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From second paragraph of Tahitians#Pre-European period and customs: "...three major classes: ariʻi, raʻatira and manahune. Aliʻi were relatively few in number while manahune constituted..." Why does the first sentence introduce "ariʻi" but the second sentence mentions, "aliʻi"? Is this merely a typo, or is it significant? Newportm ( talk) 15:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Regarding Biruitorul 's concerns, first GSE has an article on Tahitians (Russian: Таитяне), it does not imply that the subject has something to do with the USSR. Secondly, one of the most significant indigenous Polynesian peoples of Oceania is a direct translation of the opening sentence один из самых значительных аборигенных полинезийских народов Океании. Cheers Brand t 23:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Are we sure that this is an authentic picture? It looks like it's a posed picture of people who may or may not be native Tahitians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.42.159.173 ( talk) 02:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't even know why you (UnQuébécois) are arguing this. I was the first person who added Malik Joyeux, Pomare IV, Omai and Pouvanaa a Oopa onto this article. I had my doubts about Malik Joyeux's actual ethnicity when I was choosing four famous "(Native) Tahitians", and since I can't find any indication that he was one and his name (Joyeux) sounds French, so I removed him and replaced him. It doesn't matter that he was on Tahiti. This is definitely an article about the "indigenous peoples of Tahiti and thirteen other Society Islands" as the first sentence of the article suggest not an article about residents or descendants of settlers or Paul Gauguin would be on here.-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 05:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Actually, the article seems unsure of its own scope. The hatnote says it's "about indigenous people of Tahiti," and the three people currently pictured seem to fit that description. But sure enough, the first sentence says Tahitians are "indigenous peoples... as well as the modern populations." Compare to the dab page Hawaiians, which distinguishes between residents and natives, with only the latter having a specific article. This one certainly seems to refer more to the ethnic group, but clarity would be welcome. As for the case of Joyeux, it seems clear to me that he was Tahitian in the sense of a resident, but we don't have any evidence that he was of indigenous descent, so his inclusion hinges on the scope of the article. Personally, I think it makes sense to make the article exclusively about the ethnic group, noting in a sentence that "Tahitians" is also a simple demonym. Also see the dab page Tahitian, which resembles the Hawaiians one. -- BDD ( talk) 20:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Are Tahitians predominantly Congregationalists or Calvinists?-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 03:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
From second paragraph of Tahitians#Pre-European period and customs: "...three major classes: ariʻi, raʻatira and manahune. Aliʻi were relatively few in number while manahune constituted..." Why does the first sentence introduce "ariʻi" but the second sentence mentions, "aliʻi"? Is this merely a typo, or is it significant? Newportm ( talk) 15:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Regarding Biruitorul 's concerns, first GSE has an article on Tahitians (Russian: Таитяне), it does not imply that the subject has something to do with the USSR. Secondly, one of the most significant indigenous Polynesian peoples of Oceania is a direct translation of the opening sentence один из самых значительных аборигенных полинезийских народов Океании. Cheers Brand t 23:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Are we sure that this is an authentic picture? It looks like it's a posed picture of people who may or may not be native Tahitians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.42.159.173 ( talk) 02:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't even know why you (UnQuébécois) are arguing this. I was the first person who added Malik Joyeux, Pomare IV, Omai and Pouvanaa a Oopa onto this article. I had my doubts about Malik Joyeux's actual ethnicity when I was choosing four famous "(Native) Tahitians", and since I can't find any indication that he was one and his name (Joyeux) sounds French, so I removed him and replaced him. It doesn't matter that he was on Tahiti. This is definitely an article about the "indigenous peoples of Tahiti and thirteen other Society Islands" as the first sentence of the article suggest not an article about residents or descendants of settlers or Paul Gauguin would be on here.-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 05:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Actually, the article seems unsure of its own scope. The hatnote says it's "about indigenous people of Tahiti," and the three people currently pictured seem to fit that description. But sure enough, the first sentence says Tahitians are "indigenous peoples... as well as the modern populations." Compare to the dab page Hawaiians, which distinguishes between residents and natives, with only the latter having a specific article. This one certainly seems to refer more to the ethnic group, but clarity would be welcome. As for the case of Joyeux, it seems clear to me that he was Tahitian in the sense of a resident, but we don't have any evidence that he was of indigenous descent, so his inclusion hinges on the scope of the article. Personally, I think it makes sense to make the article exclusively about the ethnic group, noting in a sentence that "Tahitians" is also a simple demonym. Also see the dab page Tahitian, which resembles the Hawaiians one. -- BDD ( talk) 20:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Are Tahitians predominantly Congregationalists or Calvinists?-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 03:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)