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Does anyone know who her successor will be?
He or she will most likely be named within the next few days. aww 13:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
If the line stays within her family, it will almost certainly pass to her eldest son, Tuheitia Paki (21st April 1955).
I could not find a wikipedia for him.
If the title leaves the
Tainui, it will likely be passed to Tumu
Te Heuheu of
Ngāti Tuwharetoa.
Manaroa
13:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
The first nation link redirects to the indigenous Canadian people. I don't particularly want to remove the link, mainly because of my ignorance on what "first nation" refers to in the Pacific Islands and Oz/NZ. Can someone clarify and maybe edit either this or the first nation article. Thanks. Tellkel 15:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The Methodist Church of New Zealand has another image of Kaahu-- http://www.methodist.org.nz/index.cfm/Touchstone/July_2006/Maori_queen_honoured.html -- Zanimum 16:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Radio NZ, NZ Herald, BBC, dozens of other sources have her as Te Atairangikaahu. I've changed it to that. -- Zanimum 16:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Also, we should insert an IPA pronounciation. That names a mouthful. 71.214.251.22 00:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we can use this image in the article; according to the fair use rationale "the use of low-resolution images of magazine covers to illustrate the publication of the issue of the magazine in question, with the publication name either visible on the image itself or written in the image description above [...] qualifies as fair use". This isn't the case here, and in fact Wikipedia:Fair use specifically states that "an image of a magazine cover, used only to illustrate the article on the person whose photograph is on the cover" is not fair use. Ziggurat 00:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Press photos cannot be used as fair use images. See WP:FAIR#Counterexamples #5. BigDT 12:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
It says the foll ref was "retrieved" which implies it is online. What's the URL pls? "Four decades of our kind of queen; THEY SAY", The Dominion Post, 2006-05-27. Retrieved on 2006-08-15. Nurg 00:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
SECTION: NEWS; NATIONAL; THE INSIDER; Pg. 15 LENGTH: 1363 words HEADLINE: Four decades of our kind of queen; THEY SAY BYLINE: SCHOUTEN Hank ... LOAD-DATE: May 30, 2006
-- Kunzite 12:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's a source with a full title and names of all children as well as predecessors. -- Kunzite 22:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I have once again added in the Remembering Link to this memorial because it is totally relevant and certainly not 'mere promotion.' The online memorial established here is true testimony to the regard her people and the wider community held this person in and is the ONLY NZ national record of its kind. It contains personal comments of a significant number of people and has historical value. I consider it far more relevant than any general news item about the event which also serves to 'promote' the publication concerned. This memorial was established free of charge and developed with a conisderable amout of volunteer effort - unlike any general 'news' item which has been placed in a paid publication. Could you please reinspect this link as the servers were down for an extended period yesterday for upgrading. -- Remembering 10:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Once again I must take issue with the removal of the external link to remembering.co.nz on the Dame Te Ata memorial. The fact is that Television New Zealand, the New Zealand Herald Radio New Zealand, stuff etc are all commercial organisations. Do these groups pay you to keep their links on the page? I can only assume this because two of them no longer work and another two are no longer live - that's out of 12 links. Television New Zealand also has a very limited number of personal tributes on its page just as Remembering does. Would a link to Remembering be better placed in the References section. Just how do you define a commercial site? This is not a mere attempt to score publicity! We have no need for that. Remembering receives scores (sometimes hundreds) of visitors on a daily basis. Many edcuational organisations use us regularly and this is a PERMANENT memorial quite unilike the commercial news links which Wikipedia is littered with and which don't last. I respectfully request that this request be reconsidered and a link at least be added to the References section. -- Remembering 10:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[Note: the above conversation was] Retrieved from User_talk:Gadfium
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I have read the page you refer to and appreciate the points made. As a result I put my request for a link to the memorial created to Te Arikinui Dame Te Atairangikaahu on Remembering for the reasons listed below. I ask the editors responsible to consider this link request in relation to the points made below and in reference to the guidelines offered on WP:RS which make allowance for "commonsense and the occasional exception." I consider such a link would add value to the current information provided because:
Finally, we consider we hold a taonga on behalf of the people of Tainui, many of whom have made comment througout this memorial.
NOTE: On the matter of self published web sites we understand and accept Wikipedia's general concerns. In this case however, we believe the exception is warranted also on the basis that Remembering itself has directly overseen and taken charge for the development of this memorial. This is indicated by the statement "This memorial was created by Remembering on 15/08/2006" which appears at the top right of all memorials of this type. In the case of Dame Te Ata's memorial there were three independent reviewers or 'editors' as you might call them, one who is University based, a second who is a respected Maori cleric and a third volunteer contributor who reviewed and cleared the contents of a particular press release. Big Brother Barry - http://www.artsfoundation.org.nz/barrybarclay.html has no financial interest with the site was also called upon for his views. This was in addition to the efforts of three senior journalists, ie ourselves Peter Barclay, Allan Barclay and Denise Barclay-- Remembering 21:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I had a look around the site. Im not really sure a like to it is really correct. Is there a more "offical" tribute site that could be linked to? - SimonLyall 07:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility) says: "Titles of knighthood such as Sir and Dame are not normally included in the article title: e.g. Arthur Conan Doyle, not "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle" (which is a redirect). However, Sir may be used in article titles as a disambiguator when a name is ambiguous and one of those who used it was knighted, e.g. Sir Arthur Dean. A person's full title (including both prefix and post-nominals) should be given in the article itself. Honorary knights – roughly, those not from the Commonwealth – are not called Sir; knights bachelor have no post-nominals." I read this as saying that this article should be called Te Atairangikaahu not Dame Te Atairangikaahu. Stuartyeates ( talk) 21:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Does anyone know who her successor will be?
