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Hey Calvin and Tomica great work on this page so far and well done at saving it (I'm pretty sure it was you two - sorry if it wasn't). However I don't think that Calvin Harris would have produced the entire album otherwise he would be listed as a featured artist on every song - just like We Found Love - which is unlikely as that would be more like a collaboration album. Muthamonster ( talk) 08:12, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
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I don't think that an off-the-cuff comment from a Capital FM DJ is a solid source for the UK release date of the album. I suggest that this be removed until we find some concrete evidence that this is the release date, in accordance with WP:RELIABLESOURCES. SplashScreen ( talk) 19:15, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
That does not include details of a UK release date. SplashScreen ( talk) 14:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
just announced on facebook — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.6.243.10 ( talk) 16:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Critics have commented on the video and given a description of it, which is included in the prose. I think it should be included in the info box. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
I say that it should be in the article. Even if it hasn't sturred up controversy yet, it will. She's blowing smoke out of her mouth for heaven's sakes! — Status { talk contribs 12:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
click new section on the top of the page and start typing. BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 23:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
The is absolutely no point in adding the deluxe edition cover; it adds no new information to the article and just takes up space. Do NOT add it to this article. Jmagicvamp ( talk) 19:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Some people feel strongly that it should be included because of how there is critical and comparative commentaries between the two covers, however, others feel that it should not be included as it fails notability. In short, some think it's notable, other it's not notable. So, if people could either write Support or Oppose having the deluxe cover in the article, with a reason, I think that a general consensus can be easily reached amongst editors. Thanks. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon!
The section has been expanded with more commentaries, especially with regard to the smoke, which seems to be the main focal point here. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 20:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I must say the covers are VERY different. That's important. And please read the article before commenting. That helps. Oh and Thank you @Tomica. I did not know. BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 20:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Say, everyone go to Tha Carter IV and scroll down. The deluxe edition artwork is in the lower section. Let's put the deluxe edition artwork as a regular picture in the title and artwork section. Good idea or bad? BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 13:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Let's be serious. There is no decision. Obviously there are more "Supports" than "Opposes" so the cover should be included. Yet if we do include it, the others will take it down. And the cycle repeats itself. Just look at this talk page. It's ridiculous. Almost every section has to do with the cover. I say, let's work this out now or forget about it. Let's work on the page itself. It needs work. Who's with me? BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 18:32, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
6 Supports, 1 Oppose. Consensus: Support inclusion of Deluxe Edition Cover Artwork. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 17:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I know there is only one confirmed track but should we start a section or not? BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 13:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry i wont take it personally. lol. BenWasHere ( talk) 14:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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{{Track listing Standard edition [1]
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a fan sent her this on twitter and ri herself said it was fake. BenWasHere ( talk) 21:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
She did. plus she is still recording. so they havent even made the tracklist yet BenWasHere ( talk) 16:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Source is reliable, why hasn't this been added? And just because she is still recording doesn't mean that the track listing isn't real. She isn't exactly an artist that records 30+ songs for an album. Her and her team probably have most of the track list planned before recording has finished. — Status { talk contribs 21:35, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
She Said she was still recording. who puts out a tracklist if they don't know what songs are on it? annnnnnnddddddd lots of peeps spread out the deluxe songs. annnnnnnddddD we are probabayly giong to unlock it. BenWasHere ( talk) 10:58, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
That tracklist is fake. The confirmed next single is called "You The One" and they are still recording. -- 84.113.151.242 ( talk) 21:41, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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The current track list is fake, Digital Spy are mistaken, they just copied the list of songs from here, which is only a picture that shows rihanna putting in a list which songs are completed and which songs she still needs to work on.....it is by no means the tracklist...
This, however, is the official real final tracklist for the stand and deluxe editions:
Standard:
1. You Da One (3:20)
2. Where Have You Been (4:02)
3. We Found Love (3:36)
4. Talk That Talk (3:29)
5. Cockiness (Love It) (2:58)
6. Birthday Cake
7. We All Want Love (3:57)
8. Drunk On Love (3:32)
9. Roc Me Out (3:29)
10. Watch n’ Learn (3:31)
11. Farewell (4:16)
Deluxe:
12. Red Lipstick (3:37)
13. Do Ya Thang (3:43)
14. Fool In Love (4:15)
Can someone fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cockinesss ( talk • contribs) 03:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
yea this sounds kinda fishy..... BenWasHere ( talk) 12:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
The song birthday cake is not 1:18, the one that has been leaked isnt even the complete song.
