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kcrc is
primary source. Please dig out old newspaper (also please provide Google ngram to prove "Tai Po Market flag station" is way common than "Tai Po Market railway station") that refer the railway station COMNONLY as "Tai Po Market Flag Station". Also, there is a
WP:VP consensus regulated the name of railway and metro stations in wikipedia.
Matthew hk (
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09:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, lede is the place to summarize the whole article. There is no place in the article to add the content regarding the railway station as flag station yet.
Matthew hk (
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09:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
From the story in the Post mentioned above, "The community of Tai Po Market had to be content with a temporary flag station until 1913 when the permanent station was erected on the site where the museum now stands. This station contributed much to the social and economic development of the district." The HKU paper, on the other hand, says "The British Section³ of KCR was completed and opened to the public on 1 October 1910, with 5 stations established along the main line from Kowloon, namely Yau Ma Tei, Sha Tin, Tai Po, Tai Po Market flag station and Fanling." If you can read Chinese characters you may have come across that name in Chinese-/Cantonese-language sources too.
203.145.94.111 (
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09:39, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Please don't post nonsense.
The link does not prove the COMMON NAME of the station in ENGLISH (unless it is a RS written in English) . You can probably use the wording "a
flag station which later became a
permanent station" wording, but not "Tai Po Market flag station". Also, i don't repeat the point for the lede.
Matthew hk (
talk)
10:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
This is English wikipedia.....There may be a flag station in Tai Po in 1910s. But there is ZERO English citation to tell the actual name of the station at that time. Note that
flag station can have other name so that you need to provide the citation for the name at that time or provide alternative citation for the British English spelling of such 旗站.
Matthew hk (
talk)
10:15, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
On a side note I am glad that you know "this is English Wikipedia" (presumably as opposed to Chinglish). So please try to express your thoughts in English, and make sure you are able to comprehend what other people put forward in English.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:25, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
You can't just assume the flag station and the permeant station (now the Railway Museum) are location at the same place. Please provide reliable source. And don't Easter egg piping. I already said you can mention there is a
flag station in Tai Po Market, and then there is a
permanent station in lede in this article, but not east egg piping (as well as made up the name) as [[Old Tai Po Market station|Tai Po Market flag station]]. Actually, we don't even know when "Tai Wo Shi" was called Tai Po Market and the original Tai Po Market became Tai Po Old Market. Yes, probably the flag station never location in Tai Po Old Market, but can be 100/200/500 metre away from the site that the railway museum is located.
Matthew hk (
talk)
11:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I guess it is getting too difficult for a dialogue as such to go on. I could hardly comprehend what you are trying to talk about. Let's take a break so that you may reorganise what you've said.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
11:25, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
My two cents is that you'd better organise your thoughts before you comment. And make sure you are able to understand what other people have put forward.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
No where hongkongmaper.org is a
WP:RS. It is a company that reprint map , and the blog article is re-published an article by someone called 凱文, but is 凱文 a journalist or academic? Please read
WP:RS before posting anything you found in the web.
Matthew hk (
talk)
10:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
If you read between the lines you'd have been able to tell this wasn't meant to be an RS but something shared for the sake of facilitating discussion. The RSs were submitted above.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:30, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
My very honest suggestion is that if you got much difficulty do seek necessary assistance. Effective communication is important here and in the case of the discussion here it's a real matter of concern. No offence.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Asia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Asia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject AsiaTemplate:WikiProject AsiaAsia articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hong Kong, a project to coordinate efforts in improving all
Hong Kong-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other Hong Kong-related articles, you are invited to
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kcrc is
primary source. Please dig out old newspaper (also please provide Google ngram to prove "Tai Po Market flag station" is way common than "Tai Po Market railway station") that refer the railway station COMNONLY as "Tai Po Market Flag Station". Also, there is a
WP:VP consensus regulated the name of railway and metro stations in wikipedia.
Matthew hk (
talk)
09:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, lede is the place to summarize the whole article. There is no place in the article to add the content regarding the railway station as flag station yet.
Matthew hk (
talk)
09:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
From the story in the Post mentioned above, "The community of Tai Po Market had to be content with a temporary flag station until 1913 when the permanent station was erected on the site where the museum now stands. This station contributed much to the social and economic development of the district." The HKU paper, on the other hand, says "The British Section³ of KCR was completed and opened to the public on 1 October 1910, with 5 stations established along the main line from Kowloon, namely Yau Ma Tei, Sha Tin, Tai Po, Tai Po Market flag station and Fanling." If you can read Chinese characters you may have come across that name in Chinese-/Cantonese-language sources too.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
09:39, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Please don't post nonsense.
The link does not prove the COMMON NAME of the station in ENGLISH (unless it is a RS written in English) . You can probably use the wording "a
flag station which later became a
permanent station" wording, but not "Tai Po Market flag station". Also, i don't repeat the point for the lede.
Matthew hk (
talk)
10:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
This is English wikipedia.....There may be a flag station in Tai Po in 1910s. But there is ZERO English citation to tell the actual name of the station at that time. Note that
flag station can have other name so that you need to provide the citation for the name at that time or provide alternative citation for the British English spelling of such 旗站.
Matthew hk (
talk)
10:15, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
On a side note I am glad that you know "this is English Wikipedia" (presumably as opposed to Chinglish). So please try to express your thoughts in English, and make sure you are able to comprehend what other people put forward in English.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:25, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
You can't just assume the flag station and the permeant station (now the Railway Museum) are location at the same place. Please provide reliable source. And don't Easter egg piping. I already said you can mention there is a
flag station in Tai Po Market, and then there is a
permanent station in lede in this article, but not east egg piping (as well as made up the name) as [[Old Tai Po Market station|Tai Po Market flag station]]. Actually, we don't even know when "Tai Wo Shi" was called Tai Po Market and the original Tai Po Market became Tai Po Old Market. Yes, probably the flag station never location in Tai Po Old Market, but can be 100/200/500 metre away from the site that the railway museum is located.
Matthew hk (
talk)
11:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I guess it is getting too difficult for a dialogue as such to go on. I could hardly comprehend what you are trying to talk about. Let's take a break so that you may reorganise what you've said.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
11:25, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
My two cents is that you'd better organise your thoughts before you comment. And make sure you are able to understand what other people have put forward.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
No where hongkongmaper.org is a
WP:RS. It is a company that reprint map , and the blog article is re-published an article by someone called 凱文, but is 凱文 a journalist or academic? Please read
WP:RS before posting anything you found in the web.
Matthew hk (
talk)
10:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
If you read between the lines you'd have been able to tell this wasn't meant to be an RS but something shared for the sake of facilitating discussion. The RSs were submitted above.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:30, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
My very honest suggestion is that if you got much difficulty do seek necessary assistance. Effective communication is important here and in the case of the discussion here it's a real matter of concern. No offence.
203.145.94.111 (
talk)
10:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply