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This article has been rewritten with appropriate sources. I am removing the third party tag. Should any additional citations be needed they can be found by doing a Google Scholar search for Susan Blackmore and going to any of the many journal articles citing her books and articles. The references that remain to her own work are to support the direct quotations and have been referenced with third party sources that cite the articles quoted. If an editor has the time her work in Memetics could be expanded and if truly necessary the direct quotes could be converted to prose based on third party sources. Her work in parapsychology and the paranormal could also be further detailed. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 11:11, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I reverted the removal of the following:
"A large study of paranormal experiences that Blackmore conducted from 1996 to 1999 revealed most them "fell under the definition of sleep paralysis.""
The source (Rowlands, Barbara (17 November 2001). "In the dead of the night". The Observer. London. Retrieved 24 July 2013.) has this:
"Dr Susan Blackmore, a research psychologist and visiting lecturer at the University of the West of England, carried out a large study between 1996 and 1999 of 'paranormal' experiences, most of which clearly fell within the definition of sleep paralysis."
The editor who removed it stated in their edit summary that it did not follow from the source. Clearly this sentence follows the source very directly. Regarding the focus of the study it is my understanding that the study was focused on Out of Body experiences not sleep paralysis. If there is a RS that states this study was of sleep paralysis please cite and consider including in the article as appropriate. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 05:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I propose the following sentence for inclusion in the article:
In a article in The Observer on sleep paralysis Barbara Rowland wrote that Blackmore, “carried out a large study between 1996 and 1999 of 'paranormal' experiences, most of which clearly fell within the definition of sleep paralysis.”
reference
Rowlands, Barbara (17 November 2001). "In the dead of the night". The Observer. London. Retrieved 24 July 2013.
Justification for inclusion: This is factual and verifiable. It is notable for publication in a major newspaper. It has encyclopedic value as a specific example of the content of the article.
Response to criticism: This “follows” the source directly it is a quotation. If there is content in the article that provides context or clarification, suggest it's inclusion. An editor's opinion of the implications of a writers statement (what it "suggests") must be supported by a reliable source. The webpage pointed to ( Perrott-Warrick Project) clearly states that the study was funded by a grant (administered by Trinity College, Cambridge) that is "absolutely for the purpose of psychical research". Criticism of the methodology of the research methods should be backed up by a more reliable source than this webpage, there are 19 conference papers and 8 published articles listed on the webpage. These papers and articles (or other articles which cite them) would provide verifiable information on this study. However it is a fact that Rowland wrote precisely what is quoted and it was published. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 13:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
As there has been no objection I will add the proposed text and reference. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 05:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Both photos in the main body of the article make references to something called TAM. There's no reference to TAM in the body of the article, nor does to photo caption provide a link or explain what that apparent acronym stands for. I assume it's some sort of conference, but surely there's a better way to reference it.
Also, the second photo (the one of the autographed book) doesn't seem to be relevant to anything in the body of the article. There is no explanation of who Susan Gerbic is, nor does the name link to anything. It's also not clear what "fakers" Blackmore is referring to, and the suggestion that she won't fight the fakers (whatever that means) seems to be at odds with the description of her as a skeptic. Webster100 ( talk) 19:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 17:04, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
After hearing Blackmore lecture recently, I propose changing the beginning of the first sentence of "Personal life" should be changed from Blackmore is spiritual to Blackmore is an advocate of secular spirituality, as the latter better describes her secular humanist worldview and does not imply a relationship with the divine. Poorlyglot ( talk) 02:45, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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This article has been rewritten with appropriate sources. I am removing the third party tag. Should any additional citations be needed they can be found by doing a Google Scholar search for Susan Blackmore and going to any of the many journal articles citing her books and articles. The references that remain to her own work are to support the direct quotations and have been referenced with third party sources that cite the articles quoted. If an editor has the time her work in Memetics could be expanded and if truly necessary the direct quotes could be converted to prose based on third party sources. Her work in parapsychology and the paranormal could also be further detailed. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 11:11, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I reverted the removal of the following:
"A large study of paranormal experiences that Blackmore conducted from 1996 to 1999 revealed most them "fell under the definition of sleep paralysis.""
The source (Rowlands, Barbara (17 November 2001). "In the dead of the night". The Observer. London. Retrieved 24 July 2013.) has this:
"Dr Susan Blackmore, a research psychologist and visiting lecturer at the University of the West of England, carried out a large study between 1996 and 1999 of 'paranormal' experiences, most of which clearly fell within the definition of sleep paralysis."
The editor who removed it stated in their edit summary that it did not follow from the source. Clearly this sentence follows the source very directly. Regarding the focus of the study it is my understanding that the study was focused on Out of Body experiences not sleep paralysis. If there is a RS that states this study was of sleep paralysis please cite and consider including in the article as appropriate. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 05:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I propose the following sentence for inclusion in the article:
In a article in The Observer on sleep paralysis Barbara Rowland wrote that Blackmore, “carried out a large study between 1996 and 1999 of 'paranormal' experiences, most of which clearly fell within the definition of sleep paralysis.”
reference
Rowlands, Barbara (17 November 2001). "In the dead of the night". The Observer. London. Retrieved 24 July 2013.
Justification for inclusion: This is factual and verifiable. It is notable for publication in a major newspaper. It has encyclopedic value as a specific example of the content of the article.
Response to criticism: This “follows” the source directly it is a quotation. If there is content in the article that provides context or clarification, suggest it's inclusion. An editor's opinion of the implications of a writers statement (what it "suggests") must be supported by a reliable source. The webpage pointed to ( Perrott-Warrick Project) clearly states that the study was funded by a grant (administered by Trinity College, Cambridge) that is "absolutely for the purpose of psychical research". Criticism of the methodology of the research methods should be backed up by a more reliable source than this webpage, there are 19 conference papers and 8 published articles listed on the webpage. These papers and articles (or other articles which cite them) would provide verifiable information on this study. However it is a fact that Rowland wrote precisely what is quoted and it was published. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 13:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
As there has been no objection I will add the proposed text and reference. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 05:20, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Both photos in the main body of the article make references to something called TAM. There's no reference to TAM in the body of the article, nor does to photo caption provide a link or explain what that apparent acronym stands for. I assume it's some sort of conference, but surely there's a better way to reference it.
Also, the second photo (the one of the autographed book) doesn't seem to be relevant to anything in the body of the article. There is no explanation of who Susan Gerbic is, nor does the name link to anything. It's also not clear what "fakers" Blackmore is referring to, and the suggestion that she won't fight the fakers (whatever that means) seems to be at odds with the description of her as a skeptic. Webster100 ( talk) 19:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 17:04, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
After hearing Blackmore lecture recently, I propose changing the beginning of the first sentence of "Personal life" should be changed from Blackmore is spiritual to Blackmore is an advocate of secular spirituality, as the latter better describes her secular humanist worldview and does not imply a relationship with the divine. Poorlyglot ( talk) 02:45, 30 October 2018 (UTC)