Yeah, is Urban Bridgez reliable for track listing? Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:10, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
still seems kinda fishy... but perhaps it is true. i say keep it until further notice BenWasHere ( talk) 21:27, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
NME is a reliable source. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:55, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Then add it. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
How do you know that Jay-Z is featured in the title track?
On November 5, 2011, Rihanna confirmed via her Facebook page that the final track listing of Talk That Talk will comprise 14 songs. The songs were not listed in order. The track listing was revealed by the blog Urban Bridgez and confirmed by Rihanna on Twitter. [3] The deluxe edition of the album will be packaged in a two disc digipak set; disc one featuring standard edition tracks, disc two featuring four bonus tracks (two bonus and two remixs). [4]
Why the 3 deluxe edition bonus tracks, Red Lipstick, Do Ya Thing, and Fool in Love, not mentioned in the tracklisting?....it's already been confirmed by MTV and Def Pen Radio that those 3 are the bonus tracks in the deluxe edition, so why they are not mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cockinesss ( talk • contribs) 23:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Red Lipstick, Do Ya Thing, and Fool in Love are now finally confirmed by iTunes...im gonna add them to the article... Cockinesss ( talk) 04:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Calvin • TalkThatTalk 19:08, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
All sources I have seen states that Alex Da Kid is the producer of Farewell.... * http://www.rap-up.com/2011/11/09/rihanna-reveals-second-single-producers-on-talk-that-talk/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.207.22 ( talk) 17:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
For the future:
"Rihanna‘s new record, Talk That Talk, is the dirtiest “pop” record we have ever heard."-- mikomango mwa! 20:55, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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Please change the Second Songwriters name on the Song "Cockiness" to D. Abernathy. This is his Manager Darone Bowers of FM Management...Thanks
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Why is there no article yet for this single? The single was released today. It would be understandable if there was no release date but the date had been confirmed for a while. Thanks. -- 92.7.25.92 ( talk) 19:12, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Well some songs chart and have no page. if you would like to make about 500 more articles of songs that don't need it, be my guest. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I understand thanks. -- 92.7.25.92 ( talk) 19:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
i was arguing with you saying that it doesn't have enough info, and you were saying the exact same thing. lol BenWasHere ( talk) 21:40, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
the real album art has a Parental Advisory sign. i think the covers should change to the real covers. in songs like Talk That Talk we're hearing the F word and also some songs contain sexual content and there's no CLEAN version of album. ( Reza (Let'sTalk) 21:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC))
Actually we do include the artworks that have the explicit content sign, take a look: Relapse (album), Recovery (Eminem album), Hell: The Sequel and so many others and on every websites, you can see the cover with this sign. for example, Allmusic included the explicit cover in it's review and so many others.
and about the clean version, when i wanted to buy this album they told me there's no clean version of the album yet and it's only the dirty one. this album acts like Madonna's Erotica album, full of sexual content. if there's gonna be a clean version, you only hear instruments without words.
and about that sticker. it's not a sticker, it's on cover of the album. i owned it and it's on the cover.( Reza (Let'sTalk) 06:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC))
Why is there no mention of the leak in this article? I just did a quick Google search for articles on it and found: " http://globalgrind.com/style/rihanna-gets-loud-and-leggy-london-photos" (second paragraph). There are undoubtedly more. Could it be written in somewhere? 82.33.34.230 ( talk) 00:31, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
I found about seven grammer mistakes, mostly incorrect use of commas: a comma is needed if: you can make two sentences into one(compound sentence) he took the cake, and he ate it. two sentences: he took the cake; he ate it a comma is not needed if you cannot do the above(complex sentence): he took the cake and ate it. please be careful. Thank you BenWasHere ( talk) 02:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
atm? BenWasHere ( talk) 22:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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Please remove the track listing time for birthday cake, it is not accurate and the source of the time is not even a valid link, replace all the times with none until a valid track listing can be posted. DonutHoles ( talk) 05:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC) It leaked. how much more of a source do you want. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Can someone please change the article to reflect this. I bought the deluxe edition and there was no DVD. Neither of the cited links or Amazon seem to indicate it comes with a DVD so it can't be a regional thing. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.93.169 ( talk) 04:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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The song "Fool In Love" under the "Deluxe edition additional tracks" section is missing credit for producer Cirkut. For reliable sources, Cirkut is listed as a producer in the official credits in the "Talk That Talk" CD booklet. Please make this edit so that the credits read correctly. Thank you.
