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Hi. The article definitely requires some work on neutrality. See
WP:NPOV. The sentences like As complex as her ideas are for her sculptures, her multifarious technical process is equally as complicated
will get you stuck in
WP:PROMO,
WP:ADVERT jail. And even get some eyebrows raised for
WP:AUTO or
WP:COI. Even this reads like something someone would say when introducing themself: She is a sculptor, a teacher, and a student of Jungian psychology.
Try and dial down on things she's said about herself and write about things others have said about her. That's AFC 101.
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I reordered the Style and technique section, and removed the critic's quote. For LB, this is not autobiography or COI. I asked her to undertake creating the article because I know Susan Aaron-Taylor (hence my not creating the article and my User page statement of COI). LB does not know SAT, nor communicated with her. SAT is a regionally known sculptor who has had solo gallery shows dating back decades. Her works sell for thousands of dollars. In my opinion there is enough content and citations in the draft for it to go to AfC. David notMD ( talk) 11:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
In my opinion putting that content into the lede increases the risk of the article being declined. I do feel the lede should include the mention of teaching career. Content in the lede is SUPPOSED to be repeated with additional information in the body of the article. Stating that she had a long career teaching at the college level does not contribute to notability in and of itself, but it does contribute to image of SAT as a person with a career in the arts versus a sculptor at the hobby level. Given the Cranbrook Academy Museum website does not list SAT as an artist with work at the museum, I strongly recommend not having such a claim. What the artist says about herself on her website is not considered a reliable source. David notMD ( talk) 18:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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Theroadislong Could you kindly help me to merge the wiki projects on the talk page and delete the duplicates. I tried but am unsure how to do it and did not want to inadvertently remove your start page and AfC approval entries. Thank you!! LorriBrown ( talk) 23:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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I know Suan Aaron-Taylor personally, as she and I attend the same artists' and poets' conference once a year. My edits to this article are intended as factual and neutral point of view. David notMD ( talk) 22:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hi. The article definitely requires some work on neutrality. See
WP:NPOV. The sentences like As complex as her ideas are for her sculptures, her multifarious technical process is equally as complicated
will get you stuck in
WP:PROMO,
WP:ADVERT jail. And even get some eyebrows raised for
WP:AUTO or
WP:COI. Even this reads like something someone would say when introducing themself: She is a sculptor, a teacher, and a student of Jungian psychology.
Try and dial down on things she's said about herself and write about things others have said about her. That's AFC 101.
Usedtobecool
✉️
✨ 21:09, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
A long conversation about getting the draft approved, not relevant since it has been, |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
I reordered the Style and technique section, and removed the critic's quote. For LB, this is not autobiography or COI. I asked her to undertake creating the article because I know Susan Aaron-Taylor (hence my not creating the article and my User page statement of COI). LB does not know SAT, nor communicated with her. SAT is a regionally known sculptor who has had solo gallery shows dating back decades. Her works sell for thousands of dollars. In my opinion there is enough content and citations in the draft for it to go to AfC. David notMD ( talk) 11:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
In my opinion putting that content into the lede increases the risk of the article being declined. I do feel the lede should include the mention of teaching career. Content in the lede is SUPPOSED to be repeated with additional information in the body of the article. Stating that she had a long career teaching at the college level does not contribute to notability in and of itself, but it does contribute to image of SAT as a person with a career in the arts versus a sculptor at the hobby level. Given the Cranbrook Academy Museum website does not list SAT as an artist with work at the museum, I strongly recommend not having such a claim. What the artist says about herself on her website is not considered a reliable source. David notMD ( talk) 18:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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Theroadislong Could you kindly help me to merge the wiki projects on the talk page and delete the duplicates. I tried but am unsure how to do it and did not want to inadvertently remove your start page and AfC approval entries. Thank you!! LorriBrown ( talk) 23:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 14:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
I know Suan Aaron-Taylor personally, as she and I attend the same artists' and poets' conference once a year. My edits to this article are intended as factual and neutral point of view. David notMD ( talk) 22:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)