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I'm not sure if Tokarev should really redirect to TT-33. I went to the former looking for the SVT38. Boris B 18:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I added a bit of information concerning the Chinese commercial variant, the Norinco Type 213, for instance:
I'm a new user, so criticism is welcome. - TSDreadnought 07:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The pistol is actually called the TT, the model 1933 or TT-33 is one of its variants. I think the title should reflect that, because the base pistol is the TT model 1930 or TT-30. Having two separate article would be illogical but I propose we rename the article TT (pistol) since TT is already a vast disambiguation page. Koalorka ( talk) 21:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
The design section says that "The Soviet engineers also added several other features..." etc. What does the word "added" exactly mean here? "Added" as compared to what? TT was an original design, not a clone of some other design (as far as original designs go in that area), so the word "added" appears to be out of place here. It sounds like a leftover of some previous version of the article, which would probably incorrectly (but typically) suggest that TT was a clone of some American model. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.182.56.5 ( talk • contribs)
The stated muzzle velocity and effective range are both wrong. The TT has an average muzzle velocity beyond 500m/s, and that combined with low recoil and high accuracy of its 7,62x25mm round results in effective range of around 100m, not 50, like of most other pistols. In practice, I have fired from TT many times and I managed to hit target at range even beyond 100m without problem, so this info needs change. And generally, I do not understand on which theory here on Wikipedia most pistols have the same effective range (50m), regardless of their caliber? As an example, how can the M1911's 11,43x23mm (.45 ACP) heavy caliber round have exactly the same effective range like FN-57's 5,7x28mm, which has far greater muzzle velocity and accuracy and also far lower recoil? That is pure nonsense, the same stands for TT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.36.234 ( talk) 09:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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I'm not sure if Tokarev should really redirect to TT-33. I went to the former looking for the SVT38. Boris B 18:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I added a bit of information concerning the Chinese commercial variant, the Norinco Type 213, for instance:
I'm a new user, so criticism is welcome. - TSDreadnought 07:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The pistol is actually called the TT, the model 1933 or TT-33 is one of its variants. I think the title should reflect that, because the base pistol is the TT model 1930 or TT-30. Having two separate article would be illogical but I propose we rename the article TT (pistol) since TT is already a vast disambiguation page. Koalorka ( talk) 21:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
The design section says that "The Soviet engineers also added several other features..." etc. What does the word "added" exactly mean here? "Added" as compared to what? TT was an original design, not a clone of some other design (as far as original designs go in that area), so the word "added" appears to be out of place here. It sounds like a leftover of some previous version of the article, which would probably incorrectly (but typically) suggest that TT was a clone of some American model. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.182.56.5 ( talk • contribs)
The stated muzzle velocity and effective range are both wrong. The TT has an average muzzle velocity beyond 500m/s, and that combined with low recoil and high accuracy of its 7,62x25mm round results in effective range of around 100m, not 50, like of most other pistols. In practice, I have fired from TT many times and I managed to hit target at range even beyond 100m without problem, so this info needs change. And generally, I do not understand on which theory here on Wikipedia most pistols have the same effective range (50m), regardless of their caliber? As an example, how can the M1911's 11,43x23mm (.45 ACP) heavy caliber round have exactly the same effective range like FN-57's 5,7x28mm, which has far greater muzzle velocity and accuracy and also far lower recoil? That is pure nonsense, the same stands for TT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.36.234 ( talk) 09:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)