75.83.122.27 ( talk) 21:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
"[...] the album received generally positive reviews from critics, many of which complimented its departure from the dark themes presented on her fourth and fifth studio albums, Rated R (2009) and Loud (2010), respectively."
Loud was already a departure from the dark theme presented on her fourth album, Rated R. There's no reason to have this information on the article, Loud does not include dark themes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.103.128.72 ( talk) 01:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
If you go on the website for UK certifications, the album has already been certified Platinum in the UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.90.7 ( talk) 13:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
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Why havent articles for Do Ya Thing, Fool In Love and Red Lipstick been made. They have charted on UK R&B singles Chart. ref: [2] Syedwaheedhussain ( talk) 18:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
according to this, talk that talk has sold WW more than a million copies its at number 25 it is suposed to be from the official united world charts but i dont know it webpage http://www.cromosomax.com/11953-united-world-chart-corona-a-21-de-adele-como-el-disco-mas-vendido-de-2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.64.171.158 ( talk) 00:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
TTT had sold over 2millions copies WW http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2011.htm this are the sales of last year plus this http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week01-2012.htm from the first week of 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.50.131.28 ( talk) 20:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Rihanna has stated on her twitter that she will turn "Birthday Cake" into a full song in 2012, where would we put that in the article? Because it is pretty notable, especially since it would change the structure of the album?-- Jakeriederer ( talk) 19:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
This source talks about all of the songs: http://www.fourthestatenewspaper.com/mobile/4play/rihanna-s-reign-just-won-t-let-up-1.2772892 Aaron • You Da One 14:30, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't think Birthday Cake is a single only cuz rihanna released the complete version... -- PidiContent ( talk) 13:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
It sais on the album page that Birthday cake is the 4th single, should we turn that into a single page? Kalestorm ( talk) 00:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
where did you guys get info that where have you been is the 5th single? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalestorm ( talk • contribs) 23:37, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I think that hip-hop she be included in the info box since over 50% of the album utilizes it (You Da One, Where Have You Been, Talk That Talk, Cockiness, Birthday Cake, Watch n' Learn, etc.), what do you think?-- (CA)Giacobbe ( talk) 03:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
With a recent music video shoot for "Where have you been", isn't it safe to say that "Talk that talk" and "Birthday cake" (who are listed before "Where have you been" as singles) are only promotional singles or radio singles? I mean, real singles always have an accompanied video for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VSfan88 ( talk • contribs) 07:24, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Isn't it more appropiate to mark "Birthday cake" as a US radio-single? Isn't it obvious that Rihanna just released the song as a "single" to make profit of the "Chris Brown sang on it-scandal". The song didn't really have a real international single-release and also doesn't have a music video which is still essentiell for chart-success in some countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VSfan88 ( talk • contribs) 13:02, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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I dont understand why we must have the chart peaks that the album reached in 2011 and 2012 seperately. Only the albums highest peak, no matter what year should be displayed. Billy4kate ( talk) 02:07, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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TTT Has hit number one on the uk album charts again!. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums it says 6 atm change pls!??. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.119.50 ( talk) 17:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Since they're part of the same chart run, are they needed? I find them useless. ׺°”˜`”°º× ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 08:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I agree that there should only be ONE list for where the album peaked at and how high. Having one for both 2011 and 2012 is both confusing and ridiculous - no other major international artist has this so why does Rihanna? Also, TTT NEVER reached no.1 on the Official Aria Singles Chart in neither 2011 or 2012. It peaked at no. 5. On the Urban Albums Chart it did reach no.1 however. 124.177.137.169 ( talk) 12:11, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
According to HitsDailyDouble, US Sales for TTT are now at 1,015,000 (a good 35,000 off from what is currently reflected on Wikipedia). Not sure where the number is other than here: http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/sales_ur.cgi -- but there must be some way to archive this page and then cite it, I just have no idea how...hence my request.-- mikomango mwa! 05:25, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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an example of what i mean is the charts on Adele's 21 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onlythetruthisappropriate ( talk • contribs) 21:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Per MOS:CHARTS, albums which peak on different charts during different years are formatted with the charts for the more recent year in a separate table below the earlier table. There's no need for listing peaks from the same chart within a specified time frame. If it peaked at #3 on a chart when it was released, you don't put in a peak of #10 for the same chart just because the calendar changed. Its peak position is still 3. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 19:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Cúchullain t/ c 19:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Talk That Talk →
Talk That Talk (Rihanna album) – Yes, I know this is more popular than the jazz album, but that album was released first.
