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"As the wolf is a frequent metaphor for the all-devouring grave, and with the well-known Eddaic adage "Cattle die, kinsmen die ..." in mind, the meaning of this by-name becomes clear."
What is this all about? This 'well known' phrase is a bit obscure for a random guy from Africa. Please redo this part of it in a somewhat accessable format. ManicParroT 21:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know which hand he lost? - FZ 22:00, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The bracteate illustration in the article shows Týr's left hand being bitten. Is the drawing reversed? Centrepull ( talk) 20:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
I removed this for lack of reference (nothing was to be found on the web. is it in the Edda?) dab (T) 16:36, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There is a literary reference in "CASCA: The Barbarian, Volume 5" by Barry Sadler.
"Casca lunged forward, grabbed Hrolthar’s shoulder, and swung him around, making a sweep with his short sword. It sliced through Hrolthar’s right arm at the wrist, dropping the hand still holding the axe to the ground. Hrolthar screamed and before Casca could cover his eyes, Hrolthar used the fountain of Tyr to blind him."
... my apolgies if this not cited correctly. I did not have time to look up the protocol.
Consequently, the Tyr rune was carved onto spearheads and onto the hilts of swords, so that Tyr would aid the owner in battle.
The fact is, the evidence for the inscription of the Tyr rune on weapons is, apart from a single literary reference, virtually nonexistent. There are only a couple of known weapons with anyhting resembling a Tyr rune on them, and in one instance the mark is very small and might just be coincidental markings.
Neverthless, the literary evidence is quite plain and clear, stating to carve the Tyr rune on the hilt of one's blade and call twice on Tyr for victory.
The reference at the end to Tyr being a god in "Bioware's Neverwinter Nights" is wrong. The game had no direct link to the Tyr in Norse mythology, but rather Tyr has been a god in the Forgotten Realms game world for many years, and that was drawn from Norse mythology. I'm not going to change it, but someone else should.
There are two mentions of Tyr being identified with Mars, which begs for an explicit discussion in the article. Is it merely that they're both war gods? Or is Tyr descended in some way from Mars? (I wouldn't think so.)
I would add that the picture is pretty, but it's not nearly contemporaneous; though its style looks to me like it was meant to look like it was from the 1100s, it's from the 1700s and is hardly an authentic source when considering any Tyr/Mars connection. Tempshill 19:52, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Tyr and his Germanic cognates were glossed as Mars by the early Romans, and then later on by Germanic converts to Catholicism. Later on, as a result of Odin becoming the chief Teutonic god of organized warfare, Mars also began to be used as a gloss for Odin. Originally it was used to gloss Tyr, ie. Teiwaz, as a result of his association with warfare and Odin's greater similarity to Mercury. It is also possible that, even as Mars was seen as the progenitor of Rome, so was Tyr seen as the progenitor of Germanic culture. This would make him the same as Tacitus' Tuisto. Also, in TAcitus' Histories a representative of the TEncteri is said to hail Tyr as the greatest of the gods.
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I was under the impression that Tyr corresponded to Zeus, not Aries/Mars. This would seem to be supported by the variations of forms of his name including "Z" and the reference to Tyr having previously been the chief god of the pantheon, as was Zeus. Kro666 12:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I've read about a statue of Tyr wearing a horned helmet that was unearthed in Zealand, Denmark in 200 BC. I've also seen photographs of this statue. [3] Unfortunately, with a google image search I'm having trouble finding a decent photo of the original statue but plenty of apparent reproductions from your usual New Age merchants. [4] [5] [6] However, I can't seem to find too much information regarding it outside of where it was found and the supposed date. If it's to be trusted, I think a photograph of the statue would be quite appropriate for this article. :bloodofox: 04:33, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
In persian Tyr or tir also means Mars. It's also the 4th month of persian calendar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zigourat ( talk • contribs) 08:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I have recently found what I believe is the origin of the statue. The Grevensvænge figurines, which have their own wikipedia article, show two twin deities holding axes that look identical to the supposed Tyr statue, albeit with axes and both hands in tact. However there were several statues and not all are shown in the article, and most of them are now missing. So the statue does seem to have historical significance, but I am not sure if it was connected to Tyr (since they are depicted as twins, it is more likely it was dedicated to the Alcis or some other divine twin archetype.
