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I have added a few citation needed templates to the article to label just some of its problems. I do not have time to identify all of them, and certainly cannot fix any of them at the moment. I think there are many more errors of fact in the current version. ThoughtIdRetired ( talk) 07:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Here are some links and spelling corrections for some of the ship names in the article:
Ariel
Fiery Cross
Serica
Taitsing
Taeping
Ziba – no article that I can find
Leander
Sir Lancelot
Flying Spur
ThoughtIdRetired (
talk)
19:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
MacGregor's book Merchant Sailing Ships, 1775-1815 (1985) is used as a reference to the article's statement: These races caught the public imagination of the day and were widely reported in newspapers.
This statement is correct, though it should be qualified by when the newspapers started coverage of the tea races and when interest faded away. The problem is that the reference has no mention of this at page 155 (the page number given in the article) – that page is actually given over to some illustrations, none of which are of clippers. Given the date range in the title of the book, you would not expect to find this discussed in it anyway. Nor is this mentioned at the same page in the other two books in MacGregor's series on merchant sailing ships (the respective pages are another page of illustrations and a discussion on steam auxiliary sailing ships). Nor does his The Tea Clippers make this statement at page 155, though there is a discussion there of the relative speeds of Ariel and some other ships, but no mention of newspapers. I have similarly checked Fast Sailing Ships and British and American Clippers, by the same author. I could start checking some of Lubbock's books, but he wrote an awful lot of them.
Essentially, then, this is a failed verification issue. Has there been a transcription error in adding this reference? It would be nice to have this properly referenced, ideally with the dates to which such a statement should be applied. ThoughtIdRetired ( talk) 13:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 31 July 2023. The result of the discussion was keep. |
![]() | This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. |
I have added a few citation needed templates to the article to label just some of its problems. I do not have time to identify all of them, and certainly cannot fix any of them at the moment. I think there are many more errors of fact in the current version. ThoughtIdRetired ( talk) 07:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Here are some links and spelling corrections for some of the ship names in the article:
Ariel
Fiery Cross
Serica
Taitsing
Taeping
Ziba – no article that I can find
Leander
Sir Lancelot
Flying Spur
ThoughtIdRetired (
talk)
19:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
MacGregor's book Merchant Sailing Ships, 1775-1815 (1985) is used as a reference to the article's statement: These races caught the public imagination of the day and were widely reported in newspapers.
This statement is correct, though it should be qualified by when the newspapers started coverage of the tea races and when interest faded away. The problem is that the reference has no mention of this at page 155 (the page number given in the article) – that page is actually given over to some illustrations, none of which are of clippers. Given the date range in the title of the book, you would not expect to find this discussed in it anyway. Nor is this mentioned at the same page in the other two books in MacGregor's series on merchant sailing ships (the respective pages are another page of illustrations and a discussion on steam auxiliary sailing ships). Nor does his The Tea Clippers make this statement at page 155, though there is a discussion there of the relative speeds of Ariel and some other ships, but no mention of newspapers. I have similarly checked Fast Sailing Ships and British and American Clippers, by the same author. I could start checking some of Lubbock's books, but he wrote an awful lot of them.
Essentially, then, this is a failed verification issue. Has there been a transcription error in adding this reference? It would be nice to have this properly referenced, ideally with the dates to which such a statement should be applied. ThoughtIdRetired ( talk) 13:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)