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Please note that the volatility of a substance is not directly related to whether that substance may be used contaminate water supplies. Effective contamination of water with nerve agents is primarily dependent on the solubility and hydrolytic stability of those agents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.140.109 ( talk) 06:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
How long will Tabun keep keep its toxicity? How long does it take to degrade? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.244.205 ( talk) 23:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
are the drawn projection and the 3d ball/stick model the same chemical? they look like enantimorphs to me.
"Although lethal doses absorbed though the may result in death in 1 to 2 minutes, death may be delayed for 1 to 2 hours."
Doesn't make sense.
"Faintly fruity odor"-who gave it the sniff test?
A: The product's discoverers initially didn't know what they had produced, and because of the substance's relatively low toxicity, they were able to smell small quantities of the agent (though doing so resulted in unpleasant sweating, tremors, mild fever, and radically constricted "pinpoint" pupils that left the unfortunate scientists temporarily blinded for a week or two. Subsequently, the slave laborers who were to manufacture it also were routinely exposed to small quantities of the agent, and also reported the fruity scent, as well as a fishy odor at larger concentrations. ( Dranzini 01:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC))
PS: Will work on the grammar.
You forgot to ask about "tasteless liquid". I would not like to be on that panel..."here try this" 71.108.138.191 ( talk) 02:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Is this C-Class yet?
RockManQ
(talk)
23:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
== GA Review ==
Here goes nothing...
First GAN for me so be a little patent, but feel free to give constructive criticism. Not the best with grammarz so that might need the most work. Thanks to anyone who comes and reviews this! Cheers,
RockManQ
(talk) 03:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)A speedy, strategic withdrawal would be the best option probably. Cheers,
RockManQ
(talk)
23:46, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I think that some details, such as the precursors, of tabun manufacturing should be mentioned in this article. Sepp18 ( talk) 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
i think you ment to say "senses" ? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.58.74.234 ( talk) 17:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand why you are showing a synthesis route to make tabun. Won't this encourage possible experimental creation of tabun or other such analogues??? Is this a responsible position to take? I agree which stating the precusors as the attemped aquistion of such precursors could alert one to attempts to make tabun but why show the synthesis route???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Possum2009 ( talk • contribs) 08:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Source #10 appears to be a semi-dead link. Should I remove it? -- Thenewguy34 ( talk) 21:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
The sentence Tabun was the first nerve agent to be discovered by accident in January 1936 is unclear. Presumably it wasn't the first to be discovered in January 1936 (as opposed to those discovered in October 1935 or April 1938). However was it the first to be discovered by accident (as opposed to those which had been discovered on purpose) or should this read Tabun was the first nerve agent to be discovered. This was by accident, in January 1936? And given that it's a completely synthetic product I'm not sure whether "discovered" is a less appropriate term than "invented", in any case. 213.122.147.41 ( talk) 22:28, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
– Tabun was made a disambiguation page in 2005 but it only contains partial title matches and a recent J-pop song, so the nerve agent is the clear primary topic. I moved the disambiguation page to Tabun (disambiguation) but I can't move the nerve agent because of the 2005 move. Galagora ( talk) 20:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 01:13, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Needs a lot of wordsmithing... BeingObjective ( talk) 17:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
LD50 of 0.01 mg/kg is unrealistically low. This is 1 mg/human. There is no way to describe the smell and taste at this toxicity. Russian wiki states 5000mg/human, which is unrealistically high (cyanide used in synthesis kills human at a dose of 300 mg). Most of the nerve agents kill at 30 mg/human. This was the first agent in the family. So, I would guesstimate 60 mg/human or 0.6 mg/kg. 89.113.155.116 ( talk) 13:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
In the Synthesis section—which is sourced, but to an impossibly difficult source to verify (in German, dating to the DDR)—the different tabun-solvent technical product mixtures are referred to in a manner different than in the History section. Hence, the latter section was tagged, along with the confusing sentences in each. 73.73.49.62 ( talk) 20:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please note that the volatility of a substance is not directly related to whether that substance may be used contaminate water supplies. Effective contamination of water with nerve agents is primarily dependent on the solubility and hydrolytic stability of those agents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.140.109 ( talk) 06:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
How long will Tabun keep keep its toxicity? How long does it take to degrade? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.244.205 ( talk) 23:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
are the drawn projection and the 3d ball/stick model the same chemical? they look like enantimorphs to me.