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On the page it's got sourced information on the genres, in the order of Pop, R&B and dance, I haven't got a problem with that but I'm a tiny bit confused on a thing, in the page it states it is an dance-oriented pop and R&B shouldn't Dance come before pop and R&B? D to the ina, R to the ae☻ My Talk Page 17:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: RESULT Not done/Nom withdrawn – Davey2010 Talk 23:30, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
– No indication that this album is more likely to be the desired article when a reader searches for "Talk That Talk" over
Johnny "Hammond" Smith's 1960 album,
Jackie Wilson's #3 R&B hit from 1969, and
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Closing admin: Please note that I no longer support this move, but can (as of this writing) not withdraw the RM per another editor's support. (See
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Hey Calvin and Tomica great work on this page so far and well done at saving it (I'm pretty sure it was you two - sorry if it wasn't). However I don't think that Calvin Harris would have produced the entire album otherwise he would be listed as a featured artist on every song - just like We Found Love - which is unlikely as that would be more like a collaboration album. Muthamonster ( talk) 08:12, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
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I don't think that an off-the-cuff comment from a Capital FM DJ is a solid source for the UK release date of the album. I suggest that this be removed until we find some concrete evidence that this is the release date, in accordance with WP:RELIABLESOURCES. SplashScreen ( talk) 19:15, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
That does not include details of a UK release date. SplashScreen ( talk) 14:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
just announced on facebook — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.6.243.10 ( talk) 16:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Critics have commented on the video and given a description of it, which is included in the prose. I think it should be included in the info box. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
I say that it should be in the article. Even if it hasn't sturred up controversy yet, it will. She's blowing smoke out of her mouth for heaven's sakes! — Status { talk contribs 12:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
click new section on the top of the page and start typing. BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 23:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
The is absolutely no point in adding the deluxe edition cover; it adds no new information to the article and just takes up space. Do NOT add it to this article. Jmagicvamp ( talk) 19:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Some people feel strongly that it should be included because of how there is critical and comparative commentaries between the two covers, however, others feel that it should not be included as it fails notability. In short, some think it's notable, other it's not notable. So, if people could either write Support or Oppose having the deluxe cover in the article, with a reason, I think that a general consensus can be easily reached amongst editors. Thanks. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon!
