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I've long been wondering: Did the Swahili have another religion before Islam? Gringo300 19:02, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
How can it be claimed there are less than 400,000 Swahili people?
As far as I know most people in Zanzibar are Swahili, and there are almost 1 million people. Also most people in Mombasa (1,000,000), Tanga (250,000) and a large share of Dar es Salaam (2,500,000). If you count also sorrounding areas, the number can be in the millions, easyly.
By the way, not all Swahili people are Muslim. I met many Christians in Mombasa and Zanzibar who considered themselves to be Swahili, and became angry if I said I thought all Swahilis were Muslim. And when they were ate war, they would use drums to express their feelings. -- 81.38.172.141 21:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
It's true that swahiliphone is different of swahili culture but :
This article is article is misnamed or informations are wrong ? :fr:Vincnet
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Of course it would have been easier to merely look up the most contiguous populations who share similar languages and culture with the Swahili, a well as common origin. Of course that would be the indigenous Bantu people of Kenya and Tanzania, along with migrant groups who intermarried with the locals and now share a blood and cultural connection; people like the Shirazi.. Taharqa 16:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, this can be done and is the case like WaManyema(Manyema) people from Congo. ManyemaKasongoDescendent ( talk) 02:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
It says that Islam "will become present on the east african coast between 2012A.D. to 1999 A.d.". That just seems out of place and may need a citation to see if it is even a proposed culture theory. Caffeinator1 07:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the section on economy only mentions that "Many slaves sold in Zanzibar ended up in Brazil", when the vast majority of slaves that passed through Zanzibar ended up in the Islamic/Arab world, for obvious reasons (the Arab slave trade went on for much longer on Zanzibar and it was simply easier for Europeans/Americans to transport slaves from West Africa)? I may be paranoid here, but this seems like an example of the "only white people owned slaves" myth to me. Maitreya ( talk) 13:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The sources cited don't seem to support this statement. The article also mentions, the Swahili "sailed the East African coastline to lands as far away as Arabia...and China. This seems rather bogus to me and the sources again fail to support it. Everything I have read indicates that "Swahili sailing" was an Arab phenomenon, and if the Swahili people sailed at all they didn't leave the coastline. The same problem exists in the article Zanj. It looks like the editor just searched Google Books for sources with "Swahili" and "sailor." Dmcw127 ( talk) 01:26, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to combine the contents of the Swahili culture page with this one. It seems that all of the categories over there (arts & crafts, music, etc.) would be appropriate additions here, and it might make sense to have all of this information in one central place. Thoughts? Ninafundisha ( talk) 22:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Swahili people/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article about an important subject is very poor: none of the key book-length studies of Swahili history and ethnography is referenced, e.g. Prins, Pouwels, Allen, Middleton, Horton and Middleton, Kusimba... and this lack of reputable sources is reflected in the article's weak content. Zahir Mgeni 20:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 20:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
I am involved in a dispute over User:Khysion's insistence that the Swahili coast is in western Kenya instead of along the Indian Ocean coast. There is a lengthy discussion on his talk page, and moderators on the dispute resolution noticeboard have indicated that I need to bring this discussion to the article talk pages as well. I would like the lead paragraphs on both this page and on [[Swahili coast] to be corrected - the Swahili coast is not in western Kenya, nor along the western coast of eastern Africa at all. It's on the eastern coast, along the Indian Ocean. This seems obvious to me. Thanks. Ninafundisha ( talk) 22:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Can anybody else help me out here? Mombasa, Malindi, Lamu, etc. - all are on the Kenyan coast and all are considered part of the Swahili coast. Historically, the western side of Kenya (along Lake Victoria) is not considered part of the Swahili coast. For real. Ninafundisha ( talk) 23:25, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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All the people in the "Notable People" section are soccer/footballers. Are there no notable Swahili politicians, artists, musicians, non-soccer athletes, etc? 2605:59C8:3024:CB10:D10F:C2A4:FDD:BB0F ( talk) 03:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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I've long been wondering: Did the Swahili have another religion before Islam? Gringo300 19:02, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
How can it be claimed there are less than 400,000 Swahili people?
