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Whisper of the Heart was not a Hayao Miyazaki film it was actually made by his apprentice see the article at Whisper of the Heart, he was a producer Rgoodermote 18:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't have anything to cite for this, but my impression was that the was refering to west Virginia, not West Virginia. As this entry mentions, that is where the Shenadoah river and the Blue Ridge Mountains are. PerlKnitter ( talk) 17:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Traveling US 340 from Maryland, you pass through West Virginia right where you cross the Shenandoah River. The Blue Ridge Mountains rise steeply on your left and the trees drape the road as you travel. No matter what the season it is one of the most beautiful sights I have ever seen. Whether it's winter and the snow blankets the area or spring with the lilacs in bloom, I never fail to be choked up as we cross the river.
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Isn't there a techno cover of this song too... I don't know the artist, but it is pretty popular at high school parties in Norway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.139.246.107 ( talk) 18:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ray Charles did a cover of this, it's the 8th track of Message From The People.
Why is most famous world-wide cover, Toots and the Maytalls' reggaeized version, released in 1973 in Jamaica and then again in the US and rest of the world in 75, not listed? I'm using a phone now, showing some folks that it was actually written by the couple who are more famous for Afternoon Delight, noone ever believes tha, but when I have the time and get to something more useful, I will add it in. And this article is protected?? It looks like it's essentially -been- vandalized already,by someone who loves Brithouse.... SmarterAlec ( talk) 07:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I've always thought of " Rocky Mountain High" as Denver's signature song. Does anyone have a reference more authoritative than one person's opinion on a trading site? Heck, I'd even consider this poll a better reference, as it's at least more than one person. Darguz Parsilvan ( talk) 11:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
The song is actually (as I recall) about Route 118, not 117. 118 is a long road that wound through the rural (back then, anyway) parts of Maryland. 117 is a short road that, in effect, leads nowhere. It runs from Route 28 NW of Poolesville, to 355 in Gaithersburg. As to the song referring to west Virginia instead of West Virginia, Virginia is no "stranger to blue water" (a reference to the ocean) nor a "miner's lady," at least not to the degree that West Virginia is known for it's mining industry. The references to the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah River can be attributed to poetic license, as there were several rewrites from the rough version Bill & Taffy presented to John Denver. The Shenandoah does have a confluence with the Potomac River at Harper's Ferry, a place that can be reached by starting out on Route 118. Hope this helps clear up any confusion, and feel free to correct any misinformation I've presented. 69.205.113.102 ( talk) 23:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)Thor
There's a (70's I think/70s style country) cover by Freddy Quinn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyoNOl24KHs & http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1405568 109.224.137.121 ( talk) 19:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
This song was also sung by Stan Smith and his band of illegal Mexican immigrants in an episode of the American Dad cartoon. It should be added to the Use in popular culture section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilikeguys21 ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I attended Morgantown High from 1977-1980, and my sister graduated from Morgantown High in 1977. I know many people who were at Morgantown high all through the 70's and 80's including an assistant principle, and all of them say John Denver never performed there. The citation in the Wiki article is to a Daily Atheneum article from 2016. This is the student-run newspaper of West Virginia. The DA article, which was almost certainly written by a student, provides no citations for its "facts" about the song. The statement that Denver performed the song at Morgantown High School in 1977 needs to be removed unless some other proof that this actually happened is provided. Marknlaura ( talk) 04:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
The song words say nothing like that. It was previously asserted that "Sweet Home Alabama" was about "natural beauty". Are you people complete nerds? Do you understand anything? Or is this just a stock response? All songs that refer to places are about "natural beauty". Is this written by robots?-- Jack Upland ( talk) 08:33, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
There's no mention in this article of this song's use in the mashup "Forever Country," which went to #1 on the country chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooveeguy ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Roy Acuff recorded this. Smoky Mountain Memories, 1975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.44.44 ( talk) 06:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Update: I added a section for this. As-yet missing a source for the album/year released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.44.44 ( talk) 06:33, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
The first two sources cited in the "Composition" section are the same article, originally in The Baltimore Sun and later distributed by the Associated Press.
