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On 01 Nov 2004, this article was cited in a SecurityFocus article on phishing. Securiger 06:50, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
When did Netcaptor add its tabbed browsing? IBrowse added it in 1999, and I'm not certain if this is before or after Netcaptor.
ANS. NetCaptor had tabbed browsing in January 1998 in its first release. At that point it was called SimulBrowse.
though, if too many documents are open, the tabs can be rather difficult to manage or label. This is in the "Advantages" section. Shouldn't it be moved to the "Disadvantages" section of the article????
there are no disadvantages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.45.247.110 ( talk) 12:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems the reference link to Aza Dotzler's tabbed browser history was added, removed, then added again (by User:Minghong). According to the very description given in *this wikipedia article*, Aza is incorrect in his categorisation of the history time-line (he also ignores Galeon - anyone know when Galeon added tabbed browsing, IIRC it was 2000/2001?). The definition on this page would clearly classify Opera 4 as being a tabbed browser, yet he uses a weird MDI/SDI hybrid classification which is not at all relevant. The comments on that page are a rather pathetic flame-fest, all noise and no signal. So I really wonder what the point of linking to that incorrect article is?
Why do people think Safari support tabbed browsing?
Safari, ("the newest release") doesn't even have tabbed browsing, just to clarify. - (unsigned)
The article positions TDI relative to other document models such as MDI and SDI. Both of these are Windows-centric terms and aren't always well-defined on other platforms. This could be easily pointed out, but instead more clarity could be provided in describing what differentiates a TDI from a-window-with-tabs. To me, the key point of differentiation lies in the definition of a document. Before attempting to define this, I'd like to get some consensus as to whether this is a useful path to take. -- AlastairR 08:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
It should be pointed out that:
Does anyone disagree with this? -- AlastairR 08:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Maybe one example per application type (browser, IM client, etc) might be illuminating. But, do we really want to see a screenshot of each contributer's favourite tabbed browser? What's the point? -- AlastairR 13:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
The claims about the history of tabbed browsing interface in browsers reported in the article and at the this blog from mozilla differ. Does any body know which one is correct?-- Anupamsr| talk | contribs 08:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Referring to the statement "*Firefox arguably popularized tabbed browsing, when was tabbed browsing added to Firefox??*", Firefox was built on top of Mozilla, via Firebird and Phoenix, and has had tabbed browsing since its inception. As to whether or not Firefox "popularized" tabbed browsing, I would lean against saying this. You would need to compare numbers of firefox users against numbers of users of Opera, Safari, and Mozilla. It is certainly true that Firefox popularized the "non-IE" web browser, and pretty much every web browser had tabbed browsing except for IE when Firefox came out. User:seanahan:seanahan 4:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be beneficial for the example screenshots to show the applications in their default state. I'm not sure about some of the others, but I know the example screenshot for Firefox is highly customized. Not only does it look unprofessional to not use the default appearance in an instance such as this, one could argue that the clutter detracts from the focus on the tabbed browsing feature.
"TDI windows must always be maximized inside their parent window" That doesn't sound right to me.
Is there any reason why programs are forced to use one of the paradigms? Either MDI, SDI, or TDI. MDI is just SDI with another window around it, and TDI is just MDI with each document maximized. It seems like newer Linux-ish window managers would just abstract the concept of daughter windows (and regular windows) and allow the user to select whichever interface they wanted for a particular app, or even for the whole window manager. Has anyone done this? — Omegatron 20:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned that Wikipedia uses a tab-like interface. Look at the top of this article. There are tabs labeled "article", "discussion," "edit this page," and "history." I'm not putting it in myself because, looking through the article, I couldn't really find a good place to put this information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.89.167 ( talk) 18:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC).
I definitely agree with the first poster. There are tabs at the top of each and every Wikipedia page, and tabs as GUIs are not exclusively for documents. Countless applications use tabs that have nothing to do with documents, so limiting this page to TDI is a big error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.14.198.60 ( talk) 05:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The edit removing the reference to InternetWorks tabbed browser stated that there was no source confirming this. There is an article: Windows, Unix, OS/2 and the Mosaic War published in 1995 that shows a screenshot of the InternetWorks browser. It looks like the screenshot is either early 1995 or 1994. This is a different screenshot than the one mentioned above. The article is dated and the screenshot shows a link on the IBM pane titled "IBM at Internet World '94". Is more evidence needed? -- McDScott 00:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Added an additional note at the section about dealing with multiple tabs. Besides scrolling/multiple rows, zooming is also a viable method. I added a link to the page about FishEyeTabs, which is a free extension for Firefox for zooming tabs.