The section has been expanded with more commentaries, especially with regard to the smoke, which seems to be the main focal point here. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 20:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I must say the covers are VERY different. That's important. And please read the article before commenting. That helps. Oh and Thank you @Tomica. I did not know. BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 20:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Say, everyone go to Tha Carter IV and scroll down. The deluxe edition artwork is in the lower section. Let's put the deluxe edition artwork as a regular picture in the title and artwork section. Good idea or bad? BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 13:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Let's be serious. There is no decision. Obviously there are more "Supports" than "Opposes" so the cover should be included. Yet if we do include it, the others will take it down. And the cycle repeats itself. Just look at this talk page. It's ridiculous. Almost every section has to do with the cover. I say, let's work this out now or forget about it. Let's work on the page itself. It needs work. Who's with me? BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 18:32, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
6 Supports, 1 Oppose. Consensus: Support inclusion of Deluxe Edition Cover Artwork. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 17:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I know there is only one confirmed track but should we start a section or not? BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) ( talk) 13:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry i wont take it personally. lol. BenWasHere ( talk) 14:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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a fan sent her this on twitter and ri herself said it was fake. BenWasHere ( talk) 21:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
She did. plus she is still recording. so they havent even made the tracklist yet BenWasHere ( talk) 16:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Source is reliable, why hasn't this been added? And just because she is still recording doesn't mean that the track listing isn't real. She isn't exactly an artist that records 30+ songs for an album. Her and her team probably have most of the track list planned before recording has finished. — Status { talk contribs 21:35, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
She Said she was still recording. who puts out a tracklist if they don't know what songs are on it? annnnnnnddddddd lots of peeps spread out the deluxe songs. annnnnnnddddD we are probabayly giong to unlock it. BenWasHere ( talk) 10:58, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
That tracklist is fake. The confirmed next single is called "You The One" and they are still recording. -- 84.113.151.242 ( talk) 21:41, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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The current track list is fake, Digital Spy are mistaken, they just copied the list of songs from here, which is only a picture that shows rihanna putting in a list which songs are completed and which songs she still needs to work on.....it is by no means the tracklist...
This, however, is the official real final tracklist for the stand and deluxe editions:
Standard:
1. You Da One (3:20)
2. Where Have You Been (4:02)
3. We Found Love (3:36)
4. Talk That Talk (3:29)
5. Cockiness (Love It) (2:58)
6. Birthday Cake
7. We All Want Love (3:57)
8. Drunk On Love (3:32)
9. Roc Me Out (3:29)
10. Watch n’ Learn (3:31)
11. Farewell (4:16)
Deluxe:
12. Red Lipstick (3:37)
13. Do Ya Thang (3:43)
14. Fool In Love (4:15)
Can someone fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cockinesss ( talk • contribs) 03:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
yea this sounds kinda fishy..... BenWasHere ( talk) 12:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
The song birthday cake is not 1:18, the one that has been leaked isnt even the complete song.
Yeah, is Urban Bridgez reliable for track listing? Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:10, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
still seems kinda fishy... but perhaps it is true. i say keep it until further notice BenWasHere ( talk) 21:27, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
NME is a reliable source. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:55, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Then add it. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
How do you know that Jay-Z is featured in the title track?
On November 5, 2011, Rihanna confirmed via her Facebook page that the final track listing of Talk That Talk will comprise 14 songs. The songs were not listed in order. The track listing was revealed by the blog Urban Bridgez and confirmed by Rihanna on Twitter. [3] The deluxe edition of the album will be packaged in a two disc digipak set; disc one featuring standard edition tracks, disc two featuring four bonus tracks (two bonus and two remixs). [4]
Why the 3 deluxe edition bonus tracks, Red Lipstick, Do Ya Thing, and Fool in Love, not mentioned in the tracklisting?....it's already been confirmed by MTV and Def Pen Radio that those 3 are the bonus tracks in the deluxe edition, so why they are not mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cockinesss ( talk • contribs) 23:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Red Lipstick, Do Ya Thing, and Fool in Love are now finally confirmed by iTunes...im gonna add them to the article... Cockinesss ( talk) 04:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Calvin • TalkThatTalk 19:08, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
All sources I have seen states that Alex Da Kid is the producer of Farewell.... * http://www.rap-up.com/2011/11/09/rihanna-reveals-second-single-producers-on-talk-that-talk/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.207.22 ( talk) 17:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
For the future:
"Rihanna‘s new record, Talk That Talk, is the dirtiest “pop” record we have ever heard."-- mikomango mwa! 20:55, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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Please change the Second Songwriters name on the Song "Cockiness" to D. Abernathy. This is his Manager Darone Bowers of FM Management...Thanks
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Why is there no article yet for this single? The single was released today. It would be understandable if there was no release date but the date had been confirmed for a while. Thanks. -- 92.7.25.92 ( talk) 19:12, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Well some songs chart and have no page. if you would like to make about 500 more articles of songs that don't need it, be my guest. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I understand thanks. -- 92.7.25.92 ( talk) 19:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
i was arguing with you saying that it doesn't have enough info, and you were saying the exact same thing. lol BenWasHere ( talk) 21:40, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
the real album art has a Parental Advisory sign. i think the covers should change to the real covers. in songs like Talk That Talk we're hearing the F word and also some songs contain sexual content and there's no CLEAN version of album. ( Reza (Let'sTalk) 21:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC))
Actually we do include the artworks that have the explicit content sign, take a look: Relapse (album), Recovery (Eminem album), Hell: The Sequel and so many others and on every websites, you can see the cover with this sign. for example, Allmusic included the explicit cover in it's review and so many others.
