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Peter Rice was THE engineer on site at the Opera House for most of the trouble-shooting period. He has his own well documented[ Wikipedia Page] .
It is strange that he gets absolutely no mention on this page.
I have refrained from inserting any such edit given the level of dispute that is evident...but it still seems unfair/incomplete.
Artied ( talk) 16:56, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
The intro is written in the style of a 12-year old. It has eleven sentences and seven start with "it." It seems like a list of unrelated facts. It is unaided by a sentence structure that could actually like facts together. It could use help. :) 842U ( talk) 13:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Guardian Utzon Comment Any good? -- Clem Rutter ( talk) 09:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
The issue of whether the venue names can be either bolded or italicised is currently being discussed. I do not believe that the MoS supports italicising names of places or venues but I am willing to be shown otherwise. If there is something in the MoS then please provide it here so that it can be discussed and decided upon by consensus. Afterwriting ( talk) 13:15, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Do not use boldface for emphasis in article text; instead use template. Also, punctuation shouldn't be inside the markup. I forget where the MOS says this but it's something that we went through at WT:TV because editors were bolding punctuation inside markup. I agree with Machina.sapiens here when he says{{ em}}
, or the underlying<em>...</em>
HTML markup, which render as italics in most browsers.
On re-reading the MOS, I see that WP doesn't really want bolding used in this kind of situation, but I think it helps readability to have the venue names picked out in some way - so what would you think of italicising the venue names instead?Italics are what the MOS says. Wher in the MOS do you claim that it says bolding is appropriate? -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 13:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Do not make pseudo-headings using bold or semicolon markup. Screen readers and other machines can only use correctly formatted headings.-- AussieLegend ( ✉) 09:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there any reason this fairly 'notable' incident on 18 March 2003 isn't mentioned? Too trivial? image, [2], [3]. 220 of Borg 12:12, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
The entire section is based on only two sources, of which one ("ABC, The Opera House Project, online") would appear to be nonexistent. Given the contentious nature of the subject this does not seem appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.248.189.133 ( talk) 16:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Can anything be said about its performance as an opera house? I have heard that the acoustics are totally dreadful. Does anybody know about this aspect? Seadowns ( talk) 17:02, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning the inclusion of the Opera House as one of 116 images featured on the Voyager Golden Record??? I'd argue this is worth including. SecretName101 ( talk) 03:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Sadly, this article is limited in readability because of the usage of several rare words or uncommon forms of words. For instance talking about 'the surrounds of the structure' instead of allowing it to be changed to 'the surroundings' inhibits flow and causes most readers to stop and try to understand what they just read. If this is the goal of the article, that is an issue. If not, why not allow the editing of the article for grammatical flow instead of reverting back to difficult or improper grammar and punctuation? I am simply posting this here as a reference and a challenge to make Wikipedia better and not a wall to 'leave your mark on'. I will not be monitoring this page as the article will either be improved by this challenge or it won't be and the article will remain flawed. The choice is up to you, CrowdSource World. DoulosBen ( talk) 19:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
What type of windows did the opera house have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.250.26.164 ( talk) 20:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
This article outlines some interesting details about the car park structure that explains how unique it is. This youtube video (which is unlikely to be a reliable source) claims it is the world's deepest basement. I don't know where in the article this information fits due to the section headings. - Shiftchange ( talk) 05:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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I don't know what happened to my edit summary that I wrote when undoing Merbabu's removal of the content I'd added about the Message Sticks and Homeground Festivals. It took me some time to put the content together, which I went looking for after stumbling into mentions of the Message Sticks festival all over the place. At this point this article is its most logical home as it was the Opera House itself which staged the events, and I do not have the time at the moment to create a separate article with all of the relevant information that could go into it. However (as noted in editors' comments), there are several redirects pointing to the section, used in a number of articles across Wikipedia, which can be reassigned when a separate article is created. So please do not remove this section unless you are creating a separate article for the content. Message Sticks was an important event in the history of Indigenous cinema. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 08:24, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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"Sydney Opera House".
New South Wales State Heritage Register.
Department of Planning & Environment. H01685. Retrieved 3 September 2017.
Text is licensed by State of New South Wales (Department of Planning and Environment) under
CC-BY 4.0
licence., seems to be referring to the same thing as this, under Attribution: This Wikipedia article contains material from
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=5054880 Sydney Opera House, listed on the "New South Wales State Heritage Register" published by the Government of New South Wales under
CC-BY 3.0 AU licence (accessed on 3 September 2017).
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Peter Rice was THE engineer on site at the Opera House for most of the trouble-shooting period. He has his own well documented[ Wikipedia Page] .