Use of the symbol as a racist emblem is documented here. I wasn't sure where to cite so please feel free to transplant the reference where appropriate. Angrynight 01:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Ahh... Okay, I bow to your superior knowledge of how this knowledge is organized. Angrynight 04:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
The characterisation of Germanic intentions as genocidal and the pretensions to actually know the intent behind different types of bog sacrifices are going to require citation. I am somewhat familiar with the migration era legends, and to say definitively that they represent this or that about bronze age and early iron age cultic practises is a matter of interpretation, not established fact. -- Fire Star 17:32, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
According to Tacitus, in his Germania, the "sacrifice" of the spoils of war was done in honour of Mars (Tiw) and Mercury (Woden).
The actual bog sacrifices of the Late Stone Age are of unblemished wepaons or goods, all laid out in very thoughful and neat rows; as befits a sacral offering.
According to both historical literary sources and archeological evidence, these "sacrifices" of plunder were burnt, hacked, bent, and otherwsie trashed before being cast into the bog; with none of thoughtfulness of other similar offerings. Thus, they are immediately and quite poignantly set apart from actual sacrifices.
Now, accroding to Tacitus, those guilty of shameful capital crimes had a hurdle placed about their necks and they were sunk in bogs. Archeology has revealed that a number of "bog people" in both Celtic and Germanic lands were also ritually tortured prior to submersion. This parallels that Eddaic treatment of Loki.
Clearly, the so-called "sacrifices" of the spoils of war paralells the treatment of shaemful capital offenders; whereas all they share in common with the true sacrifces is the bog itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.115.211 ( talk) 15:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
"En stundum vakti hann upp dauða menn or jörðu, eða settist undir hanga; fyrir því var hann kallaðr drauga dróttinn eða hanga dróttinn." [8] |
Sometimes even he called the dead out of the earth, or set himself beside the burial-mounds; whence he was called the ghost-sovereign, and lord of the mounds. [9] |
Hmm... The English translation above doesn't fit with the Old Norse, it must be a translation of a text which had "hauga" and "hauga dróttinn". Anyway, hanga" is the genitive plural of the word 'hangi', "a body hanging on a gallows". [10] Haukur 16:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that there is a linguistic similarity between the two above. It might offend Modern mores suggesting that Celtic God and a Germanic one may have the same basis, but they both have common attributes. the "Tis" at the end of the former and the "Ti" are surely cognate? Brendandh 00:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
The article was using all three forms of this name interchangeably, and confusingly. I cleaned it up by leaving the link to" Fenrisulfr", but using "Fenris" everywhere else, since that's the name I'm most familiar with. Of course, I don't know jack about any of this, so if someone who does wants to go in after me and change it, please make sure you're doing it in a way that doesn't reintroduce the confusion. 71.212.19.193 16:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC) A Guy with a Head Cold
Can we get an IPA pronunciation? This is my favorite Norse god and I have no idea how to say his name... That's sad. ·: RedAugust 09:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for giving me the source that I needed - you are welcome; next time try to do your own homework before complaining. As it stands, I agree with Haukur that the English pronunciation, based on MW, appears to be [tʰiːɹ] ( "tîr"). More relevantly, the ON pronunciation is [tyːr] "tür". [tʰiːɹ] just happens to be the de-facto pronunciation of English speakers trying to pronounce the Old Norse. Correct pronunciation is not discouraged. In fact, the The Columbia Encyclopedia recommends pronouncing the English Tiw as "tee-oo", and the Old Norse as Old Norse. -- dab (𒁳) 10:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
what I don't get is, we take the pains to discuss this in detail, and then it is changed without comment [11], as a point of "formatting". What gives? -- dab (𒁳) 09:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Why is there a loudspeaker icon next to the pronunciation when no sound file is provided? MuhQ ( talk) 10:48, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
The God is pronounced - Toe yir and not tear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.254.232 ( talk) 21:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Father of Tyr is Odin, mother is giantess Hrod. Hrod is wife of Hymir. That's why Tyr once was called son of Hymir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.86.230.114 ( talk) 08:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Tacitus has mistook Tyr-Tiwaz for Tuisto. First man -Mannaz is sooner his son,then of unidentified Tuisto.11:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edelward ( talk • contribs)