Should the two sources be combined or not? -- Pemilligan ( talk) 01:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The Blue Ridge Mountains and Shenandoah River in West Virginia are only to be found in the far Eastern Panhandle. This is the portion that is drained into the Chesapeake Bay via the Potomac River. The remainder of the state is in the Ohio watershed. Heff01 ( talk) 04:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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The song is about an old Country road in Montgomery County MD called Clopper Rd, and has nothing to do with West Virginia. Source here in interview with John Denver himself. https://wtop.com/dc/2020/12/real-story-behind-take-me-home-country-roads-debut-50-years-ago-in-dc-club/ 2806:10AE:13:7382:609E:B225:3751:1D2C ( talk) 16:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
One (likely) or more people keep vandalizing this article attempting to claim that the song, despite having the lyric 'West Virginia' in it, is really about Western Virginia. The claims have been that the Shenandoah River doesn't run through West Virginia, and neither do the Blue Ridge Mountains. Both claims are provably false. The Blue Ridge Mountains do in fact run through West Virginia, as is shown on the article on them. The Shenandoah River also runs through the state as well, as can clearly be seen at this Google Maps link. The attempts to vandalize this article to state the song is about Western Virginia instead of West Virginia will always be reverted. Whomever is doing this, please stop wasting our time and yours. Thank you, -- Hammersoft ( talk) 00:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Just searching for this and among the first set of search results [3] [4] [5] it's clear they are talking about the state, and not a portion of Virginia. I don't think there's anyone out there who really thinks this song means western Virginia. The subject is obviously intentionally the state, even if the writers and Denver had never been to the state. They are referring to the state. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 00:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Onetwothreeip: Five times now [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] you have removed "about West Virginia" from the lede of the article in a slow burning edit war that began April 16 and continues to this day. Three editors (and shortly four, after I revert your non-consensus change) have reverted your addition. You are edit warring. It is quite clear you do not have consensus for this change. If you revert again, I will be making a request to have you partially blocked from making further edits to this article. Edit warring is not a means to an end. No matter how right you think you are, your actions are now the problem. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 17:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC) (and just to head off any potential controversy; while I am an administrator, I am not making any statement here in an administrator's capacity, as I am WP:INVOLVED in regards to this article)
Glaring omission in wikipedia entries for this and the John Denver main page. Omitted is the song and Denver's connection to China: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/05/what-john-denver-means-some-asian-immigrants/618784/ Theaternearyou ( talk) 19:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Following on from the previous discussion, and abandoning anything about whether the song is about western Virginia, there are two issues regarding the subject of the song. 1) Whether the song is about the state of West Virginia, and 2) where the subject of the song is described in the article.
To the first point, we simply do not have reliable sources stating that the song is about West Virginia. In fact, we have reliable sources stating that the song is not about any particular place, and is inspired by places in multiple American states including but not limited to West Virginia. This could be disproven by simply providing reliable sources stating that the subject of the song is West Virginia, but these do not appear to exist, and are contrary to the sources that exist in the article. There are, of course, sources that confirm the state of West Virginia is named in the song and there should be no controversy in reporting this in the article.
To the second point, we should not be describing the song in the first sentence of the article, and probably not the first paragraph either. Doing so would be contrary to our normal practices for music articles, regardless of the accuracy of the information. No matter what the song is about, we shouldn't be saying this in the first sentence.
I will wait for and invite discussion on these two points to have clarity on the article. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 23:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Try to not overload the first sentence by describing everything notable about the subject [of the article]. Instead use the first sentence to introduce the topic, and then spread the relevant information out over the entire lead.Also precedent, I looked at other song articles and none that I saw included a summary of the song's synopsis.
The very source you claim proves it's not about West Virginia can be read to prove it is about West Virginia.Which source is this?