and about the clean version, when i wanted to buy this album they told me there's no clean version of the album yet and it's only the dirty one. this album acts like Madonna's Erotica album, full of sexual content. if there's gonna be a clean version, you only hear instruments without words.
and about that sticker. it's not a sticker, it's on cover of the album. i owned it and it's on the cover.( Reza (Let'sTalk) 06:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC))
Why is there no mention of the leak in this article? I just did a quick Google search for articles on it and found: " http://globalgrind.com/style/rihanna-gets-loud-and-leggy-london-photos" (second paragraph). There are undoubtedly more. Could it be written in somewhere? 82.33.34.230 ( talk) 00:31, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
I found about seven grammer mistakes, mostly incorrect use of commas: a comma is needed if: you can make two sentences into one(compound sentence) he took the cake, and he ate it. two sentences: he took the cake; he ate it a comma is not needed if you cannot do the above(complex sentence): he took the cake and ate it. please be careful. Thank you BenWasHere ( talk) 02:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
atm? BenWasHere ( talk) 22:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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Please remove the track listing time for birthday cake, it is not accurate and the source of the time is not even a valid link, replace all the times with none until a valid track listing can be posted. DonutHoles ( talk) 05:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC) It leaked. how much more of a source do you want. BenWasHere ( talk) 11:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Can someone please change the article to reflect this. I bought the deluxe edition and there was no DVD. Neither of the cited links or Amazon seem to indicate it comes with a DVD so it can't be a regional thing. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.93.169 ( talk) 04:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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The song "Fool In Love" under the "Deluxe edition additional tracks" section is missing credit for producer Cirkut. For reliable sources, Cirkut is listed as a producer in the official credits in the "Talk That Talk" CD booklet. Please make this edit so that the credits read correctly. Thank you.
75.83.122.27 ( talk) 21:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
"[...] the album received generally positive reviews from critics, many of which complimented its departure from the dark themes presented on her fourth and fifth studio albums, Rated R (2009) and Loud (2010), respectively."
Loud was already a departure from the dark theme presented on her fourth album, Rated R. There's no reason to have this information on the article, Loud does not include dark themes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.103.128.72 ( talk) 01:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
If you go on the website for UK certifications, the album has already been certified Platinum in the UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.90.7 ( talk) 13:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
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Why havent articles for Do Ya Thing, Fool In Love and Red Lipstick been made. They have charted on UK R&B singles Chart. ref: [2] Syedwaheedhussain ( talk) 18:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
according to this, talk that talk has sold WW more than a million copies its at number 25 it is suposed to be from the official united world charts but i dont know it webpage http://www.cromosomax.com/11953-united-world-chart-corona-a-21-de-adele-como-el-disco-mas-vendido-de-2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.64.171.158 ( talk) 00:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
TTT had sold over 2millions copies WW http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2011.htm this are the sales of last year plus this http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week01-2012.htm from the first week of 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.50.131.28 ( talk) 20:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Rihanna has stated on her twitter that she will turn "Birthday Cake" into a full song in 2012, where would we put that in the article? Because it is pretty notable, especially since it would change the structure of the album?-- Jakeriederer ( talk) 19:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
This source talks about all of the songs: http://www.fourthestatenewspaper.com/mobile/4play/rihanna-s-reign-just-won-t-let-up-1.2772892 Aaron • You Da One 14:30, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't think Birthday Cake is a single only cuz rihanna released the complete version... -- PidiContent ( talk) 13:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
It sais on the album page that Birthday cake is the 4th single, should we turn that into a single page? Kalestorm ( talk) 00:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
where did you guys get info that where have you been is the 5th single? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalestorm ( talk • contribs) 23:37, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I think that hip-hop she be included in the info box since over 50% of the album utilizes it (You Da One, Where Have You Been, Talk That Talk, Cockiness, Birthday Cake, Watch n' Learn, etc.), what do you think?-- (CA)Giacobbe ( talk) 03:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