You are not the first to come up with this association, see Tuisto#Etymology. This article could also expand on the hypothesis as long as it is put in proper context. -- dab (𒁳) 10:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a famous Kipling poem about Tyr sacrificing an eye (rather than an arm) to kill a wolf. [12] It has been set to music a few times. Should it be mentioned in the article? 69.228.171.150 ( talk) 03:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
In lithuanian father is "tėvas". pronunciation "teiwas" and "tėvas" is very similar. "father" ("tėvas") and "god"("dievas") concept (in ancient Lithuania) are associated. the Tiwaz rune is very similar to the mark of the god in old baltic religion Maybe it's just a coincidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freelogin ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I've been searching for ancient representations of Tyr in the archaeological record. All I have managed to find on the internet is this commercial site which claims their statue is a replica of one found in Zealand (Denmark) and dated to 200 BCE : http://www.sacredsource.com/Norse-Tyr-statue-7/productinfo/NTY/
I can't find anything else about this statue except commercial websites selling this replica. It would be nice to have more info on this and perhaps a picture of the real thing. Does anyone have info on this? Munin75 ( talk) 16:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I am a bit surprised by the Norwegian name for Týr being given as Ty. Since Týr is hardly a common subject of everyday conversation, I accept the possibility that this may have changed without me noticing, but I am Norwegian and I have never heard the version Ty. In books, in conversations and in primary school classes on Norse mythology I have only ever come across Tyr. On Norwegian Wikipedia the article on the god himself is titled "Ty", but in the article on Norse mythology he is listed as Tyr, which makes it all the more confusing. Can anyone enlighten me on this point? Has there simply been a spelling change I have missed, or what? Maitreya ( talk) 07:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Sir Godspeed ( talk) 01:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm removing the link under the See Also Section to the comic "Ink Pen." The link would be more appropriate in a separate section titled along the lines of "Týr in Popular Culture" or the like Sxoa ( talk) 11:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
It has a source (of sorts!!) but is far too unscientific. Tyrol couldn't possibly be from Tyr-Ull, as neither of that is High German or Italian! The Mummy ( talk) 19:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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Very good start. Are the external links the sources? Just clarify sources. Goldenrowley 03:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Just wanted to note that Tyr is included in Category:Sky and weather gods but the article doesn't seem to touch on either concept.
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i've been trying to look for a source showing Tyr (or his proto-Germanic cognate) of being the once-chief deity of the Germanic pantheons, but I can't find any. Can anyone please help with that? RoninMacbeth ( talk) 00:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Does anyone know what Týr is holding in his right hand in the Trollhättan bracteate illustration?
-- Invokingvajras ( talk) 17:06, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Should this page explain how the deity is related to chi? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.235.234 ( talk) 08:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
From Týr:
the deity is the namesake of Tuesday ('Týr's day') in Germanic languages, including English'
From Thor:
Thor is frequently referred to in place names, the day of the week Thursday bears his name (modern English Thursday derives from Old English Þūnresdæg, 'Þunor's day')
I agree, I don't think Tyr is the name sake of Tuesday, because Wednesday already has a place for it. If you look at the Latin (using French) and Germanic (using English), there must be a 1 to 1 correspondence of the names:
Lundi = Monday (Luna and Moon) Mardi = Tuesday (Mars and Tyr) Mercredi = Wednesday (Mercury and Wodan) Jeudi = Thursday (Jupiter and Thor) Vendredi = Friday (Venus and Frigga/Freyja) Samedi = Saturday (Saturn) Dimanche = Sunday (Day of the Lord and Sun)
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"As the wolf is a frequent metaphor for the all-devouring grave, and with the well-known Eddaic adage "Cattle die, kinsmen die ..." in mind, the meaning of this by-name becomes clear."
