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He was born in England, to English parents, and now lives in England. He may have spent part of his childhood in Wales, and speak some Welsh Gaelic, but that does not make him Welsh. That he considers himself Welsh does not make him Welsh. Royalcourtier ( talk) 21:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Welsh isn't Gaelic; they are entirely distinct languages. 20:36, 6 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aredbeardeddwarf ( talk • contribs)
Yeah I just came to this page to ask about this. He speaks with the accent but is pretty much English. I guess it doesn't matter too much since they use the same passports and citizenship, but it's an odd one. HughMorris15 ( talk) 16:09, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
One of the sources linked in the article includes this quote: '“All my friends are Welsh, I speak Welsh, and I feel very Welsh,” he said.' Cythraul ( talk) 10:16, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I think this matter needs to be solved. I have tried to change his nationality to British a couple of times to solve the dispute, only to see him reverted back to either Welsh or English. Surely common sense says he should simply be labelled as British, right? Scf1985 ( talk) 04:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes Tshepang Med Hox Mtshepose ( talk) 18:10, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps:”......is an English actor who identifies as Welsh despite having a very tenuous link to Welsh ancestry, the pretentious little turd” might satisfy everyone? Kentish 7 September 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.133.61 ( talk) 18:52, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Individuals may identify more closely with being "British" or with being "English", "Irish, "Northern Irish", "Scottish" or "Welsh"
per
WP:UKNATIONALS, and he clearly identifies more closely with being Welsh. Furthermore,
a plethora of reliable sources also regard Egerton as Welsh, therefore, we should adhere to
MOS:ROLEBIO and describe him in the lead sentence as he is commonly described in reliable sources
.
KyleJoan
talk
03:12, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
vandalism from offended anonymous readers, we deal with those through protection of the article when necessary, not through compromising policies and guidelines to concede to their disruption. Speaking of policies and guidelines, I just cited one above, and for the sake of adhering to it, would you mind providing reliable sources that regard Egerton as British to see how many of them do so, Politovsky? KyleJoan talk 02:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
At this late stage the issue seems to have been resolved. It's still worth making this observation about UK nationality (based, as it is, on a statement by User:Escape_Orbit in the talk page of the article about Susan Calman:
This is not as complex an issue as some seem to believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:EA01:1090:8944:B8:AC61:201 ( talk) 16:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
I assume that Taron can sing, and from the article appears to be a tenor. Perhaps he can also dance - and entirely different skill. But what does "He is a tenor through music and dance, specialising in stage combat" mean?? Royalcourtier ( talk) 21:46, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
There have been multiple recent changes to the article to change the place of Egerton's birth (at least three different places in the cursory review I made, including Penrith, Birkenhead, and Liverpool), but no reliable sources have been cited to substantiate the varying claims. I'm going to remove the place of birth with an edit comment to direct folks here for those who want to discuss it. If you have a reliable source, then feel free to add it in. – 108.56.139.120 ( talk) 21:03, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Is there any correlation between Egertons's Johnny singing "I'm Still Standing" in Sing, and Egerton getting the role of Elton John in Rocketman? I think it's possible there's a connection. He certainly did a great job in Sing. If it's a coincidence, it's a pretty big one, IMO. Jororo05 ( talk) 16:22, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Should the first sentence describe Egerton as British, English or Welsh? KyleJoan talk 03:52, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
We would also need ten reliable sources to support "British"You really shouldn't make this an issue of counting sources, as there are multiple reliable sources that do describe him as British. He was born in Birkenhead, and moved to Aberystwyth when he was 12, so he was born in England. MOS:OPENPARABIO advises we use their birth place in the opening paragraph. But MOS:IDENTITY says use the term that the person uses – he was born in England... Egerton considers himself to be Welsh - so my suggestion is we use that terminology in the lead. And on a side note, Wales is part of the UK, so his passport will list him as a British citizen. Isaidnoway (talk) 04:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Seems that he's widely accepted as a singer and has performed multiple roles that involve singing and musical performances with Elton John. So how many sources are required to confirm this? Johnny Rose 11 ( talk) 12:08, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Sori, ond dwy “taron” ddim yn thunder; mae’n “taran”. Mae taron fel “strike” ynte 58.104.114.30 ( talk) 23:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
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Is an English actor 92.233.222.18 ( talk) 16:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
This is not accurate, not only was he the supporting role (only one role has a name), but he quickly and dramatically dropped out before opening. 2603:7000:A703:C99C:4CBF:1AF2:8AE0:F965 ( talk) 05:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Stage career; "The Last of the Haussmanns" was at the National Theatre, directed by Sir Nicholas Hytner with Julie Walters, he performed there the summer he graduated.
He was also at the Royal Court, https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2013/jan/17/no-quarter-review
In 2011, while a student, he was winner of a prestigious award by the Stephen Sondheim Society. Stephen Sondheim Society Student Performer of the Year-
https://www.sondheimsociety.com/2011
In 2007, while at school, he was already playing the lead in "Little Shop of Horrors."
http://www.theatre-wales.co.uk/reviews/reviews_details.asp?offset=3075&reviewID=2892
Beirniad33 (
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09:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
A future movie that's going to start filming in 2024, they have a SAG-AFTRA Interim agreement. Taron Egerton will play the lead role, and the movie is an adaptation of Jordan Harper's novel. Taron Egerton is also set to serve as executive producer.