He or she will most likely be named within the next few days. aww 13:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
If the line stays within her family, it will almost certainly pass to her eldest son, Tuheitia Paki (21st April 1955).
I could not find a wikipedia for him.
If the title leaves the
Tainui, it will likely be passed to Tumu
Te Heuheu of
Ngāti Tuwharetoa.
Manaroa
13:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
The first nation link redirects to the indigenous Canadian people. I don't particularly want to remove the link, mainly because of my ignorance on what "first nation" refers to in the Pacific Islands and Oz/NZ. Can someone clarify and maybe edit either this or the first nation article. Thanks. Tellkel 15:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The Methodist Church of New Zealand has another image of Kaahu-- http://www.methodist.org.nz/index.cfm/Touchstone/July_2006/Maori_queen_honoured.html -- Zanimum 16:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Radio NZ, NZ Herald, BBC, dozens of other sources have her as Te Atairangikaahu. I've changed it to that. -- Zanimum 16:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Also, we should insert an IPA pronounciation. That names a mouthful. 71.214.251.22 00:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we can use this image in the article; according to the fair use rationale "the use of low-resolution images of magazine covers to illustrate the publication of the issue of the magazine in question, with the publication name either visible on the image itself or written in the image description above [...] qualifies as fair use". This isn't the case here, and in fact Wikipedia:Fair use specifically states that "an image of a magazine cover, used only to illustrate the article on the person whose photograph is on the cover" is not fair use. Ziggurat 00:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Press photos cannot be used as fair use images. See WP:FAIR#Counterexamples #5. BigDT 12:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
It says the foll ref was "retrieved" which implies it is online. What's the URL pls? "Four decades of our kind of queen; THEY SAY", The Dominion Post, 2006-05-27. Retrieved on 2006-08-15. Nurg 00:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
SECTION: NEWS; NATIONAL; THE INSIDER; Pg. 15 LENGTH: 1363 words HEADLINE: Four decades of our kind of queen; THEY SAY BYLINE: SCHOUTEN Hank ... LOAD-DATE: May 30, 2006
-- Kunzite 12:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's a source with a full title and names of all children as well as predecessors. -- Kunzite 22:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I have once again added in the Remembering Link to this memorial because it is totally relevant and certainly not 'mere promotion.' The online memorial established here is true testimony to the regard her people and the wider community held this person in and is the ONLY NZ national record of its kind. It contains personal comments of a significant number of people and has historical value. I consider it far more relevant than any general news item about the event which also serves to 'promote' the publication concerned. This memorial was established free of charge and developed with a conisderable amout of volunteer effort - unlike any general 'news' item which has been placed in a paid publication. Could you please reinspect this link as the servers were down for an extended period yesterday for upgrading. -- Remembering 10:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Once again I must take issue with the removal of the external link to remembering.co.nz on the Dame Te Ata memorial. The fact is that Television New Zealand, the New Zealand Herald Radio New Zealand, stuff etc are all commercial organisations. Do these groups pay you to keep their links on the page? I can only assume this because two of them no longer work and another two are no longer live - that's out of 12 links. Television New Zealand also has a very limited number of personal tributes on its page just as Remembering does. Would a link to Remembering be better placed in the References section. Just how do you define a commercial site? This is not a mere attempt to score publicity! We have no need for that. Remembering receives scores (sometimes hundreds) of visitors on a daily basis. Many edcuational organisations use us regularly and this is a PERMANENT memorial quite unilike the commercial news links which Wikipedia is littered with and which don't last. I respectfully request that this request be reconsidered and a link at least be added to the References section. -- Remembering 10:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[Note: the above conversation was] Retrieved from User_talk:Gadfium
[RESET INDENT]
I have read the page you refer to and appreciate the points made. As a result I put my request for a link to the memorial created to Te Arikinui Dame Te Atairangikaahu on Remembering for the reasons listed below. I ask the editors responsible to consider this link request in relation to the points made below and in reference to the guidelines offered on WP:RS which make allowance for "commonsense and the occasional exception." I consider such a link would add value to the current information provided because:
Finally, we consider we hold a taonga on behalf of the people of Tainui, many of whom have made comment througout this memorial.
NOTE: On the matter of self published web sites we understand and accept Wikipedia's general concerns. In this case however, we believe the exception is warranted also on the basis that Remembering itself has directly overseen and taken charge for the development of this memorial. This is indicated by the statement "This memorial was created by Remembering on 15/08/2006" which appears at the top right of all memorials of this type. In the case of Dame Te Ata's memorial there were three independent reviewers or 'editors' as you might call them, one who is University based, a second who is a respected Maori cleric and a third volunteer contributor who reviewed and cleared the contents of a particular press release. Big Brother Barry - http://www.artsfoundation.org.nz/barrybarclay.html has no financial interest with the site was also called upon for his views. This was in addition to the efforts of three senior journalists, ie ourselves Peter Barclay, Allan Barclay and Denise Barclay-- Remembering 21:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I had a look around the site. Im not really sure a like to it is really correct. Is there a more "offical" tribute site that could be linked to? - SimonLyall 07:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility) says: "Titles of knighthood such as Sir and Dame are not normally included in the article title: e.g. Arthur Conan Doyle, not "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle" (which is a redirect). However, Sir may be used in article titles as a disambiguator when a name is ambiguous and one of those who used it was knighted, e.g. Sir Arthur Dean. A person's full title (including both prefix and post-nominals) should be given in the article itself. Honorary knights – roughly, those not from the Commonwealth – are not called Sir; knights bachelor have no post-nominals." I read this as saying that this article should be called Te Atairangikaahu not Dame Te Atairangikaahu. Stuartyeates ( talk) 21:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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