With a recent music video shoot for "Where have you been", isn't it safe to say that "Talk that talk" and "Birthday cake" (who are listed before "Where have you been" as singles) are only promotional singles or radio singles? I mean, real singles always have an accompanied video for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VSfan88 ( talk • contribs) 07:24, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Isn't it more appropiate to mark "Birthday cake" as a US radio-single? Isn't it obvious that Rihanna just released the song as a "single" to make profit of the "Chris Brown sang on it-scandal". The song didn't really have a real international single-release and also doesn't have a music video which is still essentiell for chart-success in some countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VSfan88 ( talk • contribs) 13:02, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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I dont understand why we must have the chart peaks that the album reached in 2011 and 2012 seperately. Only the albums highest peak, no matter what year should be displayed. Billy4kate ( talk) 02:07, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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TTT Has hit number one on the uk album charts again!. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums it says 6 atm change pls!??. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.119.50 ( talk) 17:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Since they're part of the same chart run, are they needed? I find them useless. ׺°”˜`”°º× ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 08:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I agree that there should only be ONE list for where the album peaked at and how high. Having one for both 2011 and 2012 is both confusing and ridiculous - no other major international artist has this so why does Rihanna? Also, TTT NEVER reached no.1 on the Official Aria Singles Chart in neither 2011 or 2012. It peaked at no. 5. On the Urban Albums Chart it did reach no.1 however. 124.177.137.169 ( talk) 12:11, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
According to HitsDailyDouble, US Sales for TTT are now at 1,015,000 (a good 35,000 off from what is currently reflected on Wikipedia). Not sure where the number is other than here: http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/sales_ur.cgi -- but there must be some way to archive this page and then cite it, I just have no idea how...hence my request.-- mikomango mwa! 05:25, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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Dan56 (
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05:55, 20 October 2012 (UTC)would it not make sense to merge the 2012 chart positions with the 2011 to make it a 2011-12 chart because if the album chart higher in 2011 then in 2012 what is the point of that ask if you want me to explain more into detail because it's hard to explain what i mean -- Onlythetruthisappropriate ( talk) 21:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
an example of what i mean is the charts on Adele's 21 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onlythetruthisappropriate ( talk • contribs) 21:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Per MOS:CHARTS, albums which peak on different charts during different years are formatted with the charts for the more recent year in a separate table below the earlier table. There's no need for listing peaks from the same chart within a specified time frame. If it peaked at #3 on a chart when it was released, you don't put in a peak of #10 for the same chart just because the calendar changed. Its peak position is still 3. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 19:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Cúchullain t/ c 19:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Talk That Talk →
Talk That Talk (Rihanna album) – Yes, I know this is more popular than the jazz album, but that album was released first.
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22:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
On the page it's got sourced information on the genres, in the order of Pop, R&B and dance, I haven't got a problem with that but I'm a tiny bit confused on a thing, in the page it states it is an dance-oriented pop and R&B shouldn't Dance come before pop and R&B? D to the ina, R to the ae☻ My Talk Page 17:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: RESULT Not done/Nom withdrawn – Davey2010 Talk 23:30, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
– No indication that this album is more likely to be the desired article when a reader searches for "Talk That Talk" over
Johnny "Hammond" Smith's 1960 album,
Jackie Wilson's #3 R&B hit from 1969, and
Rihanna's 2012 international hit single combined, which is one of the criteria for a term being a
primary topic. –
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Closing admin: Please note that I no longer support this move, but can (as of this writing) not withdraw the RM per another editor's support. (See
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