Referring to the section:
One example of an application that allows either TDI or MDI browsing is Opera. Using TDI by default, this application also supports full MDI and can also run as an SDI application.
Isn’t it more correct to mention that Opera supports both TDI and MDI? You have all of the advantages of both. If you want to tile/cascade/stretch/reposition a tab/window you can. Those are MDI features. Yet the tabs/windows never disappear. I know the article says so in effect, but it glosses over the fact. I think the language could indicate that Opera is unusual in this regard. Using Opera as “an example” alludes to the idea that there are many TDI interfaces that are also MDI. But I think Opera is quite unique, isn't it? I think the language could be more clear. The first sentence alludes to it being an either/or distinction, then the second sentence says that it fully supports MDI when it is in a TDI mode. Pretty much contradicts the first sentence.
see discussion on Talk:Graphical user interface#Merge of Tabbed document interface mabdul 0=* 02:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Is it really necessary to have this subsection? I think if we list this we'll run the risk of having a massive list of applications that provide a tabs feature before long. -- Heptite (T) (C) (@) 11:18, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Both articles handle the same topic. there are no real differences. we should merge them! mabdul 15:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Tabs in modern GUIs were introduced by IBM Common User Access.[citation needed] They became widely used to make option-laden dialog boxes easier to understand and navigate. They were designed to group similar or related options into one tab pane. Later, some applications based their main document switching mechanism on tabs, using a tabbed document interface.
Done
mabdul
12:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I personally implemented a tabbed panel as part of the Policy Workbench application of the Alvey DHSS Large Demonstrator System in 1986. This ran on the Xerox 1108 'Dandelion' workstation, which was an early GUI machine. As far as I know my implementation was the first tabbed panel on a bitmapped GUI display; it had all the features Adobe claimed and was thus clear prior art on all grounds to the Adobe patent. At the time of the dispute with Macromedia I wrote to both sides outlining the prior art, but received no reply from either.
I'd agree that the 'invention' was trivial. Simon Brooke 07:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Would anyone else agree that Firefox popularized tabs in browsers? -- Fez2005 04:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Tabs were first used in OS/2 and Windows in dialog boxes. Their use as document switching controls came much later. The way the article is written gives the reverse impression. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 ( talk) 16:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
So I'd suggest making Tabbed browsing a separate article. It's a very prevalent concept / technology. Many other languages have a separate article on it as well.
For example here's the
German one and the
Spanish one.
"
Browser tab" then also would redirect to that page.
It would document that concept's definition, history, adoption, impact, usage (who, how, why uses it), utility, consequential possibilities, how different browsers handle it, alternatives, difficulties, research in improvement, possible psychological effects, technical limitations and the results of various studies (see below).
Some resources (to open in a new tab):
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10,
11
--
Fixuture (
talk)
18:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Features of the Opera web browser has that as "dragging one tab over another allows you to create a group of tabs". -- Jerome Potts ( talk) 11:13, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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Might be worth mentioning that Microsoft is currently developing a new feature for Windows called "Sets" which appears to add a universal tab interface to GUI windows, which seams to work much the same as what you'd find in a web browser only with the contents being an arbitrary program. The fact that the company wants to make tabbed browsing a core function to Windows at an OS level seams pretty notable. Though currently it's only available in recent Insider Builds, and since they describe it as an "experiment" we'll have to wait and see how much further they'll go with the concept: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/03/07/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17618-skip-ahead/#7PvOWIKjmZCqaeEt.97
82.15.131.175 ( talk) 17:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
"The name TDI implies similarity to the Microsoft Windows standards for multiple document interfaces (MDI) and single document interfaces (SDI), but TDI does not form part of the Microsoft Windows User Interface Guidelines". Why is this information, being specific to one commercial product worth mentioning in the first paragraph? There also does not seem any major historical or general relevanceto the topic, so I suggest to move this sentence to a section in the text further down. Narwaro ( talk) 06:48, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Moved the paragraph to the according section Narwaro ( talk) 07:08, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Apart from the history section, this article seems quite heavy on the situation with Microsoft products. This encyclopedia is not a Microsoft documentation. The length of this particular section should reflect its relevance in contrast to the article length. There are many examples of tabbed user interfaces in many environments and systems, both current and historical, so adding new sections depicting different implementations of this design philosophy would be very beneficial to the quality of the article in my opinion.