What is this all about? This 'well known' phrase is a bit obscure for a random guy from Africa. Please redo this part of it in a somewhat accessable format. ManicParroT 21:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know which hand he lost? - FZ 22:00, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The bracteate illustration in the article shows Týr's left hand being bitten. Is the drawing reversed? Centrepull ( talk) 20:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
I removed this for lack of reference (nothing was to be found on the web. is it in the Edda?) dab (T) 16:36, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There is a literary reference in "CASCA: The Barbarian, Volume 5" by Barry Sadler.
"Casca lunged forward, grabbed Hrolthar’s shoulder, and swung him around, making a sweep with his short sword. It sliced through Hrolthar’s right arm at the wrist, dropping the hand still holding the axe to the ground. Hrolthar screamed and before Casca could cover his eyes, Hrolthar used the fountain of Tyr to blind him."
... my apolgies if this not cited correctly. I did not have time to look up the protocol.
Consequently, the Tyr rune was carved onto spearheads and onto the hilts of swords, so that Tyr would aid the owner in battle.
The fact is, the evidence for the inscription of the Tyr rune on weapons is, apart from a single literary reference, virtually nonexistent. There are only a couple of known weapons with anyhting resembling a Tyr rune on them, and in one instance the mark is very small and might just be coincidental markings.
Neverthless, the literary evidence is quite plain and clear, stating to carve the Tyr rune on the hilt of one's blade and call twice on Tyr for victory.
The reference at the end to Tyr being a god in "Bioware's Neverwinter Nights" is wrong. The game had no direct link to the Tyr in Norse mythology, but rather Tyr has been a god in the Forgotten Realms game world for many years, and that was drawn from Norse mythology. I'm not going to change it, but someone else should.
There are two mentions of Tyr being identified with Mars, which begs for an explicit discussion in the article. Is it merely that they're both war gods? Or is Tyr descended in some way from Mars? (I wouldn't think so.)
I would add that the picture is pretty, but it's not nearly contemporaneous; though its style looks to me like it was meant to look like it was from the 1100s, it's from the 1700s and is hardly an authentic source when considering any Tyr/Mars connection. Tempshill 19:52, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Tyr and his Germanic cognates were glossed as Mars by the early Romans, and then later on by Germanic converts to Catholicism. Later on, as a result of Odin becoming the chief Teutonic god of organized warfare, Mars also began to be used as a gloss for Odin. Originally it was used to gloss Tyr, ie. Teiwaz, as a result of his association with warfare and Odin's greater similarity to Mercury. It is also possible that, even as Mars was seen as the progenitor of Rome, so was Tyr seen as the progenitor of Germanic culture. This would make him the same as Tacitus' Tuisto. Also, in TAcitus' Histories a representative of the TEncteri is said to hail Tyr as the greatest of the gods.
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I was under the impression that Tyr corresponded to Zeus, not Aries/Mars. This would seem to be supported by the variations of forms of his name including "Z" and the reference to Tyr having previously been the chief god of the pantheon, as was Zeus. Kro666 12:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I've read about a statue of Tyr wearing a horned helmet that was unearthed in Zealand, Denmark in 200 BC. I've also seen photographs of this statue. [3] Unfortunately, with a google image search I'm having trouble finding a decent photo of the original statue but plenty of apparent reproductions from your usual New Age merchants. [4] [5] [6] However, I can't seem to find too much information regarding it outside of where it was found and the supposed date. If it's to be trusted, I think a photograph of the statue would be quite appropriate for this article. :bloodofox: 04:33, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
In persian Tyr or tir also means Mars. It's also the 4th month of persian calendar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zigourat ( talk • contribs) 08:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I have recently found what I believe is the origin of the statue. The Grevensvænge figurines, which have their own wikipedia article, show two twin deities holding axes that look identical to the supposed Tyr statue, albeit with axes and both hands in tact. However there were several statues and not all are shown in the article, and most of them are now missing. So the statue does seem to have historical significance, but I am not sure if it was connected to Tyr (since they are depicted as twins, it is more likely it was dedicated to the Alcis or some other divine twin archetype.
