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just removed this from article. interesting but needs cites; the article is about living person and contains person information. unless it has citations personal info cannot be included.: Artlondon 23:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
It should be added that although the projects by Kozyra and Disinformation were made in the same locations as "Gellért" and "Sound Mirrors" they deal with them in very different ways from. Dean grew up on the Kent coast and was fascinated by the Sound Mirrors at Dungeness from an early age. Her film of the Gellért bathers was prompted by visits to the baths for arthritis treatments, at its core this is a work about healing - a recurring theme in Dean's practice.
I agree that the references to Dean's relationship with these other artists' work is over-stated in the article as it stands. I will re-write and fill out some of the text and include the issue of these 'controversies' in a footnote. If anyone could help with embedded links that would be great. Ed Krcma 19:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
here is the section that was 'lost' under some recent huge additions. This - well sourced - material should be preserved after recent additions. Artlondon 20:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Tacita Dean has been accused of producing very similar works to earlier pieces by other artists. For instance, in a letter to Art Monthly (October 1998) curator and art historian Anda Rottenberg noted similarities between Katarzyna Kozyra's film "Bath House" and Dean's later work "Gellert" (named after the Gellért Baths) - both works depict women chatting in a bath house in Budapest. Similarly "Blackout" (1997) by artist group Disinformation and Tacita Dean's "Sound Mirrors" (1999) both feature monolithic concrete sound mirrors found at various locations on the UK coast (and the correct chronology of these projects is documented in the essay "Listening for the Enemy" by Brian Dillon in Cabinet magazine 12 pp. 68-71 New York 2003). It should be added that although the projects by Kozyra and Disinformation were made in the same locations as "Gellért" and "Sound Mirrors" they deal with them in very different ways. Dean grew up on the Kent coast and was fascinated by the Sound Mirrors at Dungeness from an early age. Her film of the Gellért bathers was prompted by visits to the baths for arthritis treatments, at its core this is a work about healing - a recurring theme in Dean's practice.
Yes sorry - whoever is upset with this 'blitzing' - I'm not yet fully familiar with the editing system and am trying to add refs as I go and will continue over the next couple of days. Apologies for the slicing out - you're too quick for me in responding. Ed Krcma 21:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I hold the copyright for the website http://www.stammtischforum.org/synopsis_Dean. The text from that site comes from a talk that I gave and I am happy for it to be used on this Wikipedia site (I will send a message from the Stammtisch email to Wikimedia to this effect). Ed Krcma 21:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Please engage in community discussion before removing notices to maintain NPoV. Artlondon 18:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Would anybody object to me removing the copyright notice at the top of this discussion page? I own the copyright to the Stammtisch text mentioned, and I have given the appropriate permissions to Wikipedia. Also, given that there have been several edits to the article since the style and tone notices went up, should we consider removing them as well? The article includes citations and I feel its tone is now more appropriate to the Wikipedia context (although perhaps not all issues of quality have been resolved). What does anyone else think? Ed Krcma 19:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
just made huge deletion - BLP - rm controversy, rm essay and rm text pasted in weeks a month ago that remains neither wikified nor changed tonally - simply an essay available else where, link added to essay. also, tags removed from article, this page tidied.
Artlondon 00:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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just removed this from article. interesting but needs cites; the article is about living person and contains person information. unless it has citations personal info cannot be included.: Artlondon 23:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
It should be added that although the projects by Kozyra and Disinformation were made in the same locations as "Gellért" and "Sound Mirrors" they deal with them in very different ways from. Dean grew up on the Kent coast and was fascinated by the Sound Mirrors at Dungeness from an early age. Her film of the Gellért bathers was prompted by visits to the baths for arthritis treatments, at its core this is a work about healing - a recurring theme in Dean's practice.
I agree that the references to Dean's relationship with these other artists' work is over-stated in the article as it stands. I will re-write and fill out some of the text and include the issue of these 'controversies' in a footnote. If anyone could help with embedded links that would be great. Ed Krcma 19:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
here is the section that was 'lost' under some recent huge additions. This - well sourced - material should be preserved after recent additions. Artlondon 20:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Tacita Dean has been accused of producing very similar works to earlier pieces by other artists. For instance, in a letter to Art Monthly (October 1998) curator and art historian Anda Rottenberg noted similarities between Katarzyna Kozyra's film "Bath House" and Dean's later work "Gellert" (named after the Gellért Baths) - both works depict women chatting in a bath house in Budapest. Similarly "Blackout" (1997) by artist group Disinformation and Tacita Dean's "Sound Mirrors" (1999) both feature monolithic concrete sound mirrors found at various locations on the UK coast (and the correct chronology of these projects is documented in the essay "Listening for the Enemy" by Brian Dillon in Cabinet magazine 12 pp. 68-71 New York 2003). It should be added that although the projects by Kozyra and Disinformation were made in the same locations as "Gellért" and "Sound Mirrors" they deal with them in very different ways. Dean grew up on the Kent coast and was fascinated by the Sound Mirrors at Dungeness from an early age. Her film of the Gellért bathers was prompted by visits to the baths for arthritis treatments, at its core this is a work about healing - a recurring theme in Dean's practice.
Yes sorry - whoever is upset with this 'blitzing' - I'm not yet fully familiar with the editing system and am trying to add refs as I go and will continue over the next couple of days. Apologies for the slicing out - you're too quick for me in responding. Ed Krcma 21:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I hold the copyright for the website http://www.stammtischforum.org/synopsis_Dean. The text from that site comes from a talk that I gave and I am happy for it to be used on this Wikipedia site (I will send a message from the Stammtisch email to Wikimedia to this effect). Ed Krcma 21:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Please engage in community discussion before removing notices to maintain NPoV. Artlondon 18:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Would anybody object to me removing the copyright notice at the top of this discussion page? I own the copyright to the Stammtisch text mentioned, and I have given the appropriate permissions to Wikipedia. Also, given that there have been several edits to the article since the style and tone notices went up, should we consider removing them as well? The article includes citations and I feel its tone is now more appropriate to the Wikipedia context (although perhaps not all issues of quality have been resolved). What does anyone else think? Ed Krcma 19:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
just made huge deletion - BLP - rm controversy, rm essay and rm text pasted in weeks a month ago that remains neither wikified nor changed tonally - simply an essay available else where, link added to essay. also, tags removed from article, this page tidied.
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