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The Article SAYS, that TISM retired in 2004, as Hitler-Barassi said that the band was too tired to continue their wild pranks. The Years Active said 1984-present, but if the article says that they retired in 2004, it should read Years Active: 1984-2004. I fixed that for now, but if there is proof that they're still active, post a reason why it should read 1984-present, instead of just changing it back.
Theres a video clip 'message from TISM' going around which seems to be a promo for the white albun. It lists a bunch of dates for which they were supposed to tour on (was also on the website). I know the Byron Bay, Gold Coast and Brisbane gigs didnt happen. Does anyone know if the Melbourne (Hifi bar) and Sydney (Metro) gigs happened? From Jul - Aug 2006. Theinnerexits 12:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Should there be a "Quotes" section for things which they've said during interviews?
Oh yes. Either here, or on Wikiquote. Regards, Ben Aveling 08:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed all the members now have links to their own pages. Do they need their own pages, or should the links be returned to plain text? Gohst 07:29, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, nobody seems to care and I can see no reason why the members of TISM should have their own pages (because they're anonymous!) so I'm reverting the links to plain text. Gohst 07:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
The line in the article "though it should be noted there have only ever been seven members of the band; clearly, names have been switched" seems to have no solid evedence. I don't think it's true, I think band members left for whatever reason they had. Family, career, boredom, etc. and a new member with a new stage name was introduced. If there is any proof of this being true, I'll leave it there but for now I'm taking it away. For example, in the FasterLouder interview at the bottom of the main atricle, Humphrey admits Leak Van Vlalen was "all over Hot Dogma" and he "had to go". And on the fold out cover for www.tism.wanker.com, Leak does not appear. He has been replaced by (I beleive) Tokin Blackman and a casual listen will show the guitar parts to be quite different. Even though a guitarist can definately change his style I think it more likely indicates a change of musician in this case. So in closing, I think the line in the TISM article quoted above is pure poppycock and should be removed. Anyone got any objections? Gohst 07:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
I deleted this information from the article in an edit, if someone feels it can go back in somewhere, feel free to do so. Jon St. Peenis is still missing from the list though.
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Some of the names which TISM members have chosen to name themselves are often quite complex, with some of them linking commonly known items or people to others of a lesser known stature to create a unique and humorous term. Some of their names and what they mean have been:
- Gohst 06:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
While it is not documented in this article, the real names of most of the members of TISM are known. When TISM played on John Safran's Music Jamboree, five names appear for TISM in the credits of that episode. It is fair to say that these are their real names.
It is known that Ron Hitler Barrassi has written a book under his real name (which appears in the credits of Music Jamboree). He has also appeared unmasked on SBS television talking about how an SBS documentary about the US civil war inspired his book.
It is also known that another member of TISM (whose name also appears in the credits of Music Jamboree) writes for the magazines Inside Sport and Australian Traveller.
Provided that sufficient evidence is supplied, does anyone else think that this information should be included in the article?
- HumphreyB 11:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
John Safran's Music Jamboree is available on DVD [4], the show was broadcast on national television in Australia, the credits on the show list the composers of "(He'll Never Be An) Old Man River" as listed above. [5] Since this is a published source, it's not original research. These names can no longer be verified at the website of APRA [6] who now credit all TISM songs to "TISM". APRA does, however, list Damien Cowell as one of the composers for TISM spin-off ROOT! [7]-- Design ( talk) 13:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
While the previous version of the section was too detailed, the properly sourced information was appropriate for inclusion in the article. Here's some more info that should probably go in: [8] [9] -- James ( talk) 11:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The image which was used at the top of the article was deleted by the people who are in charge of images on wikipedia. Basically if anyone can find a free image of TISM that can go at the top of the article, please do so as soon as possible. Thanks. Gohst 07:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
That's my blog. I'm stupidly happy to be linked to on Wiki, but I'm afraid that's a circular link; I got the quote off Wikipedia, meaning it has no value whatsoever as an independent cite. Sorry, guys? - Talen Lee, of the Lee Chimera —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.193.160.161 ( talk) 01:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
To help with your review, I suggest you put the names of the web pages (bbc.co.uk, or whatever) outside the link, and put Retrieved 15 October 2007 (or whatever) to show the link is not old or broken. Like this:
[http.TISM.com.linklinkliknliknk TISM go happy hunting blah,blah] TISM.com - Retrieved 15 October 2007
I will do the first couple to show you how it goes. (I looked at the videos of TISM on Youtube after reading your article, and I think they're bloody great, BTW. Thanks. :) -- andreasegde 14:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
P.S., I have just checked one or two web pages and two have broken links, or are not available anymore. Check 'em at will... -- andreasegde 14:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
GA's cannot have {{ trivia}}. Either integrate the trivia into prose, or if there really is a good reason for a trivia section (which is highly unlikely), remove the template. -- Rschen7754 ( T C) 04:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm currently reviewing the article, just leaving myself (mainly) a note here so I don't forget. When this is passed, please be sure to add it to Portal:Music of Australia, or message me and I will. Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 00:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Yay, an Aussie band! We need more aussie GAs - Portal:Music of Australia is crying for some non-Powderfinger content (m'bad :P). Anyways, leave a note on my talk page when you've dealt with the issues below, and I'll go buy some TISM music because they sound awesome! Here goes... — Dihydrogen Monoxide 09:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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If their names are known then they are not anonymous, right? So the term "anonymous alternative rock band" is not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.247.88 ( talk) 14:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Due to the fact that TISM's influences aside from The Residents are not known, I just thought I'd bring to the table a thought that I had; their usage of the smiley face icon on the bestoff collection as well as on a previous version of their site, coupled with their recurring use of a Roland TB-303 style bassline generator (most prominently featured on www.tism.wanker.com) may suggest an Acid House influence? Their lyrics certainly indicate a knowledge of electronic music ("If you want house you go to Chicago, Brussels for hardcore, Detroit for techno...").