Use of the symbol as a racist emblem is documented here. I wasn't sure where to cite so please feel free to transplant the reference where appropriate. Angrynight 01:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Ahh... Okay, I bow to your superior knowledge of how this knowledge is organized. Angrynight 04:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
The characterisation of Germanic intentions as genocidal and the pretensions to actually know the intent behind different types of bog sacrifices are going to require citation. I am somewhat familiar with the migration era legends, and to say definitively that they represent this or that about bronze age and early iron age cultic practises is a matter of interpretation, not established fact. -- Fire Star 17:32, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
According to Tacitus, in his Germania, the "sacrifice" of the spoils of war was done in honour of Mars (Tiw) and Mercury (Woden).
The actual bog sacrifices of the Late Stone Age are of unblemished wepaons or goods, all laid out in very thoughful and neat rows; as befits a sacral offering.
According to both historical literary sources and archeological evidence, these "sacrifices" of plunder were burnt, hacked, bent, and otherwsie trashed before being cast into the bog; with none of thoughtfulness of other similar offerings. Thus, they are immediately and quite poignantly set apart from actual sacrifices.
Now, accroding to Tacitus, those guilty of shameful capital crimes had a hurdle placed about their necks and they were sunk in bogs. Archeology has revealed that a number of "bog people" in both Celtic and Germanic lands were also ritually tortured prior to submersion. This parallels that Eddaic treatment of Loki.
Clearly, the so-called "sacrifices" of the spoils of war paralells the treatment of shaemful capital offenders; whereas all they share in common with the true sacrifces is the bog itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.115.211 ( talk) 15:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
"En stundum vakti hann upp dauða menn or jörðu, eða settist undir hanga; fyrir því var hann kallaðr drauga dróttinn eða hanga dróttinn." [8] |
Sometimes even he called the dead out of the earth, or set himself beside the burial-mounds; whence he was called the ghost-sovereign, and lord of the mounds. [9] |
Hmm... The English translation above doesn't fit with the Old Norse, it must be a translation of a text which had "hauga" and "hauga dróttinn". Anyway, hanga" is the genitive plural of the word 'hangi', "a body hanging on a gallows". [10] Haukur 16:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that there is a linguistic similarity between the two above. It might offend Modern mores suggesting that Celtic God and a Germanic one may have the same basis, but they both have common attributes. the "Tis" at the end of the former and the "Ti" are surely cognate? Brendandh 00:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
The article was using all three forms of this name interchangeably, and confusingly. I cleaned it up by leaving the link to" Fenrisulfr", but using "Fenris" everywhere else, since that's the name I'm most familiar with. Of course, I don't know jack about any of this, so if someone who does wants to go in after me and change it, please make sure you're doing it in a way that doesn't reintroduce the confusion. 71.212.19.193 16:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC) A Guy with a Head Cold
Can we get an IPA pronunciation? This is my favorite Norse god and I have no idea how to say his name... That's sad. ·: RedAugust 09:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for giving me the source that I needed - you are welcome; next time try to do your own homework before complaining. As it stands, I agree with Haukur that the English pronunciation, based on MW, appears to be [tʰiːɹ] ( "tîr"). More relevantly, the ON pronunciation is [tyːr] "tür". [tʰiːɹ] just happens to be the de-facto pronunciation of English speakers trying to pronounce the Old Norse. Correct pronunciation is not discouraged. In fact, the The Columbia Encyclopedia recommends pronouncing the English Tiw as "tee-oo", and the Old Norse as Old Norse. -- dab (𒁳) 10:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
what I don't get is, we take the pains to discuss this in detail, and then it is changed without comment [11], as a point of "formatting". What gives? -- dab (𒁳) 09:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Why is there a loudspeaker icon next to the pronunciation when no sound file is provided? MuhQ ( talk) 10:48, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