...your assertion that it has nothing to do with West Virginia.This is a lie, I have never made this assertion, and I reject that assertion.
I've reverted your cn addition as the later source proves it's about West Virginia.I presume you are referring to the same source that you allude to earlier?
Please, by all means, STOP this senseless changing and changing and changing and changing and changing and changing of the article.This is the only time I have added a citation needed tag to the article, which you have reverted. I have honoured my earlier commitment not to change any claims in the article relating to the subject of the song (i.e. whether the song is about West Virginia). Onetwothreeip ( talk) 22:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
I read the opinions on this, but as I actually own farm in Shenandoah in western Virginia with west Virginia a short hike away trust me not some fool who would piss himself at the sight of a black bear and song of a coyote. The blue ridge mountains begin in front royal, virginia. That is where the road along the ridge (skyline drive) begins. Possibly some foothills extend into Maryland or west Virginia, but those aren't close to being mountains. The Shenandoah river is in Virginia. I kayak it regularly. Lots of small mouth bass. It flows north to the Potomac river. If it spends any time in west Virginia is irrelevant. I'm not about to Google map it as some city folk did. I know the river. The writer said inspiration came from trip to gaithersburg, Maryland. Nice place to commute to DC from. You can see foothills from there while speeding along an interstate nowadays. Anyway, matters not at all. Let west Virginia have one insignificant thing to cherish. 204.111.9.2 ( talk) 02:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
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there was no " disruptive editing" just going to Youtube John Denver Take Me Home Country Roads has 400 million views the most of any of his music! This very article says it has 1.5 million digital downloads! so you can leave out my revision and try to "protect" it from facts but just know your article is less accurate because of it. Next time ask for the source instead of declaring vandalism. DAEDRICH THE MAN TUCKER ( talk) 19:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change “Regional anthem” to “State anthem” 67.242.156.125 ( talk) 00:26, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Forty-eight of the fifty U.S. states have one or more state songs, a type of regional anthem. TG HL ↗ 🍁 16:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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Whisper of the Heart was not a Hayao Miyazaki film it was actually made by his apprentice see the article at Whisper of the Heart, he was a producer Rgoodermote 18:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't have anything to cite for this, but my impression was that the was refering to west Virginia, not West Virginia. As this entry mentions, that is where the Shenadoah river and the Blue Ridge Mountains are. PerlKnitter ( talk) 17:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Traveling US 340 from Maryland, you pass through West Virginia right where you cross the Shenandoah River. The Blue Ridge Mountains rise steeply on your left and the trees drape the road as you travel. No matter what the season it is one of the most beautiful sights I have ever seen. Whether it's winter and the snow blankets the area or spring with the lilacs in bloom, I never fail to be choked up as we cross the river.
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Isn't there a techno cover of this song too... I don't know the artist, but it is pretty popular at high school parties in Norway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.139.246.107 ( talk) 18:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ray Charles did a cover of this, it's the 8th track of Message From The People.