As far as I know most people in Zanzibar are Swahili, and there are almost 1 million people. Also most people in Mombasa (1,000,000), Tanga (250,000) and a large share of Dar es Salaam (2,500,000). If you count also sorrounding areas, the number can be in the millions, easyly.
By the way, not all Swahili people are Muslim. I met many Christians in Mombasa and Zanzibar who considered themselves to be Swahili, and became angry if I said I thought all Swahilis were Muslim. And when they were ate war, they would use drums to express their feelings. -- 81.38.172.141 21:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
It's true that swahiliphone is different of swahili culture but :
This article is article is misnamed or informations are wrong ? :fr:Vincnet
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Of course it would have been easier to merely look up the most contiguous populations who share similar languages and culture with the Swahili, a well as common origin. Of course that would be the indigenous Bantu people of Kenya and Tanzania, along with migrant groups who intermarried with the locals and now share a blood and cultural connection; people like the Shirazi.. Taharqa 16:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, this can be done and is the case like WaManyema(Manyema) people from Congo. ManyemaKasongoDescendent ( talk) 02:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
It says that Islam "will become present on the east african coast between 2012A.D. to 1999 A.d.". That just seems out of place and may need a citation to see if it is even a proposed culture theory. Caffeinator1 07:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the section on economy only mentions that "Many slaves sold in Zanzibar ended up in Brazil", when the vast majority of slaves that passed through Zanzibar ended up in the Islamic/Arab world, for obvious reasons (the Arab slave trade went on for much longer on Zanzibar and it was simply easier for Europeans/Americans to transport slaves from West Africa)? I may be paranoid here, but this seems like an example of the "only white people owned slaves" myth to me. Maitreya ( talk) 13:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The sources cited don't seem to support this statement. The article also mentions, the Swahili "sailed the East African coastline to lands as far away as Arabia...and China. This seems rather bogus to me and the sources again fail to support it. Everything I have read indicates that "Swahili sailing" was an Arab phenomenon, and if the Swahili people sailed at all they didn't leave the coastline. The same problem exists in the article Zanj. It looks like the editor just searched Google Books for sources with "Swahili" and "sailor." Dmcw127 ( talk) 01:26, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to combine the contents of the Swahili culture page with this one. It seems that all of the categories over there (arts & crafts, music, etc.) would be appropriate additions here, and it might make sense to have all of this information in one central place. Thoughts? Ninafundisha ( talk) 22:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Swahili people/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article about an important subject is very poor: none of the key book-length studies of Swahili history and ethnography is referenced, e.g. Prins, Pouwels, Allen, Middleton, Horton and Middleton, Kusimba... and this lack of reputable sources is reflected in the article's weak content. Zahir Mgeni 20:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 20:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
I am involved in a dispute over User:Khysion's insistence that the Swahili coast is in western Kenya instead of along the Indian Ocean coast. There is a lengthy discussion on his talk page, and moderators on the dispute resolution noticeboard have indicated that I need to bring this discussion to the article talk pages as well. I would like the lead paragraphs on both this page and on [[Swahili coast] to be corrected - the Swahili coast is not in western Kenya, nor along the western coast of eastern Africa at all. It's on the eastern coast, along the Indian Ocean. This seems obvious to me. Thanks. Ninafundisha ( talk) 22:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Can anybody else help me out here? Mombasa, Malindi, Lamu, etc. - all are on the Kenyan coast and all are considered part of the Swahili coast. Historically, the western side of Kenya (along Lake Victoria) is not considered part of the Swahili coast. For real. Ninafundisha ( talk) 23:25, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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All the people in the "Notable People" section are soccer/footballers. Are there no notable Swahili politicians, artists, musicians, non-soccer athletes, etc? 2605:59C8:3024:CB10:D10F:C2A4:FDD:BB0F ( talk) 03:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)