter. Bindingwithbriars ( talk) 19:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Changing the above mentioned headline to "Controversies" since calling Radjabov a racist isn't particularly well founded. Bindingwithbriars ( talk) 07:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
It would be great to have a little more analysis on the sample game, specifically if White accepts the sacrifice on move 22 (duh!), and also if White takes the pawn on move 25. Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 13:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it's appropriate to have a section called controversies in this article. Such section headlines are genereally discouraged per WP:Criticism which states "Sections or article titles should generally not include the word controversies". Controversis are further defined to be "protracted public disputes", and I don't think this is the case here. Regards, Iselilja ( talk) 17:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
The information about Radjabov's early life should remain in this article; it is sourced and standard on biographical articles on Wikipedia. WP:NOENG covers the issue of the languages of sources. To the IP-hopping edit warrior: you have violated WP:3RR. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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