Why is most famous world-wide cover, Toots and the Maytalls' reggaeized version, released in 1973 in Jamaica and then again in the US and rest of the world in 75, not listed? I'm using a phone now, showing some folks that it was actually written by the couple who are more famous for Afternoon Delight, noone ever believes tha, but when I have the time and get to something more useful, I will add it in. And this article is protected?? It looks like it's essentially -been- vandalized already,by someone who loves Brithouse.... SmarterAlec ( talk) 07:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I've always thought of " Rocky Mountain High" as Denver's signature song. Does anyone have a reference more authoritative than one person's opinion on a trading site? Heck, I'd even consider this poll a better reference, as it's at least more than one person. Darguz Parsilvan ( talk) 11:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
The song is actually (as I recall) about Route 118, not 117. 118 is a long road that wound through the rural (back then, anyway) parts of Maryland. 117 is a short road that, in effect, leads nowhere. It runs from Route 28 NW of Poolesville, to 355 in Gaithersburg. As to the song referring to west Virginia instead of West Virginia, Virginia is no "stranger to blue water" (a reference to the ocean) nor a "miner's lady," at least not to the degree that West Virginia is known for it's mining industry. The references to the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah River can be attributed to poetic license, as there were several rewrites from the rough version Bill & Taffy presented to John Denver. The Shenandoah does have a confluence with the Potomac River at Harper's Ferry, a place that can be reached by starting out on Route 118. Hope this helps clear up any confusion, and feel free to correct any misinformation I've presented. 69.205.113.102 ( talk) 23:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)Thor
There's a (70's I think/70s style country) cover by Freddy Quinn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyoNOl24KHs & http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1405568 109.224.137.121 ( talk) 19:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
This song was also sung by Stan Smith and his band of illegal Mexican immigrants in an episode of the American Dad cartoon. It should be added to the Use in popular culture section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilikeguys21 ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I attended Morgantown High from 1977-1980, and my sister graduated from Morgantown High in 1977. I know many people who were at Morgantown high all through the 70's and 80's including an assistant principle, and all of them say John Denver never performed there. The citation in the Wiki article is to a Daily Atheneum article from 2016. This is the student-run newspaper of West Virginia. The DA article, which was almost certainly written by a student, provides no citations for its "facts" about the song. The statement that Denver performed the song at Morgantown High School in 1977 needs to be removed unless some other proof that this actually happened is provided. Marknlaura ( talk) 04:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
The song words say nothing like that. It was previously asserted that "Sweet Home Alabama" was about "natural beauty". Are you people complete nerds? Do you understand anything? Or is this just a stock response? All songs that refer to places are about "natural beauty". Is this written by robots?-- Jack Upland ( talk) 08:33, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
There's no mention in this article of this song's use in the mashup "Forever Country," which went to #1 on the country chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooveeguy ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Roy Acuff recorded this. Smoky Mountain Memories, 1975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.44.44 ( talk) 06:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Update: I added a section for this. As-yet missing a source for the album/year released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.44.44 ( talk) 06:33, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
The first two sources cited in the "Composition" section are the same article, originally in The Baltimore Sun and later distributed by the Associated Press.
Should the two sources be combined or not? -- Pemilligan ( talk) 01:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
The Blue Ridge Mountains and Shenandoah River in West Virginia are only to be found in the far Eastern Panhandle. This is the portion that is drained into the Chesapeake Bay via the Potomac River. The remainder of the state is in the Ohio watershed. Heff01 ( talk) 04:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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The song is about an old Country road in Montgomery County MD called Clopper Rd, and has nothing to do with West Virginia. Source here in interview with John Denver himself. https://wtop.com/dc/2020/12/real-story-behind-take-me-home-country-roads-debut-50-years-ago-in-dc-club/ 2806:10AE:13:7382:609E:B225:3751:1D2C ( talk) 16:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
One (likely) or more people keep vandalizing this article attempting to claim that the song, despite having the lyric 'West Virginia' in it, is really about Western Virginia. The claims have been that the Shenandoah River doesn't run through West Virginia, and neither do the Blue Ridge Mountains. Both claims are provably false. The Blue Ridge Mountains do in fact run through West Virginia, as is shown on the article on them. The Shenandoah River also runs through the state as well, as can clearly be seen at this Google Maps link. The attempts to vandalize this article to state the song is about Western Virginia instead of West Virginia will always be reverted. Whomever is doing this, please stop wasting our time and yours. Thank you, -- Hammersoft ( talk) 00:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Just searching for this and among the first set of search results [3] [4] [5] it's clear they are talking about the state, and not a portion of Virginia. I don't think there's anyone out there who really thinks this song means western Virginia. The subject is obviously intentionally the state, even if the writers and Denver had never been to the state. They are referring to the state. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 00:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Onetwothreeip: Five times now [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] you have removed "about West Virginia" from the lede of the article in a slow burning edit war that began April 16 and continues to this day. Three editors (and shortly four, after I revert your non-consensus change) have reverted your addition. You are edit warring. It is quite clear you do not have consensus for this change. If you revert again, I will be making a request to have you partially blocked from making further edits to this article. Edit warring is not a means to an end. No matter how right you think you are, your actions are now the problem. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 17:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC) (and just to head off any potential controversy; while I am an administrator, I am not making any statement here in an administrator's capacity, as I am WP:INVOLVED in regards to this article)
Glaring omission in wikipedia entries for this and the John Denver main page. Omitted is the song and Denver's connection to China: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/05/what-john-denver-means-some-asian-immigrants/618784/ Theaternearyou ( talk) 19:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Following on from the previous discussion, and abandoning anything about whether the song is about western Virginia, there are two issues regarding the subject of the song. 1) Whether the song is about the state of West Virginia, and 2) where the subject of the song is described in the article.