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On 01 Nov 2004, this article was cited in a SecurityFocus article on phishing. Securiger 06:50, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
When did Netcaptor add its tabbed browsing? IBrowse added it in 1999, and I'm not certain if this is before or after Netcaptor.
ANS. NetCaptor had tabbed browsing in January 1998 in its first release. At that point it was called SimulBrowse.
though, if too many documents are open, the tabs can be rather difficult to manage or label. This is in the "Advantages" section. Shouldn't it be moved to the "Disadvantages" section of the article????
there are no disadvantages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.45.247.110 ( talk) 12:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems the reference link to Aza Dotzler's tabbed browser history was added, removed, then added again (by User:Minghong). According to the very description given in *this wikipedia article*, Aza is incorrect in his categorisation of the history time-line (he also ignores Galeon - anyone know when Galeon added tabbed browsing, IIRC it was 2000/2001?). The definition on this page would clearly classify Opera 4 as being a tabbed browser, yet he uses a weird MDI/SDI hybrid classification which is not at all relevant. The comments on that page are a rather pathetic flame-fest, all noise and no signal. So I really wonder what the point of linking to that incorrect article is?
Why do people think Safari support tabbed browsing?
Safari, ("the newest release") doesn't even have tabbed browsing, just to clarify. - (unsigned)
The article positions TDI relative to other document models such as MDI and SDI. Both of these are Windows-centric terms and aren't always well-defined on other platforms. This could be easily pointed out, but instead more clarity could be provided in describing what differentiates a TDI from a-window-with-tabs. To me, the key point of differentiation lies in the definition of a document. Before attempting to define this, I'd like to get some consensus as to whether this is a useful path to take. -- AlastairR 08:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
It should be pointed out that:
Does anyone disagree with this? -- AlastairR 08:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Maybe one example per application type (browser, IM client, etc) might be illuminating. But, do we really want to see a screenshot of each contributer's favourite tabbed browser? What's the point? -- AlastairR 13:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
The claims about the history of tabbed browsing interface in browsers reported in the article and at the this blog from mozilla differ. Does any body know which one is correct?-- Anupamsr| talk | contribs 08:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Referring to the statement "*Firefox arguably popularized tabbed browsing, when was tabbed browsing added to Firefox??*", Firefox was built on top of Mozilla, via Firebird and Phoenix, and has had tabbed browsing since its inception. As to whether or not Firefox "popularized" tabbed browsing, I would lean against saying this. You would need to compare numbers of firefox users against numbers of users of Opera, Safari, and Mozilla. It is certainly true that Firefox popularized the "non-IE" web browser, and pretty much every web browser had tabbed browsing except for IE when Firefox came out. User:seanahan:seanahan 4:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be beneficial for the example screenshots to show the applications in their default state. I'm not sure about some of the others, but I know the example screenshot for Firefox is highly customized. Not only does it look unprofessional to not use the default appearance in an instance such as this, one could argue that the clutter detracts from the focus on the tabbed browsing feature.
"TDI windows must always be maximized inside their parent window" That doesn't sound right to me.
Is there any reason why programs are forced to use one of the paradigms? Either MDI, SDI, or TDI. MDI is just SDI with another window around it, and TDI is just MDI with each document maximized. It seems like newer Linux-ish window managers would just abstract the concept of daughter windows (and regular windows) and allow the user to select whichever interface they wanted for a particular app, or even for the whole window manager. Has anyone done this? — Omegatron 20:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned that Wikipedia uses a tab-like interface. Look at the top of this article. There are tabs labeled "article", "discussion," "edit this page," and "history." I'm not putting it in myself because, looking through the article, I couldn't really find a good place to put this information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.89.167 ( talk) 18:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC).
I definitely agree with the first poster. There are tabs at the top of each and every Wikipedia page, and tabs as GUIs are not exclusively for documents. Countless applications use tabs that have nothing to do with documents, so limiting this page to TDI is a big error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.14.198.60 ( talk) 05:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The edit removing the reference to InternetWorks tabbed browser stated that there was no source confirming this. There is an article: Windows, Unix, OS/2 and the Mosaic War published in 1995 that shows a screenshot of the InternetWorks browser. It looks like the screenshot is either early 1995 or 1994. This is a different screenshot than the one mentioned above. The article is dated and the screenshot shows a link on the IBM pane titled "IBM at Internet World '94". Is more evidence needed? -- McDScott 00:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Added an additional note at the section about dealing with multiple tabs. Besides scrolling/multiple rows, zooming is also a viable method. I added a link to the page about FishEyeTabs, which is a free extension for Firefox for zooming tabs.
