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Is there anyone who knows enough to make this section not look so much like a warning label? 75.135.77.154 ( talk) 04:03, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I can't find a lot of internet information about it but there have been reports of these arachnoids being found as far south as Wodonga. If this phenomenon is not on the web then such valuable information faces exclusion from Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.74.131.197 ( talk) 13:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
It's rumored that Peter Jackson has a particular loathing for these spiders, and based his design for Shelob around them. Frankly, I'm not surprised.
Most of this article is about how dangerous the spider is. How about some more content about what it eats, what its enemies are, where it lays its eggs, whether it broods its young or lets them fend their own way, things like that? The Sanity Inspector ( talk) 21:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
-Because none have lived to tell the tale..
I removed http://www DOT aroundglobe DOT net/2010/08/has-one-of-worlds-deadliest-spiders.html as when I visited that page it tried to download malware on to my PC. This was the story about the funnel-web found in Gloucester.
The main entry for spiders on wikipedia under spider bites says the funnel web spider does not deliver much venom when it bites. This page says it often delivers a full dose. Is their a reason the two seem to conflict? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.133.183 ( talk) 00:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Re this edit. There is a well sourced look at this question here. It admits that experts find the world's deadliest spider hard to pin down. The Guinness Book of World Records chooses the Brazilian wandering spider, but the Black widow and Brown recluse spider are also contenders in terms of risk of serious injury. The main point with the Sydney funnel-web spider is that humans are advised not to approach it because of the likelihood of an aggressive response, but in terms of the likelihood of dying from a bite, it may not be the world's deadliest spider.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
My old house just north of Preston was infested with these horrid things. Can somebody capable please investigate this for the purpose of the page and my own comfort? Alterior motive: I found this an interesting tidbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.203.63 ( talk) 21:35, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
The media is currently in a tizzy over this incident, which it has been suggested might be the work of Sydney funnel webs. The problem is that this is pure media speculation at the moment, and Sydney funnel webs are not reliably known to live outside Australia, despite numerous claims in the past. This is a puzzle, it will be interesting to see what species of spider has caused this media coverage.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Olá eu estou curioso sobre essa especie de aracnídeo, visto que capturei um exemplar, na minha opinião idêntico ao descrito nas imagens que vi na internet teria a possibilidade de esse aracnídeo viver no Brasil também estou preocupado com isso pois como sou amante de animais e insetos acabei por libertar a aranha perto da minha vizinhança a mais ou menos 1 ano, encontrei-a em minhas dependências o que me deixou mais assustado ao pesquisar sobre ela tenho algumas características acabei por observar nessa aranha que capturei. Ela vive em buracos no chão, tocas, onde o terreno é arenoso e um pouco úmido e ataca os que entram em seus domínios com muita velocidade e ferocidade, tem as patas e o cefalotórax como uma carapaça, com uma tonalidade marrom, quelíceras e garras muito avantajadas com tonalidade mais escura, as garras sendo pretas, somente o abdome não era protegido pela carapaça e tinha tom acinzentado escuro e ela apresentava poucos pelos pelo corpo exceto no abdome onde a quantidade era levemente maior, quando não estava para atacar algo mantinha seus movimentos geralmente lentos e calmo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.76.63 ( talk) 04:08, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
The photo on the right is in the article and both the caption and the original upload [2] say that the spider is male. I'm fairly sure that this is wrong, based on the photo on the left, as the male has a much smaller body. Only the female has a large plum shaped body. This can also be seen in this BBC News story. "Big Boy" is a male, while the spider being milked in the video is female.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Sydney funnel-web spider/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Too many exclamation marks, all of them unnecessary. The article seems to be the projection of a deep desire to convince the reader of the spider's danger to humans, by using disproportionate alarm signals. I doubt the creature is as significant a danger to human beings as is alleged in the article. |
Last edited at 08:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 07:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
If it is true that other mammals are immune to the spider's venom, which ones? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.186.6.124 ( talk) 22:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
This is in the news today, and reports "Horses killed more people in Australia in recent years than all venomous animals combined." During the period 2000 to 2013, horses caused 74 deaths, while 25 humans died from bee stings. There were zero deaths from spider bites, and there haven't been any at all since an effective antivenom for funnel-web bites was introduced in 1981. I wasn't sure if this was suitable for the article, but it shows that the "world's deadliest spider" tag often attached to the Sydney funnel-web spider is now a myth.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Re this edit: Guinness World Records gives the most venomous spider title to the male Sydney funnel-web spider here, but it has also given the title to the Brazilian wandering spider. [3] It is hard to give a Median lethal dose, but this source says that 0.2 mg/kg is a lethal dose for monkeys. It isn't in dispute that people have died from funnel-web bites, but terms like most deadly and most venomous are harder to pin down.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
The best thing I can think of is this, where we reflect what the sources say. We can't ignore the fact that it has been considered the most venomous, but use sources to clarify where it stands and highlight the disputes and limitations of research. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 20:47, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
The "Symptoms" section gives no real information about symptoms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.37.99.86 ( talk) 10:47, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
The Sydney funnel-web spider is also know locally as just "funnel web", as demonstrated in the two ELs. What's the best way to mention this in the lead paragraph? Also, (nearly) all references have been recently changed to "funnel web spider" which is more cumbersome than is used in the reports. Will I change it back? peterl ( talk) 12:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Made some updates today; still needs some further refinement. Thanks for the input. peterl ( talk) 12:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
I agree with many of the above comments that this page lacks some information on the life-cycle of the spider. I also noticed there was not much information on the behavior aspect of the spider. I'm curious about the life-span and lifecycle of the spider especially. How does the spider change over the course of its life? In context with the venomous quality of the spider, I wonder if the spiders are venomous for their entire life or only when they mature to a certain age? I'm also curious who their usual prey are- and again does it change over the course of its life? 17lchang ( talk) 02:04, 6 October 2020 (UTC) 17lchang
I'm a bit confused by this news story: [5] [6] It says that the female was 8cm from foot to foot, while the 2016 specimen was male and with a leg span of 10cm.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
If one just reads the article (withoul looking up the links), one may think that δ-atracotoxin ist different from robustoxin.
