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I never saw the previous article that was deleted, but after doing a Google search on Susannah Mushatt Jones, I discovered that she was notable having received tribute for a long life from both the US House of Representatives and the Alabama House of representatives. So, I wrote a new article.-- I am One of Many ( talk) 07:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion about what constitutes encyclopedia content on longevity related biographies at Talk:Gertrude Weaver#What is appropriately encyclopedic content for longevity related biographies please comment. I am One of Many ( talk) 19:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I've changed this back to "19th century". 1800s may be used by journalists who struggle to remember whether to add or subtract one but "nineteenth century" is the normal way of referring to that century. Given that in a few years we will have to talk about the last surviving people born in the 1900s, meaning the first decade of the twentieth century, we're creating an unnecessary and confusing inconsistency if we start using this non-standard dating convention. WP:CENTURY speaks of avoiding ambiguity and WP:MOS speaks of avoiding contested terms, which this one certainly is. -- Lo2u ( T • C) 16:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
And this too from the main WP:MOS "Avoid forms such as the 1700s that could refer to 10 or 100 years"... -- Lo2u ( T • C) 17:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
I can live with this but it seems a bit clumsy. What we have now, with the information missing, seems like the worst possible situation. I still don't think it has been properly explained what is wrong with "Before 1900". I understand DerbyCounty feels I'm contradicting myself a bit but in terms of actual Wikipedia policy, it's not original research and I can't think of any other objection. -- Lo2u ( T • C) 06:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
The nineteenth century ends December 31, 1900. The 20th century begins January 1, 1901 and ends December 31,2000 the 21st century begins January 1, 2001 and ends December 31, 2000.
There is dispute between myself and one editor on whether or not the article should contain mention of what many reliable sources have thought notable enough to write news articles about, and even use in the title of those news articles. [3] If she gets coverage for eating bacon every day, that an important part of her diet, and plenty of news coverage for that, I believe it should be in there. For biographical articles, it is common to list information like this. There was never any consensus not to include things like this. There was a discussion on another talk page for someone else who lived over a hundred years, where a few people commented about content there, and the closure of that discussion saying there was no consensus on what material to trim. [4] Those in the discussion did say details about their health and diet should be mentioned though. We have a section called "Health, diet and lifestyle" in the article. Diet would include her eating bacon every day, obviously. Dream Focus 11:45, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
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Is this notable enough to tack on? Silenceisgod ( talk) 03:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Once their dead, they can't be brought back to life, so should people be removed from Wikipedia articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.31.29.4 ( talk) 03:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I noticed she could be 116 years, 310 days
or 116 years, 311 days
, because {{age in days|1899|07|06|1900|05|12}} days
is only 310 days
because
1900 wasn't a leap year as the year was divisible by 100 but not by 400, however {{age in days|2015|07|06|2016|05|12}} days
is 311 days
because
2016 was a leap year as the year was divisible by 4 but not by 100. Which one is it?
-- 2603:6011:E06:B6A0:FD62:EC15:B797:6526 ( talk) 21:32, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Susannah Mushatt Jones | |
---|---|
Born | Susannah Mushatt July 6, 1899
Lowndes County, Alabama, U.S. |
Died | (aged 116 years, 311 days) | May 12, 2016
Nationality | American |
Known for | Oldest living person (June 17, 2015 – May 12, 2016) |
Spouse |
Henry Jones
(
m. 1928;
div. 1933) |
Parent | Callie & Mary Mushatt Jones> |
Template: Date uses from what you can see from
Special:ExpandTemplates
{{date|06/17/2015|MDY}}
– {{date|05/12/2016|MDY}}
outputs as June 17, 2015
– May 12, 2016
Whereas
Template: Date table sorting uses a hidden sort key to sort the dates correctly in a table, in which you can see from
Special:ExpandTemplates
{{date table sorting|2015|06|17|format=mdy}}
– {{date table sorting|2016|05|12|format=mdy}}
outputs as <span data-sort-value="000000002015-06-17-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">June 17, 2015</span>
- <span data-sort-value="000000002016-05-12-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 12, 2016</span>
--
98.31.29.4 (
talk) 20:02, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
According to "Archicentenarians Wiki"., there could've been an identity swap that it was her sister Angela Morano died on 15 April 2017 at 108, whereas Emma died on 2 January 2011 at 111 the day that Kane Tanaka turned 108, if this were to be true, then Susannah Mushatt Jones would've been the last validated person born in the 1800s. Can we check to see if there is an identity swap?, Lucy Hannah was automatically invalidated when that Exceptional Lifespans book came out on 10 December 2020.
We had an example like this with Jeanne Calment where Yyonne Calment stole her mother's identity, meaning it was actually Yyonne Calment who died on 4 August 1997 instead of Jeanne, and the real Jeanne Calment died at 58 on 19 January 1934
Person | Date of Birth | Date of Death | Age |
---|---|---|---|
Jeanne Calment | 21 February 1875 | 19 January 1934 | 58 years, 332 days |
Yyonne Calment | 19 January 1898 | 4 August 1997 | 99 years, 197 days |
And if that were to be the case there, then Kane Tanaka would've been the all-time recordholder who barely surpassed Sarah Knauss.