It is strange that he gets absolutely no mention on this page.
I have refrained from inserting any such edit given the level of dispute that is evident...but it still seems unfair/incomplete.
Artied ( talk) 16:56, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
The intro is written in the style of a 12-year old. It has eleven sentences and seven start with "it." It seems like a list of unrelated facts. It is unaided by a sentence structure that could actually like facts together. It could use help. :) 842U ( talk) 13:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Guardian Utzon Comment Any good? -- Clem Rutter ( talk) 09:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
The issue of whether the venue names can be either bolded or italicised is currently being discussed. I do not believe that the MoS supports italicising names of places or venues but I am willing to be shown otherwise. If there is something in the MoS then please provide it here so that it can be discussed and decided upon by consensus. Afterwriting ( talk) 13:15, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Do not use boldface for emphasis in article text; instead use template. Also, punctuation shouldn't be inside the markup. I forget where the MOS says this but it's something that we went through at WT:TV because editors were bolding punctuation inside markup. I agree with Machina.sapiens here when he says{{ em}}
, or the underlying<em>...</em>
HTML markup, which render as italics in most browsers.
On re-reading the MOS, I see that WP doesn't really want bolding used in this kind of situation, but I think it helps readability to have the venue names picked out in some way - so what would you think of italicising the venue names instead?Italics are what the MOS says. Wher in the MOS do you claim that it says bolding is appropriate? -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 13:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Do not make pseudo-headings using bold or semicolon markup. Screen readers and other machines can only use correctly formatted headings.-- AussieLegend ( ✉) 09:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Is there any reason this fairly 'notable' incident on 18 March 2003 isn't mentioned? Too trivial? image, [2], [3]. 220 of Borg 12:12, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
The entire section is based on only two sources, of which one ("ABC, The Opera House Project, online") would appear to be nonexistent. Given the contentious nature of the subject this does not seem appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.248.189.133 ( talk) 16:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Can anything be said about its performance as an opera house? I have heard that the acoustics are totally dreadful. Does anybody know about this aspect? Seadowns ( talk) 17:02, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning the inclusion of the Opera House as one of 116 images featured on the Voyager Golden Record??? I'd argue this is worth including. SecretName101 ( talk) 03:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Sadly, this article is limited in readability because of the usage of several rare words or uncommon forms of words. For instance talking about 'the surrounds of the structure' instead of allowing it to be changed to 'the surroundings' inhibits flow and causes most readers to stop and try to understand what they just read. If this is the goal of the article, that is an issue. If not, why not allow the editing of the article for grammatical flow instead of reverting back to difficult or improper grammar and punctuation? I am simply posting this here as a reference and a challenge to make Wikipedia better and not a wall to 'leave your mark on'. I will not be monitoring this page as the article will either be improved by this challenge or it won't be and the article will remain flawed. The choice is up to you, CrowdSource World. DoulosBen ( talk) 19:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
What type of windows did the opera house have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.250.26.164 ( talk) 20:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
This article outlines some interesting details about the car park structure that explains how unique it is. This youtube video (which is unlikely to be a reliable source) claims it is the world's deepest basement. I don't know where in the article this information fits due to the section headings. - Shiftchange ( talk) 05:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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I don't know what happened to my edit summary that I wrote when undoing Merbabu's removal of the content I'd added about the Message Sticks and Homeground Festivals. It took me some time to put the content together, which I went looking for after stumbling into mentions of the Message Sticks festival all over the place. At this point this article is its most logical home as it was the Opera House itself which staged the events, and I do not have the time at the moment to create a separate article with all of the relevant information that could go into it. However (as noted in editors' comments), there are several redirects pointing to the section, used in a number of articles across Wikipedia, which can be reassigned when a separate article is created. So please do not remove this section unless you are creating a separate article for the content. Message Sticks was an important event in the history of Indigenous cinema. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 08:24, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
RobertYe.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 10:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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AIHTNY.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 10:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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This reference
"Sydney Opera House".
New South Wales State Heritage Register.
Department of Planning & Environment. H01685. Retrieved 3 September 2017.
Text is licensed by State of New South Wales (Department of Planning and Environment) under
CC-BY 4.0
licence., seems to be referring to the same thing as this, under Attribution: This Wikipedia article contains material from
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=5054880 Sydney Opera House, listed on the "New South Wales State Heritage Register" published by the Government of New South Wales under
CC-BY 3.0 AU licence (accessed on 3 September 2017).
Davidships (
talk)
03:05, 5 January 2023 (UTC)