The God is pronounced - Toe yir and not tear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.254.232 ( talk) 21:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Father of Tyr is Odin, mother is giantess Hrod. Hrod is wife of Hymir. That's why Tyr once was called son of Hymir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.86.230.114 ( talk) 08:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Tacitus has mistook Tyr-Tiwaz for Tuisto. First man -Mannaz is sooner his son,then of unidentified Tuisto.11:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edelward ( talk • contribs)
You are not the first to come up with this association, see Tuisto#Etymology. This article could also expand on the hypothesis as long as it is put in proper context. -- dab (𒁳) 10:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a famous Kipling poem about Tyr sacrificing an eye (rather than an arm) to kill a wolf. [12] It has been set to music a few times. Should it be mentioned in the article? 69.228.171.150 ( talk) 03:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
In lithuanian father is "tėvas". pronunciation "teiwas" and "tėvas" is very similar. "father" ("tėvas") and "god"("dievas") concept (in ancient Lithuania) are associated. the Tiwaz rune is very similar to the mark of the god in old baltic religion Maybe it's just a coincidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freelogin ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I've been searching for ancient representations of Tyr in the archaeological record. All I have managed to find on the internet is this commercial site which claims their statue is a replica of one found in Zealand (Denmark) and dated to 200 BCE : http://www.sacredsource.com/Norse-Tyr-statue-7/productinfo/NTY/
I can't find anything else about this statue except commercial websites selling this replica. It would be nice to have more info on this and perhaps a picture of the real thing. Does anyone have info on this? Munin75 ( talk) 16:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I am a bit surprised by the Norwegian name for Týr being given as Ty. Since Týr is hardly a common subject of everyday conversation, I accept the possibility that this may have changed without me noticing, but I am Norwegian and I have never heard the version Ty. In books, in conversations and in primary school classes on Norse mythology I have only ever come across Tyr. On Norwegian Wikipedia the article on the god himself is titled "Ty", but in the article on Norse mythology he is listed as Tyr, which makes it all the more confusing. Can anyone enlighten me on this point? Has there simply been a spelling change I have missed, or what? Maitreya ( talk) 07:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Sir Godspeed ( talk) 01:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm removing the link under the See Also Section to the comic "Ink Pen." The link would be more appropriate in a separate section titled along the lines of "Týr in Popular Culture" or the like Sxoa ( talk) 11:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
It has a source (of sorts!!) but is far too unscientific. Tyrol couldn't possibly be from Tyr-Ull, as neither of that is High German or Italian! The Mummy ( talk) 19:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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Very good start. Are the external links the sources? Just clarify sources. Goldenrowley 03:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 03:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:26, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Just wanted to note that Tyr is included in Category:Sky and weather gods but the article doesn't seem to touch on either concept.
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i've been trying to look for a source showing Tyr (or his proto-Germanic cognate) of being the once-chief deity of the Germanic pantheons, but I can't find any. Can anyone please help with that? RoninMacbeth ( talk) 00:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Does anyone know what Týr is holding in his right hand in the Trollhättan bracteate illustration?
-- Invokingvajras ( talk) 17:06, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Should this page explain how the deity is related to chi? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.235.234 ( talk) 08:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
From Týr:
the deity is the namesake of Tuesday ('Týr's day') in Germanic languages, including English'
From Thor:
Thor is frequently referred to in place names, the day of the week Thursday bears his name (modern English Thursday derives from Old English Þūnresdæg, 'Þunor's day')
I agree, I don't think Tyr is the name sake of Tuesday, because Wednesday already has a place for it. If you look at the Latin (using French) and Germanic (using English), there must be a 1 to 1 correspondence of the names:
Lundi = Monday (Luna and Moon) Mardi = Tuesday (Mars and Tyr) Mercredi = Wednesday (Mercury and Wodan) Jeudi = Thursday (Jupiter and Thor) Vendredi = Friday (Venus and Frigga/Freyja) Samedi = Saturday (Saturn) Dimanche = Sunday (Day of the Lord and Sun)
ConfusedEnoch ( talk) 21:15, 20 October 2020 (UTC)