I'm just worried that Emma Morano might had an identity swap with her sister Angela, can we just verify it. If it were to be swapped then Susannah Mushatt Jones would've been the last validated surviving person born in the 1800s. 2603:6011:E00:4C41:0:0:0:1009 ( talk) 01:09, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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I never saw the previous article that was deleted, but after doing a Google search on Susannah Mushatt Jones, I discovered that she was notable having received tribute for a long life from both the US House of Representatives and the Alabama House of representatives. So, I wrote a new article.-- I am One of Many ( talk) 07:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion about what constitutes encyclopedia content on longevity related biographies at Talk:Gertrude Weaver#What is appropriately encyclopedic content for longevity related biographies please comment. I am One of Many ( talk) 19:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I've changed this back to "19th century". 1800s may be used by journalists who struggle to remember whether to add or subtract one but "nineteenth century" is the normal way of referring to that century. Given that in a few years we will have to talk about the last surviving people born in the 1900s, meaning the first decade of the twentieth century, we're creating an unnecessary and confusing inconsistency if we start using this non-standard dating convention. WP:CENTURY speaks of avoiding ambiguity and WP:MOS speaks of avoiding contested terms, which this one certainly is. -- Lo2u ( T • C) 16:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
And this too from the main WP:MOS "Avoid forms such as the 1700s that could refer to 10 or 100 years"... -- Lo2u ( T • C) 17:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
I can live with this but it seems a bit clumsy. What we have now, with the information missing, seems like the worst possible situation. I still don't think it has been properly explained what is wrong with "Before 1900". I understand DerbyCounty feels I'm contradicting myself a bit but in terms of actual Wikipedia policy, it's not original research and I can't think of any other objection. -- Lo2u ( T • C) 06:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
The nineteenth century ends December 31, 1900. The 20th century begins January 1, 1901 and ends December 31,2000 the 21st century begins January 1, 2001 and ends December 31, 2000.
There is dispute between myself and one editor on whether or not the article should contain mention of what many reliable sources have thought notable enough to write news articles about, and even use in the title of those news articles. [3] If she gets coverage for eating bacon every day, that an important part of her diet, and plenty of news coverage for that, I believe it should be in there. For biographical articles, it is common to list information like this. There was never any consensus not to include things like this. There was a discussion on another talk page for someone else who lived over a hundred years, where a few people commented about content there, and the closure of that discussion saying there was no consensus on what material to trim. [4] Those in the discussion did say details about their health and diet should be mentioned though. We have a section called "Health, diet and lifestyle" in the article. Diet would include her eating bacon every day, obviously. Dream Focus 11:45, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
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Is this notable enough to tack on? Silenceisgod ( talk) 03:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Once their dead, they can't be brought back to life, so should people be removed from Wikipedia articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.31.29.4 ( talk) 03:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I noticed she could be 116 years, 310 days
or 116 years, 311 days
, because {{age in days|1899|07|06|1900|05|12}} days
is only 310 days
because
1900 wasn't a leap year as the year was divisible by 100 but not by 400, however {{age in days|2015|07|06|2016|05|12}} days
is 311 days
because
2016 was a leap year as the year was divisible by 4 but not by 100. Which one is it?
-- 2603:6011:E06:B6A0:FD62:EC15:B797:6526 ( talk) 21:32, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Susannah Mushatt Jones | |
---|---|
Born | Susannah Mushatt July 6, 1899
Lowndes County, Alabama, U.S. |
Died | (aged 116 years, 311 days) | May 12, 2016
Nationality | American |
Known for | Oldest living person (June 17, 2015 – May 12, 2016) |
Spouse |
Henry Jones
(
m. 1928;
div. 1933) |
Parent | Callie & Mary Mushatt Jones> |
Template: Date uses from what you can see from
Special:ExpandTemplates
{{date|06/17/2015|MDY}}
– {{date|05/12/2016|MDY}}
outputs as June 17, 2015
– May 12, 2016
Whereas
Template: Date table sorting uses a hidden sort key to sort the dates correctly in a table, in which you can see from
Special:ExpandTemplates
{{date table sorting|2015|06|17|format=mdy}}
– {{date table sorting|2016|05|12|format=mdy}}
outputs as <span data-sort-value="000000002015-06-17-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">June 17, 2015</span>
- <span data-sort-value="000000002016-05-12-0000" style="white-space:nowrap">May 12, 2016</span>
--
98.31.29.4 (
talk) 20:02, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
According to "Archicentenarians Wiki"., there could've been an identity swap that it was her sister Angela Morano died on 15 April 2017 at 108, whereas Emma died on 2 January 2011 at 111 the day that Kane Tanaka turned 108, if this were to be true, then Susannah Mushatt Jones would've been the last validated person born in the 1800s. Can we check to see if there is an identity swap?, Lucy Hannah was automatically invalidated when that Exceptional Lifespans book came out on 10 December 2020.
We had an example like this with Jeanne Calment where Yyonne Calment stole her mother's identity, meaning it was actually Yyonne Calment who died on 4 August 1997 instead of Jeanne, and the real Jeanne Calment died at 58 on 19 January 1934
Person | Date of Birth | Date of Death | Age |
---|---|---|---|
Jeanne Calment | 21 February 1875 | 19 January 1934 | 58 years, 332 days |
Yyonne Calment | 19 January 1898 | 4 August 1997 | 99 years, 197 days |
And if that were to be the case there, then Kane Tanaka would've been the all-time recordholder who barely surpassed Sarah Knauss.
I'm just worried that Emma Morano might had an identity swap with her sister Angela, can we just verify it. If it were to be swapped then Susannah Mushatt Jones would've been the last validated surviving person born in the 1800s. 2603:6011:E00:4C41:0:0:0:1009 ( talk) 01:09, 28 December 2022 (UTC)