"Although lethal doses absorbed though the may result in death in 1 to 2 minutes, death may be delayed for 1 to 2 hours."
Doesn't make sense.
"Faintly fruity odor"-who gave it the sniff test?
A: The product's discoverers initially didn't know what they had produced, and because of the substance's relatively low toxicity, they were able to smell small quantities of the agent (though doing so resulted in unpleasant sweating, tremors, mild fever, and radically constricted "pinpoint" pupils that left the unfortunate scientists temporarily blinded for a week or two. Subsequently, the slave laborers who were to manufacture it also were routinely exposed to small quantities of the agent, and also reported the fruity scent, as well as a fishy odor at larger concentrations. ( Dranzini 01:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC))
PS: Will work on the grammar.
You forgot to ask about "tasteless liquid". I would not like to be on that panel..."here try this" 71.108.138.191 ( talk) 02:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Is this C-Class yet?
RockManQ
(talk)
23:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
== GA Review ==
Here goes nothing...
First GAN for me so be a little patent, but feel free to give constructive criticism. Not the best with grammarz so that might need the most work. Thanks to anyone who comes and reviews this! Cheers,
RockManQ
(talk) 03:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)A speedy, strategic withdrawal would be the best option probably. Cheers,
RockManQ
(talk)
23:46, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I think that some details, such as the precursors, of tabun manufacturing should be mentioned in this article. Sepp18 ( talk) 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
i think you ment to say "senses" ? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.58.74.234 ( talk) 17:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand why you are showing a synthesis route to make tabun. Won't this encourage possible experimental creation of tabun or other such analogues??? Is this a responsible position to take? I agree which stating the precusors as the attemped aquistion of such precursors could alert one to attempts to make tabun but why show the synthesis route???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Possum2009 ( talk • contribs) 08:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Source #10 appears to be a semi-dead link. Should I remove it? -- Thenewguy34 ( talk) 21:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
The sentence Tabun was the first nerve agent to be discovered by accident in January 1936 is unclear. Presumably it wasn't the first to be discovered in January 1936 (as opposed to those discovered in October 1935 or April 1938). However was it the first to be discovered by accident (as opposed to those which had been discovered on purpose) or should this read Tabun was the first nerve agent to be discovered. This was by accident, in January 1936? And given that it's a completely synthetic product I'm not sure whether "discovered" is a less appropriate term than "invented", in any case. 213.122.147.41 ( talk) 22:28, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
– Tabun was made a disambiguation page in 2005 but it only contains partial title matches and a recent J-pop song, so the nerve agent is the clear primary topic. I moved the disambiguation page to Tabun (disambiguation) but I can't move the nerve agent because of the 2005 move. Galagora ( talk) 20:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 01:13, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Needs a lot of wordsmithing... BeingObjective ( talk) 17:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
LD50 of 0.01 mg/kg is unrealistically low. This is 1 mg/human. There is no way to describe the smell and taste at this toxicity. Russian wiki states 5000mg/human, which is unrealistically high (cyanide used in synthesis kills human at a dose of 300 mg). Most of the nerve agents kill at 30 mg/human. This was the first agent in the family. So, I would guesstimate 60 mg/human or 0.6 mg/kg. 89.113.155.116 ( talk) 13:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
In the Synthesis section—which is sourced, but to an impossibly difficult source to verify (in German, dating to the DDR)—the different tabun-solvent technical product mixtures are referred to in a manner different than in the History section. Hence, the latter section was tagged, along with the confusing sentences in each. 73.73.49.62 ( talk) 20:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)