Because of this there is need to tell the reader that these are synonyms.
On the other hand, there is no need for telling that δ-atracotoxin is the same as delta-atracotoxin as δ should be commonly known as delta.
User:lanman may consider this and restore this synonymy in any way he/she likes, but ist should be made clear anyway!
Kind regards -- Ernsts ( talk) 14:04, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
ok so I've read the entire article and read all the chats (I don't know when the chats where done) but some of you are saying that they haven't had any cases. reread the article it says in the end of the first paragraph in treatment it says "The most vials used to treat a bite is 12. The patient was a 10-year-old boy who was bitten in February 2017 by a male Sydney funnel-web that was hiding in a shoe" emphasis on 2017 so please before saying that there haven't been any cases there have been. Read the facts man ( talk) 02:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
This is in the news. Hercules is described as the largest specimen ever collected from the public, measuring 7.9 centimetres from foot to foot. This is a puzzle, because in 2016 the Australia Reptile Park said that Big Boy with a leg span of 10 centimetres was the largest specimen that they had seen. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
This article is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party)) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
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Is there anyone who knows enough to make this section not look so much like a warning label? 75.135.77.154 ( talk) 04:03, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I can't find a lot of internet information about it but there have been reports of these arachnoids being found as far south as Wodonga. If this phenomenon is not on the web then such valuable information faces exclusion from Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.74.131.197 ( talk) 13:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
It's rumored that Peter Jackson has a particular loathing for these spiders, and based his design for Shelob around them. Frankly, I'm not surprised.
Most of this article is about how dangerous the spider is. How about some more content about what it eats, what its enemies are, where it lays its eggs, whether it broods its young or lets them fend their own way, things like that? The Sanity Inspector ( talk) 21:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
-Because none have lived to tell the tale..
I removed http://www DOT aroundglobe DOT net/2010/08/has-one-of-worlds-deadliest-spiders.html as when I visited that page it tried to download malware on to my PC. This was the story about the funnel-web found in Gloucester.
The main entry for spiders on wikipedia under spider bites says the funnel web spider does not deliver much venom when it bites. This page says it often delivers a full dose. Is their a reason the two seem to conflict? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.133.183 ( talk) 00:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Re this edit. There is a well sourced look at this question here. It admits that experts find the world's deadliest spider hard to pin down. The Guinness Book of World Records chooses the Brazilian wandering spider, but the Black widow and Brown recluse spider are also contenders in terms of risk of serious injury. The main point with the Sydney funnel-web spider is that humans are advised not to approach it because of the likelihood of an aggressive response, but in terms of the likelihood of dying from a bite, it may not be the world's deadliest spider.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
My old house just north of Preston was infested with these horrid things. Can somebody capable please investigate this for the purpose of the page and my own comfort? Alterior motive: I found this an interesting tidbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.203.63 ( talk) 21:35, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
The media is currently in a tizzy over this incident, which it has been suggested might be the work of Sydney funnel webs. The problem is that this is pure media speculation at the moment, and Sydney funnel webs are not reliably known to live outside Australia, despite numerous claims in the past. This is a puzzle, it will be interesting to see what species of spider has caused this media coverage.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Olá eu estou curioso sobre essa especie de aracnídeo, visto que capturei um exemplar, na minha opinião idêntico ao descrito nas imagens que vi na internet teria a possibilidade de esse aracnídeo viver no Brasil também estou preocupado com isso pois como sou amante de animais e insetos acabei por libertar a aranha perto da minha vizinhança a mais ou menos 1 ano, encontrei-a em minhas dependências o que me deixou mais assustado ao pesquisar sobre ela tenho algumas características acabei por observar nessa aranha que capturei. Ela vive em buracos no chão, tocas, onde o terreno é arenoso e um pouco úmido e ataca os que entram em seus domínios com muita velocidade e ferocidade, tem as patas e o cefalotórax como uma carapaça, com uma tonalidade marrom, quelíceras e garras muito avantajadas com tonalidade mais escura, as garras sendo pretas, somente o abdome não era protegido pela carapaça e tinha tom acinzentado escuro e ela apresentava poucos pelos pelo corpo exceto no abdome onde a quantidade era levemente maior, quando não estava para atacar algo mantinha seus movimentos geralmente lentos e calmo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.76.63 ( talk) 04:08, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