Source: https://deadline.com/2023/10/taron-egerton-movie-she-rides-shotgun-black-bear-afm-1235583974/
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He was born in England, to English parents, and now lives in England. He may have spent part of his childhood in Wales, and speak some Welsh Gaelic, but that does not make him Welsh. That he considers himself Welsh does not make him Welsh. Royalcourtier ( talk) 21:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Welsh isn't Gaelic; they are entirely distinct languages. 20:36, 6 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aredbeardeddwarf ( talk • contribs)
Yeah I just came to this page to ask about this. He speaks with the accent but is pretty much English. I guess it doesn't matter too much since they use the same passports and citizenship, but it's an odd one. HughMorris15 ( talk) 16:09, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
One of the sources linked in the article includes this quote: '“All my friends are Welsh, I speak Welsh, and I feel very Welsh,” he said.' Cythraul ( talk) 10:16, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I think this matter needs to be solved. I have tried to change his nationality to British a couple of times to solve the dispute, only to see him reverted back to either Welsh or English. Surely common sense says he should simply be labelled as British, right? Scf1985 ( talk) 04:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes Tshepang Med Hox Mtshepose ( talk) 18:10, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps:”......is an English actor who identifies as Welsh despite having a very tenuous link to Welsh ancestry, the pretentious little turd” might satisfy everyone? Kentish 7 September 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.133.61 ( talk) 18:52, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Individuals may identify more closely with being "British" or with being "English", "Irish, "Northern Irish", "Scottish" or "Welsh"
per
WP:UKNATIONALS, and he clearly identifies more closely with being Welsh. Furthermore,
a plethora of reliable sources also regard Egerton as Welsh, therefore, we should adhere to
MOS:ROLEBIO and describe him in the lead sentence as he is commonly described in reliable sources
.
KyleJoan
talk
03:12, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
vandalism from offended anonymous readers, we deal with those through protection of the article when necessary, not through compromising policies and guidelines to concede to their disruption. Speaking of policies and guidelines, I just cited one above, and for the sake of adhering to it, would you mind providing reliable sources that regard Egerton as British to see how many of them do so, Politovsky? KyleJoan talk 02:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
At this late stage the issue seems to have been resolved. It's still worth making this observation about UK nationality (based, as it is, on a statement by User:Escape_Orbit in the talk page of the article about Susan Calman:
This is not as complex an issue as some seem to believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:EA01:1090:8944:B8:AC61:201 ( talk) 16:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
I assume that Taron can sing, and from the article appears to be a tenor. Perhaps he can also dance - and entirely different skill. But what does "He is a tenor through music and dance, specialising in stage combat" mean?? Royalcourtier ( talk) 21:46, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
There have been multiple recent changes to the article to change the place of Egerton's birth (at least three different places in the cursory review I made, including Penrith, Birkenhead, and Liverpool), but no reliable sources have been cited to substantiate the varying claims. I'm going to remove the place of birth with an edit comment to direct folks here for those who want to discuss it. If you have a reliable source, then feel free to add it in. – 108.56.139.120 ( talk) 21:03, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Is there any correlation between Egertons's Johnny singing "I'm Still Standing" in Sing, and Egerton getting the role of Elton John in Rocketman? I think it's possible there's a connection. He certainly did a great job in Sing. If it's a coincidence, it's a pretty big one, IMO. Jororo05 ( talk) 16:22, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Should the first sentence describe Egerton as British, English or Welsh? KyleJoan talk 03:52, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
We would also need ten reliable sources to support "British"You really shouldn't make this an issue of counting sources, as there are multiple reliable sources that do describe him as British. He was born in Birkenhead, and moved to Aberystwyth when he was 12, so he was born in England. MOS:OPENPARABIO advises we use their birth place in the opening paragraph. But MOS:IDENTITY says use the term that the person uses – he was born in England... Egerton considers himself to be Welsh - so my suggestion is we use that terminology in the lead. And on a side note, Wales is part of the UK, so his passport will list him as a British citizen. Isaidnoway (talk) 04:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Sock comments and discussion thereof -- Blablubbs| talk 23:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC) |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
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Seems that he's widely accepted as a singer and has performed multiple roles that involve singing and musical performances with Elton John. So how many sources are required to confirm this? Johnny Rose 11 ( talk) 12:08, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Sori, ond dwy “taron” ddim yn thunder; mae’n “taran”. Mae taron fel “strike” ynte 58.104.114.30 ( talk) 23:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
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Is an English actor 92.233.222.18 ( talk) 16:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
This is not accurate, not only was he the supporting role (only one role has a name), but he quickly and dramatically dropped out before opening. 2603:7000:A703:C99C:4CBF:1AF2:8AE0:F965 ( talk) 05:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Stage career; "The Last of the Haussmanns" was at the National Theatre, directed by Sir Nicholas Hytner with Julie Walters, he performed there the summer he graduated.
He was also at the Royal Court, https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2013/jan/17/no-quarter-review
In 2011, while a student, he was winner of a prestigious award by the Stephen Sondheim Society. Stephen Sondheim Society Student Performer of the Year-
https://www.sondheimsociety.com/2011
In 2007, while at school, he was already playing the lead in "Little Shop of Horrors."
http://www.theatre-wales.co.uk/reviews/reviews_details.asp?offset=3075&reviewID=2892
Beirniad33 (
talk)
09:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
A future movie that's going to start filming in 2024, they have a SAG-AFTRA Interim agreement. Taron Egerton will play the lead role, and the movie is an adaptation of Jordan Harper's novel. Taron Egerton is also set to serve as executive producer.
Source: https://deadline.com/2023/10/taron-egerton-movie-she-rides-shotgun-black-bear-afm-1235583974/