Damn, the article has lost a lot of content since passing GA. What's happened? giggy ( :O) 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
The article I Might Be A Cunt, But I'm Not A Fucking Cunt says that the music video parodied the sex tape of an Australian celebrity not the Pamela Anderson sex tape.
Why was this page deleted and why can I not locate a history or reason why it was deleted? Bento180 ( talk) 00:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Here are the last few versions of the article (click ahead for them) which shows that it was merged with TISM (though no content made its way here) due to an uncontested merge proposal, which cited a lack of sources. - Gohst ( talk) 21:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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The Article SAYS, that TISM retired in 2004, as Hitler-Barassi said that the band was too tired to continue their wild pranks. The Years Active said 1984-present, but if the article says that they retired in 2004, it should read Years Active: 1984-2004. I fixed that for now, but if there is proof that they're still active, post a reason why it should read 1984-present, instead of just changing it back.
Theres a video clip 'message from TISM' going around which seems to be a promo for the white albun. It lists a bunch of dates for which they were supposed to tour on (was also on the website). I know the Byron Bay, Gold Coast and Brisbane gigs didnt happen. Does anyone know if the Melbourne (Hifi bar) and Sydney (Metro) gigs happened? From Jul - Aug 2006. Theinnerexits 12:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Should there be a "Quotes" section for things which they've said during interviews?
Oh yes. Either here, or on Wikiquote. Regards, Ben Aveling 08:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed all the members now have links to their own pages. Do they need their own pages, or should the links be returned to plain text? Gohst 07:29, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, nobody seems to care and I can see no reason why the members of TISM should have their own pages (because they're anonymous!) so I'm reverting the links to plain text. Gohst 07:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
The line in the article "though it should be noted there have only ever been seven members of the band; clearly, names have been switched" seems to have no solid evedence. I don't think it's true, I think band members left for whatever reason they had. Family, career, boredom, etc. and a new member with a new stage name was introduced. If there is any proof of this being true, I'll leave it there but for now I'm taking it away. For example, in the FasterLouder interview at the bottom of the main atricle, Humphrey admits Leak Van Vlalen was "all over Hot Dogma" and he "had to go". And on the fold out cover for www.tism.wanker.com, Leak does not appear. He has been replaced by (I beleive) Tokin Blackman and a casual listen will show the guitar parts to be quite different. Even though a guitarist can definately change his style I think it more likely indicates a change of musician in this case. So in closing, I think the line in the TISM article quoted above is pure poppycock and should be removed. Anyone got any objections? Gohst 07:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
I deleted this information from the article in an edit, if someone feels it can go back in somewhere, feel free to do so. Jon St. Peenis is still missing from the list though.
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Some of the names which TISM members have chosen to name themselves are often quite complex, with some of them linking commonly known items or people to others of a lesser known stature to create a unique and humorous term. Some of their names and what they mean have been:
- Gohst 06:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
While it is not documented in this article, the real names of most of the members of TISM are known. When TISM played on John Safran's Music Jamboree, five names appear for TISM in the credits of that episode. It is fair to say that these are their real names.
It is known that Ron Hitler Barrassi has written a book under his real name (which appears in the credits of Music Jamboree). He has also appeared unmasked on SBS television talking about how an SBS documentary about the US civil war inspired his book.
It is also known that another member of TISM (whose name also appears in the credits of Music Jamboree) writes for the magazines Inside Sport and Australian Traveller.
Provided that sufficient evidence is supplied, does anyone else think that this information should be included in the article?
