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The "talian" is a variety of italian language with a strongly influence by venetian. This is the correct version. In Italy the venetian nationalists have differente opinion, but I don't understand why in other part of article we say "Italian immigrants first began settling in this region in the late 1870s. These Italians were from many different regions of Italy, but many spoke Veneto" but at first we say that all of these spoken venetian! And the other Italians? -- Ilario 11:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
As far that I know there is a explanation for this. Venetian immigration to Brazil was so strong that other Italians were pushed to adapt to the Venetian dialect while living in small villages alongside with the Venetian majority.
This happened mostly in the south states of Brazil (Parana, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul). However, in São Paulo state (southeast region) the venetian presence was in less extent and the immigrants from southern Italy did dominate the scene (many, many from Naples, San Genaro is a big thing there), so there was no Venetian influence. In fact, I am surprised that the Wikipedia article talks about venetian ("talian") speakers in São Paulo. -- 189.114.26.102 ( talk) 03:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Colleagues, Below please find an exchange between editor JorvisS and myself of the us of the pronoun before "dialct". I don't seem to be getting through to this editor who keeps changing the sentence. Your opinions are welcome.
"A language"/ "a dialect" is the way we speak about languages. "English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca", NOT "English is the West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca". There are no other "West Germanic languages that were first spoken in early medieval England and are now a global lingua franca".
"Sicilian (lu sicilianu, Italian: lingua siciliana, also known as Siculu or Calabro-Sicilian) is a Romance language. "
Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 23:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 10:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
In the interest of attracting more participation, I have opened a paralell discussion at English language, a page that enjoys far greater visibility. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 12:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
A source claims that 65% of people in Espírito Santo state are of Italian ancestry. However, historian Maria Cristina Dadalto wrote here [1]: "uma profícua produção literária produzida sobre a imigração italiana no estado ajudou a construir e a fortalecer este mito" ("a fruitful literature produced on Italian immigration in the state helped build and strengthen this myth"). In fact, Espírito Santo received very few Italian immigrantes to result a population that would be 65% Italian in ancestry now. So I removed the controversial information from the article. Xuxo ( talk) 18:21, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
gêneros diversos, como um dos estados com maior densidade de imigração italiana do Brasil." "E.S. is cited with some frequency, in texts of various kinds, as one of the states with the greatest density of Italian immigration in Brazil." so, the citation is not sufficient to justify removing cited information that your source says is "cited with some frequency" in other places. Please just add whatever you think is necessary to balance the article out on this question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David.thompson.esq ( talk • contribs) 23:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
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The "talian" is a variety of italian language with a strongly influence by venetian. This is the correct version. In Italy the venetian nationalists have differente opinion, but I don't understand why in other part of article we say "Italian immigrants first began settling in this region in the late 1870s. These Italians were from many different regions of Italy, but many spoke Veneto" but at first we say that all of these spoken venetian! And the other Italians? -- Ilario 11:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
As far that I know there is a explanation for this. Venetian immigration to Brazil was so strong that other Italians were pushed to adapt to the Venetian dialect while living in small villages alongside with the Venetian majority.
This happened mostly in the south states of Brazil (Parana, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul). However, in São Paulo state (southeast region) the venetian presence was in less extent and the immigrants from southern Italy did dominate the scene (many, many from Naples, San Genaro is a big thing there), so there was no Venetian influence. In fact, I am surprised that the Wikipedia article talks about venetian ("talian") speakers in São Paulo. -- 189.114.26.102 ( talk) 03:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Colleagues, Below please find an exchange between editor JorvisS and myself of the us of the pronoun before "dialct". I don't seem to be getting through to this editor who keeps changing the sentence. Your opinions are welcome.
"A language"/ "a dialect" is the way we speak about languages. "English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca", NOT "English is the West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca". There are no other "West Germanic languages that were first spoken in early medieval England and are now a global lingua franca".
"Sicilian (lu sicilianu, Italian: lingua siciliana, also known as Siculu or Calabro-Sicilian) is a Romance language. "
Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 23:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 10:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
In the interest of attracting more participation, I have opened a paralell discussion at English language, a page that enjoys far greater visibility. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 12:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
A source claims that 65% of people in Espírito Santo state are of Italian ancestry. However, historian Maria Cristina Dadalto wrote here [1]: "uma profícua produção literária produzida sobre a imigração italiana no estado ajudou a construir e a fortalecer este mito" ("a fruitful literature produced on Italian immigration in the state helped build and strengthen this myth"). In fact, Espírito Santo received very few Italian immigrantes to result a population that would be 65% Italian in ancestry now. So I removed the controversial information from the article. Xuxo ( talk) 18:21, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
gêneros diversos, como um dos estados com maior densidade de imigração italiana do Brasil." "E.S. is cited with some frequency, in texts of various kinds, as one of the states with the greatest density of Italian immigration in Brazil." so, the citation is not sufficient to justify removing cited information that your source says is "cited with some frequency" in other places. Please just add whatever you think is necessary to balance the article out on this question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David.thompson.esq ( talk • contribs) 23:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
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