To the first point, we simply do not have reliable sources stating that the song is about West Virginia. In fact, we have reliable sources stating that the song is not about any particular place, and is inspired by places in multiple American states including but not limited to West Virginia. This could be disproven by simply providing reliable sources stating that the subject of the song is West Virginia, but these do not appear to exist, and are contrary to the sources that exist in the article. There are, of course, sources that confirm the state of West Virginia is named in the song and there should be no controversy in reporting this in the article.
To the second point, we should not be describing the song in the first sentence of the article, and probably not the first paragraph either. Doing so would be contrary to our normal practices for music articles, regardless of the accuracy of the information. No matter what the song is about, we shouldn't be saying this in the first sentence.
I will wait for and invite discussion on these two points to have clarity on the article. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 23:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Try to not overload the first sentence by describing everything notable about the subject [of the article]. Instead use the first sentence to introduce the topic, and then spread the relevant information out over the entire lead.Also precedent, I looked at other song articles and none that I saw included a summary of the song's synopsis.
The very source you claim proves it's not about West Virginia can be read to prove it is about West Virginia.Which source is this?
...your assertion that it has nothing to do with West Virginia.This is a lie, I have never made this assertion, and I reject that assertion.
I've reverted your cn addition as the later source proves it's about West Virginia.I presume you are referring to the same source that you allude to earlier?
Please, by all means, STOP this senseless changing and changing and changing and changing and changing and changing of the article.This is the only time I have added a citation needed tag to the article, which you have reverted. I have honoured my earlier commitment not to change any claims in the article relating to the subject of the song (i.e. whether the song is about West Virginia). Onetwothreeip ( talk) 22:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
I read the opinions on this, but as I actually own farm in Shenandoah in western Virginia with west Virginia a short hike away trust me not some fool who would piss himself at the sight of a black bear and song of a coyote. The blue ridge mountains begin in front royal, virginia. That is where the road along the ridge (skyline drive) begins. Possibly some foothills extend into Maryland or west Virginia, but those aren't close to being mountains. The Shenandoah river is in Virginia. I kayak it regularly. Lots of small mouth bass. It flows north to the Potomac river. If it spends any time in west Virginia is irrelevant. I'm not about to Google map it as some city folk did. I know the river. The writer said inspiration came from trip to gaithersburg, Maryland. Nice place to commute to DC from. You can see foothills from there while speeding along an interstate nowadays. Anyway, matters not at all. Let west Virginia have one insignificant thing to cherish. 204.111.9.2 ( talk) 02:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
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there was no " disruptive editing" just going to Youtube John Denver Take Me Home Country Roads has 400 million views the most of any of his music! This very article says it has 1.5 million digital downloads! so you can leave out my revision and try to "protect" it from facts but just know your article is less accurate because of it. Next time ask for the source instead of declaring vandalism. DAEDRICH THE MAN TUCKER ( talk) 19:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change “Regional anthem” to “State anthem” 67.242.156.125 ( talk) 00:26, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Forty-eight of the fifty U.S. states have one or more state songs, a type of regional anthem. TG HL ↗ 🍁 16:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)