The photo on the right is in the article and both the caption and the original upload [2] say that the spider is male. I'm fairly sure that this is wrong, based on the photo on the left, as the male has a much smaller body. Only the female has a large plum shaped body. This can also be seen in this BBC News story. "Big Boy" is a male, while the spider being milked in the video is female.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Sydney funnel-web spider/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Too many exclamation marks, all of them unnecessary. The article seems to be the projection of a deep desire to convince the reader of the spider's danger to humans, by using disproportionate alarm signals. I doubt the creature is as significant a danger to human beings as is alleged in the article. |
Last edited at 08:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 07:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
If it is true that other mammals are immune to the spider's venom, which ones? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.186.6.124 ( talk) 22:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
This is in the news today, and reports "Horses killed more people in Australia in recent years than all venomous animals combined." During the period 2000 to 2013, horses caused 74 deaths, while 25 humans died from bee stings. There were zero deaths from spider bites, and there haven't been any at all since an effective antivenom for funnel-web bites was introduced in 1981. I wasn't sure if this was suitable for the article, but it shows that the "world's deadliest spider" tag often attached to the Sydney funnel-web spider is now a myth.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Re this edit: Guinness World Records gives the most venomous spider title to the male Sydney funnel-web spider here, but it has also given the title to the Brazilian wandering spider. [3] It is hard to give a Median lethal dose, but this source says that 0.2 mg/kg is a lethal dose for monkeys. It isn't in dispute that people have died from funnel-web bites, but terms like most deadly and most venomous are harder to pin down.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
The best thing I can think of is this, where we reflect what the sources say. We can't ignore the fact that it has been considered the most venomous, but use sources to clarify where it stands and highlight the disputes and limitations of research. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 20:47, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
The "Symptoms" section gives no real information about symptoms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.37.99.86 ( talk) 10:47, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
The Sydney funnel-web spider is also know locally as just "funnel web", as demonstrated in the two ELs. What's the best way to mention this in the lead paragraph? Also, (nearly) all references have been recently changed to "funnel web spider" which is more cumbersome than is used in the reports. Will I change it back? peterl ( talk) 12:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Made some updates today; still needs some further refinement. Thanks for the input. peterl ( talk) 12:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
I agree with many of the above comments that this page lacks some information on the life-cycle of the spider. I also noticed there was not much information on the behavior aspect of the spider. I'm curious about the life-span and lifecycle of the spider especially. How does the spider change over the course of its life? In context with the venomous quality of the spider, I wonder if the spiders are venomous for their entire life or only when they mature to a certain age? I'm also curious who their usual prey are- and again does it change over the course of its life? 17lchang ( talk) 02:04, 6 October 2020 (UTC) 17lchang
I'm a bit confused by this news story: [5] [6] It says that the female was 8cm from foot to foot, while the 2016 specimen was male and with a leg span of 10cm.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
If one just reads the article (withoul looking up the links), one may think that δ-atracotoxin ist different from robustoxin.
Because of this there is need to tell the reader that these are synonyms.
On the other hand, there is no need for telling that δ-atracotoxin is the same as delta-atracotoxin as δ should be commonly known as delta.
User:lanman may consider this and restore this synonymy in any way he/she likes, but ist should be made clear anyway!
Kind regards -- Ernsts ( talk) 14:04, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
ok so I've read the entire article and read all the chats (I don't know when the chats where done) but some of you are saying that they haven't had any cases. reread the article it says in the end of the first paragraph in treatment it says "The most vials used to treat a bite is 12. The patient was a 10-year-old boy who was bitten in February 2017 by a male Sydney funnel-web that was hiding in a shoe" emphasis on 2017 so please before saying that there haven't been any cases there have been. Read the facts man ( talk) 02:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
This is in the news. Hercules is described as the largest specimen ever collected from the public, measuring 7.9 centimetres from foot to foot. This is a puzzle, because in 2016 the Australia Reptile Park said that Big Boy with a leg span of 10 centimetres was the largest specimen that they had seen. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)