Referring to the section:
One example of an application that allows either TDI or MDI browsing is Opera. Using TDI by default, this application also supports full MDI and can also run as an SDI application.
Isn’t it more correct to mention that Opera supports both TDI and MDI? You have all of the advantages of both. If you want to tile/cascade/stretch/reposition a tab/window you can. Those are MDI features. Yet the tabs/windows never disappear. I know the article says so in effect, but it glosses over the fact. I think the language could indicate that Opera is unusual in this regard. Using Opera as “an example” alludes to the idea that there are many TDI interfaces that are also MDI. But I think Opera is quite unique, isn't it? I think the language could be more clear. The first sentence alludes to it being an either/or distinction, then the second sentence says that it fully supports MDI when it is in a TDI mode. Pretty much contradicts the first sentence.
see discussion on Talk:Graphical user interface#Merge of Tabbed document interface mabdul 0=* 02:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Is it really necessary to have this subsection? I think if we list this we'll run the risk of having a massive list of applications that provide a tabs feature before long. -- Heptite (T) (C) (@) 11:18, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Both articles handle the same topic. there are no real differences. we should merge them! mabdul 15:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Tabs in modern GUIs were introduced by IBM Common User Access.[citation needed] They became widely used to make option-laden dialog boxes easier to understand and navigate. They were designed to group similar or related options into one tab pane. Later, some applications based their main document switching mechanism on tabs, using a tabbed document interface.
Done
mabdul
12:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I personally implemented a tabbed panel as part of the Policy Workbench application of the Alvey DHSS Large Demonstrator System in 1986. This ran on the Xerox 1108 'Dandelion' workstation, which was an early GUI machine. As far as I know my implementation was the first tabbed panel on a bitmapped GUI display; it had all the features Adobe claimed and was thus clear prior art on all grounds to the Adobe patent. At the time of the dispute with Macromedia I wrote to both sides outlining the prior art, but received no reply from either.
I'd agree that the 'invention' was trivial. Simon Brooke 07:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Would anyone else agree that Firefox popularized tabs in browsers? -- Fez2005 04:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Tabs were first used in OS/2 and Windows in dialog boxes. Their use as document switching controls came much later. The way the article is written gives the reverse impression. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 ( talk) 16:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
So I'd suggest making Tabbed browsing a separate article. It's a very prevalent concept / technology. Many other languages have a separate article on it as well.
For example here's the
German one and the
Spanish one.
"
Browser tab" then also would redirect to that page.
It would document that concept's definition, history, adoption, impact, usage (who, how, why uses it), utility, consequential possibilities, how different browsers handle it, alternatives, difficulties, research in improvement, possible psychological effects, technical limitations and the results of various studies (see below).
Some resources (to open in a new tab):
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10,
11
--
Fixuture (
talk)
18:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Features of the Opera web browser has that as "dragging one tab over another allows you to create a group of tabs". -- Jerome Potts ( talk) 11:13, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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Might be worth mentioning that Microsoft is currently developing a new feature for Windows called "Sets" which appears to add a universal tab interface to GUI windows, which seams to work much the same as what you'd find in a web browser only with the contents being an arbitrary program. The fact that the company wants to make tabbed browsing a core function to Windows at an OS level seams pretty notable. Though currently it's only available in recent Insider Builds, and since they describe it as an "experiment" we'll have to wait and see how much further they'll go with the concept: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/03/07/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17618-skip-ahead/#7PvOWIKjmZCqaeEt.97
82.15.131.175 ( talk) 17:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
"The name TDI implies similarity to the Microsoft Windows standards for multiple document interfaces (MDI) and single document interfaces (SDI), but TDI does not form part of the Microsoft Windows User Interface Guidelines". Why is this information, being specific to one commercial product worth mentioning in the first paragraph? There also does not seem any major historical or general relevanceto the topic, so I suggest to move this sentence to a section in the text further down. Narwaro ( talk) 06:48, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Moved the paragraph to the according section Narwaro ( talk) 07:08, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Apart from the history section, this article seems quite heavy on the situation with Microsoft products. This encyclopedia is not a Microsoft documentation. The length of this particular section should reflect its relevance in contrast to the article length. There are many examples of tabbed user interfaces in many environments and systems, both current and historical, so adding new sections depicting different implementations of this design philosophy would be very beneficial to the quality of the article in my opinion.