- HumphreyB 11:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
John Safran's Music Jamboree is available on DVD [4], the show was broadcast on national television in Australia, the credits on the show list the composers of "(He'll Never Be An) Old Man River" as listed above. [5] Since this is a published source, it's not original research. These names can no longer be verified at the website of APRA [6] who now credit all TISM songs to "TISM". APRA does, however, list Damien Cowell as one of the composers for TISM spin-off ROOT! [7]-- Design ( talk) 13:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
While the previous version of the section was too detailed, the properly sourced information was appropriate for inclusion in the article. Here's some more info that should probably go in: [8] [9] -- James ( talk) 11:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The image which was used at the top of the article was deleted by the people who are in charge of images on wikipedia. Basically if anyone can find a free image of TISM that can go at the top of the article, please do so as soon as possible. Thanks. Gohst 07:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
That's my blog. I'm stupidly happy to be linked to on Wiki, but I'm afraid that's a circular link; I got the quote off Wikipedia, meaning it has no value whatsoever as an independent cite. Sorry, guys? - Talen Lee, of the Lee Chimera —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.193.160.161 ( talk) 01:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
To help with your review, I suggest you put the names of the web pages (bbc.co.uk, or whatever) outside the link, and put Retrieved 15 October 2007 (or whatever) to show the link is not old or broken. Like this:
[http.TISM.com.linklinkliknliknk TISM go happy hunting blah,blah] TISM.com - Retrieved 15 October 2007
I will do the first couple to show you how it goes. (I looked at the videos of TISM on Youtube after reading your article, and I think they're bloody great, BTW. Thanks. :) -- andreasegde 14:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
P.S., I have just checked one or two web pages and two have broken links, or are not available anymore. Check 'em at will... -- andreasegde 14:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
GA's cannot have {{ trivia}}. Either integrate the trivia into prose, or if there really is a good reason for a trivia section (which is highly unlikely), remove the template. -- Rschen7754 ( T C) 04:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm currently reviewing the article, just leaving myself (mainly) a note here so I don't forget. When this is passed, please be sure to add it to Portal:Music of Australia, or message me and I will. Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 00:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Yay, an Aussie band! We need more aussie GAs - Portal:Music of Australia is crying for some non-Powderfinger content (m'bad :P). Anyways, leave a note on my talk page when you've dealt with the issues below, and I'll go buy some TISM music because they sound awesome! Here goes... — Dihydrogen Monoxide 09:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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If their names are known then they are not anonymous, right? So the term "anonymous alternative rock band" is not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.247.88 ( talk) 14:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Due to the fact that TISM's influences aside from The Residents are not known, I just thought I'd bring to the table a thought that I had; their usage of the smiley face icon on the bestoff collection as well as on a previous version of their site, coupled with their recurring use of a Roland TB-303 style bassline generator (most prominently featured on www.tism.wanker.com) may suggest an Acid House influence? Their lyrics certainly indicate a knowledge of electronic music ("If you want house you go to Chicago, Brussels for hardcore, Detroit for techno...").
Damn, the article has lost a lot of content since passing GA. What's happened? giggy ( :O) 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
The article I Might Be A Cunt, But I'm Not A Fucking Cunt says that the music video parodied the sex tape of an Australian celebrity not the Pamela Anderson sex tape.
Why was this page deleted and why can I not locate a history or reason why it was deleted? Bento180 ( talk) 00:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Here are the last few versions of the article (click ahead for them) which shows that it was merged with TISM (though no content made its way here) due to an uncontested merge proposal, which cited a lack of sources. - Gohst ( talk) 21:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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Cyberbot II has detected links on TISM which have been added to the blacklist, either globally or locally. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed or are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. The addition will be logged at one of these locations: local or global If you believe the specific link should be exempt from the blacklist, you may request that it is white-listed. Alternatively, you may request that the link is removed from or altered on the blacklist locally or globally. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. Please do not remove the tag until the issue is resolved. You may set the invisible parameter to "true" whilst requests to white-list are being processed. Should you require any help with this process, please ask at the help desk.
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From your friendly hard working bot.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 17:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Cyberbot II has detected links on TISM which have been added to the blacklist, either globally or locally. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed or are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. The addition will be logged at one of these locations: local or global If you believe the specific link should be exempt from the blacklist, you may request that it is white-listed. Alternatively, you may request that the link is removed from or altered on the blacklist locally or globally. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. Please do not remove the tag until the issue is resolved. You may set the invisible parameter to "true" whilst requests to white-list are being processed. Should you require any help with this process, please ask at the help desk.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
\bchange\.org\b
on the local blacklistIf you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 00:20, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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After reviewing the article, I am concerned that it no longer meets the GA criteria. My concerns are outlined below:
Is anyone interested in fixing up this article? Z1720 ( talk) 19:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This article contains numerous uncited sentences and paragraphs, large block quotes that can be summarised instead, and too many one-sentence paragraphs that do not seem to follow NPOV. Z1720 ( talk) 04:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)